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Old Posted Oct 31, 2023, 5:52 PM
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-AC are obligated to continue serving ZBF as it was one of the dozen or so cities Transport Canada put a condition on of restarting service to as part of the COVID-19 bailout. They're keeping the bare minimum of service in order to meet their obligation. ZBF the airport itself is in a pretty dire financial situation: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...nces-1.6952158
I believe the restriction no longer applies since AC already repaid. I think YYF was also one of the regional routes they suspended during pandemic and forced to restore, yet they still dropped it.

But it's likely harder for them to drop ZBF since they're the only one serving it and it may require approval. YYF still serve by 8P to YVR and WS to YYC.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2023, 7:28 AM
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my phone plan includes unlimited data in the USA but when I tried wifi at LAX all I could get directed me to pay for it. We usually try to avoid having to make any connections through USA airports, they are so aggressive and mean down there.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2023, 9:54 PM
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Flair will start flying YYZ-YQB starting the 6th of may, 3X weekly.
YEG/YHZ-YQB no longer seem to be available anymore next summer.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2023, 11:59 PM
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Flair will start flying YYZ-YQB starting the 6th of may, 3X weekly.
YEG/YHZ-YQB no longer seem to be available anymore next summer.
YVR-GDL new for summer 2024, 2x weekly
YVR-SFO now daily
YYZ-JFK gets bumped to daily next summer
YKF-YXX gets bumped to 6x weekly

YKF-YLW, YQG-YHZ, YQG-YVR, YXU-YHZ, YXU-YWG are no longer options on the drop down menu. I’m sure we’ll see more summer adds throughout the winter.
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2023, 2:37 PM
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YVR-GDL new for summer 2024, 2x weekly
YVR-SFO now daily
YYZ-JFK gets bumped to daily next summer
YKF-YXX gets bumped to 6x weekly

YKF-YLW, YQG-YHZ, YQG-YVR, YXU-YHZ, YXU-YWG are no longer options on the drop down menu. I’m sure we’ll see more summer adds throughout the winter.
What is the demand /driver for YVR - GDL?
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2023, 2:47 PM
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What is the demand /driver for YVR - GDL?
Cheap Mexican labour for the farms in the lower mainland?

We get charters every year at YQM from Mexico filled with workers for our seasonal fish plants.
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2023, 11:47 PM
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AC's CRJ retirement lasted all of 4 days. They're back flying again tomorrow. I see a YUL-YOW rotation, YOW-DCA & YOW-EWR. Didn't look beyond those but would be surprised if there's a couple more out of YUL.
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2023, 3:03 PM
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AC to start Stockholm next summer.

https://media.aircanada.com/2023-11-...ng-Summer-2024

YUL-ARN 3x weekly B788 starting June 14
YYZ-ARN 2x weekly B788 starting June 12

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YUL-CPH also increasing to 5x weekly.
YYZ-CPH increasing to daily from May to October.
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YUL-CPH also increasing to 5x weekly.
Wasn't it already 5x weekly last summer?
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2023, 3:41 PM
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Wasn't it already 5x weekly last summer?
Yes you're right. The route is starting earlier, in May. That must be what they are referring to when they say "additional capacity increases to Copenhagen". YYZ was probably daily as well last year, but it's probably daily for a few more months next summer.

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SAS is also leaving Star Alliance at some point in the near future. AC might want to get their foot in the door on the ARN route. Seems like a good add.
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Icelandair is returning to Halifax - YHZ with 3x weekly service

3x weekly on Mon, Wed, Fri
FI607 KEF-YHZ 18:35-20:30
FI606 YHZ-KEF 21:30-4:45 (+1)

After a few years break, flights to Halifax will restart, with three flights a week from May 31 until mid-October 2024.
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Old Posted Nov 3, 2023, 8:36 PM
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SAS is also leaving Star Alliance at some point in the near future. AC might want to get their foot in the door on the ARN route. Seems like a good add.
It should be called SOS at this point.
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2023, 6:16 PM
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AC to start Stockholm next summer.

https://media.aircanada.com/2023-11-...ng-Summer-2024

YUL-ARN 3x weekly B788 starting June 14
YYZ-ARN 2x weekly B788 starting June 12

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YUL-CPH also increasing to 5x weekly.
YYZ-CPH increasing to daily from May to October.
French-speaking destinations aside, that's unusual to start with more service at YUL than YYZ.

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Icelandair is returning to Halifax - YHZ with 3x weekly service

3x weekly on Mon, Wed, Fri
FI607 KEF-YHZ 18:35-20:30
FI606 YHZ-KEF 21:30-4:45 (+1)

After a few years break, flights to Halifax will restart, with three flights a week from May 31 until mid-October 2024.
Wow that's a big win for YHZ to get FI back. I see FI are also adding PIT.
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Halifax had a few wins over the past few weeks with DL returning in 2024. And American continuing their service. Plus with Icelandair returning this is amazing news for the maritimes. But I wish that the Greater Moncton Romeo Leblanc International airport is lagging behind when it comes to flight options and costs where YQM is generally more expensive to fly out than YFC with Linux, YSJ with Flair, Halifax, Portland and Bangor. The advantage I find with Halifax is they do not have to compete with the other airports in Nova Scotia where Moncton has to compete with two marginal airports that are less than two hours away.
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Old Posted Nov 3, 2023, 4:40 PM
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YHZ really is on a run, 4x a day to NYC is really impressive. Unfortunately LGA is the last airport in NA I would connect through.

If WJ had not pulled out from the east, I wonder if an ATL flight could have got going. It seems to be working for them so far elsewhere, Id take an ATL connection over anything in the NE all winter. Maybe and YOW-ATL could work too.
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YHZ really is on a run, 4x a day to NYC is really impressive. Unfortunately LGA is the last airport in NA I would connect through.

If WJ had not pulled out from the east, I wonder if an ATL flight could have got going. It seems to be working for them so far elsewhere, Id take an ATL connection over anything in the NE all winter. Maybe and YOW-ATL could work too.
IIRC, Delta operated a weekly YHZ-ATL (believe it was on Saturdays).
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Old Posted Nov 3, 2023, 7:32 PM
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IIRC, Delta operated a weekly YHZ-ATL (believe it was on Saturdays).
Yes ATL-YHZ started on the 7th of June 2007 operated with a crj900
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2023, 5:17 PM
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YYC September 2023 Stats

Domestic: 1,195,308 +15.4% [2019: 1,089,222]
Transborder: 342,910 +43.2% [2019: 295,843]
International: 187,925 +56.2% [2019: 145,761]
September 2023 Total: 1,726,143 +23.7% [2019: 1,530,826]

2023 YTD: 14,105,411 +33.22%

Be interesting to see if this pace holds if YYC could possibly surpass its 2019 numbers this year. Either way, its going to be pretty close.
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Old Posted Nov 4, 2023, 6:15 PM
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It looks like AC has isn't operating YOW-EWR at all until Jan. 8th? Is this due to the CRJ exit mentioned a few posts back?

GDL is actually a very major city in Mexico, and Vancouver has a big Mexican population many of whom are from that region, so it makes sense. Not for Flair though lol, it's an odd addition coming from them, it would be more something for AC or AM honestly. It isn't like a Phoenix or one of Flair's other sun spots, it is much more an actual city akin to Mexico City, not a resort spot at all. We tend to think of Mexico as having one major "real" city, and then a bunch of beach cities that may be large and have their own residents, but for Canadians they are very much sun getaways. I am very glad to see this add, I know many Mexican residents here will be pleased as well (and with the lower price!). But moreso, I kind of hope AC will see this and announces their own service to GDL, maybe 3 or 4 weekly (they aren't big on 2 or less frequency for non-beach destinations). Airlines tend to get competitive when someone else gets into a big market; if no one is operating it, sometimes airlines will leave it unserved thinking they aren't losing out. But all of a sudden someone else is doing it, big airlines like AC might try and edge them out. AC just started YYZ-MTY 3-4 times a week, so they obviously have secondary non-resort destinations on their radar. Who knows, I prefer AC and don't trust Flair to keep and nurture routes like this, but glad to gave it for now.

OK I know I am going to sound like a broken record, since I mentioned this on the old thread quite a bit. I am still surprised what Air Canada is doing out east. YUL had always been very popular for Francophone routes to Europe (in France, Geneva, etc.). But AC seemed very clear that YYZ was its global hub, and that's where they were going to build up. Post-covid, or maybe even before, AC seems to be snubbing YYZ in favour of YUL, it's insane the route growth they've had at YUL, and to all over (India, Africa, Europe of course). YYZ was the undisputed king for European routes other than Francophone. Now it seems they are dividing things up almost 50/50! Barcelona, Madrid, Milan, Bogota, Delhi, Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires, Cairo, Copenhagen, Stockholm, and Venice are all routes I would have thought AC would keep exclusively at YYZ, and grow as demand warranted. Yet here we are. And YYZ might be busy, but it is not THAT overcrowded that AC couldn't increase capacity there if it wanted to keep the "global hub" idea. They are not Heathrow or Schipol, if AC wanted to have all those routes at YYZ and increase frequencies, the airport could handle it. AC is levelling the international field between the two in a big way, I didn't see that coming, I thought they were really thinking to make YYZ a behemoth, but that hasn't been the case. Good for YUL, it isn't easy being a smaller airport located not far from another larger airport in the same country, the larger airport tends to reap the prize routes. But somehow AC is letting YUL take a much bigger share, I wonder if someone at YYZ pissed them off lol!

I see AC still has YVR-YQB (5x weekly) and YYC-YQB (3x weekly) scheduled for next summer on Rouge. I am surprised by this, and not sure if they will update it, but I was thinking AC would keep YVR at least on mainline like they are doing in winter. It's not like it uses a hot commodity like a 787 that would be needed for long-haul international, it's a 737 in winter. I know 5x weekly Rouge is a decent capacity boost over 3x 737, but still, using Rouge seems unnatural at YVR now lol, they went from a big presence at YVR years ago to nothing now, at all. It is this random YQB flight and that's it. Even weirder is AC keeping YYC-YQB, at 3 days at that. I cannot see any rationale for them keeping this, no inbound really on either end, and after their last cut, they went down to bare bones. It's weird to just hand over all those other major routes like LAX and FRA to others, but then keep a weird Rouge flight to Quebec.

Sorry for the long post, I went for a couple months away from the forum (not because of the forum, just personal unrelated things) and so I feel like there's a lot to say
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