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Originally Posted by Eveningsong
The ESB is 20 blocks away. Why does it matter?
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It does block or at least box in the ESB from certain angles. We were just discussing this in the One WTC thread. You can see for yourself.
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Also, that building is the least attractive built during its time. The building, in essence, is a box with setbacks. Take a look at the gorgeous Chrysler Building or 70 Pine St for inspiration which, also are far better buildings of its time.
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I agree the Chrysler building is a lot better, but the ESB is still iconic. And that's only one point from a few reasons why I didn't care for the building. The biggest reason is, like I said, I feel it has no connection with the surrounding cityscape and just seems to stand out like a giant match-stick. A few of these buildings in this same style have been built, or are being proposed. And I find them very unimaginative and jarring.
And while you're attacking my reasoning, the ESB, and even my handle here, you still haven't given me ONE reason why you like the building, which is a bit strange.
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P.S. -- True Art Deco can never be revived. Have you seen worldwide attempts at it? Let's just say that it isn't going too well no matter the effort. It's best to leave it in the past and cherish (some) buildings that remain today.
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Okay, you're obviously taking this personally, even though I said I was just asking, not challenging. Why is it so hard to discuss differences on the internet, without arguing?
This thread isn't even about art deco. Anyway, my handle is facetious, because art-deco is my favorite style and it just sounded cool. I don't really have an opinion on modern attempts at art-deco, because I haven't seen any true cases of art-deco being replicated in the modern world. Some glass bastardizations, but none that could truly be classified as traditional art-deco.
Any way, if this is how you conduct an architectural discussion of the building's merits, then please forget I asked.