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[Sky88]

I honestly would have preferred something like this. It's my personal idea not a real project... A sphere shaped casino with a 1,700 ft hotel/office tower next to it. The rest of the site schools and affordable apartments. That way I would have shut up those stupid people who don't want the casino.

[ssh]

This city is so frustrating sometimes. Most of the time actually.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Sky88

I honestly would have preferred something like this. It's my personal idea not a real project... A sphere shaped casino with a 1,700 ft hotel/office tower next to it. The rest of the site schools and affordable apartments. That way I would have shut up those stupid people who don't want the casino.

http://live.staticflickr.com/65535/5...eda3360e_o.jpg

Yes, they would have loved that giant sphere, and an even higher supertall. Just face it already, there is nothing that is going to please the NIMBYs.

[BK1985]

I would definitely like to see a MSG sphere on one of the west side piers

[ssh]

No thanks, trashy/tacky little ball.

[NYguy]

https://w42st.com/post/controversial...ssion-hearing/

City Grills Developers Over Hudson Yards Casino Plan at Western Rail Yards

by Dashiell Allen
2/20/25

Garodnick questioned why a 200-foot podium, used to house the gaming facility in the proposed project, is also featured in the alternative plan which includes an office tower, a residential tower, and a 700-room hotel.

When asked if Related had considered other designs, Rosen admitted, “Frankly, we don’t have as much specificity with that plan as you do with the proposed projects, because we’ve been working hard on … pursuing the gaming license, and that’s been our focus.”

Garodnick also asked why Related had not pursued a special permit that would allow it to build a hotel — which, he noted, could be done even if the developer had not secured an operator for the alternative plan.

“It does feel like we’re missing a little bit of the design element and the layout element in the alternative,” he said, adding that he hoped the developers would work with the planning commission in the next several weeks before it takes a final vote.

When asked by another commissioner, David Gold, about why the 2009 plan is unfeasible, Rosen repeated that it would cost $2 billion alone to construct a platform over the rail yards.

He also shared that the weight distribution of a podium, compared to the buildings in the original 2009 plan, would allow for columns with a smaller width above the train tracks below, something he said was not known when the original plan was agreed upon.

The City Planning Commission is expected to vote on Related’s proposed zoning changes at an upcoming meeting, the date of which has not been determined, a spokesperson for the Department of City Planning told W42ST. After the Planning Commission, it will be voted on by City Council, which typically defers to local members, in this case Councilman Erik Bottcher.

How do you not know by now that those 4,000 units are not for affordable housing?

Hell’s Kitchen resident and member of the W47/48th Street block association Catherine Lafferty said she doesn’t “want the city to cannibalize its existing cultural resources like the High Line.”

Instead of a casino, she suggested, “in addition to the much needed 4,000 or more affordable housing units, New York City is a cultural center on so many levels — why not offer a museum on our Hudson?”

In contrast, Kim Hoover, treasurer of the West Chelsea Block Association said her group is in favor of the proposal. “[It] will not only transform the site into a bustling, lively complex featuring a world class casino, affordable housing and additional restaurants and retail, but will also bring in additional security presence to our neighborhoods,” she said.

[NYguy]

https://www.youtube.com/live/ngDjGvP...k7OzC09l_fpMCR

[NYguy]

Some Q&A with Related from City Planning at their review session last week...

[NYguy]

Should also point out that Related has shifted to the need for the platform base, casino or not.

Originally Posted by NYguy

[ChiND]

This looks INCREDIBLE.

[NYguy]

I think there's still too much open space in this plan. But the amount of lush landscaping this project would bring to the area is more than the foolish NIMBYs who claim they want park space would get otherwise.



gravesVpelli

[The New York Lion]

Utterly spectacular.

[ajbeaver25]

The new proposal is so much better, since I prefer building volume over quantity/height. I would rather have 3 vanderbilts than 6 billionaires row buildings.

[mrnyc]

i don’t care what they do as long as it gets built out, but yeah these plans are pretty terrific.

[ChiND]

If this proposal is not selected, it would be an egregious crime that would warrant investigation by the ICC.

[Lincolnlover2005]

I finished my 3D model of Hudson Yards Phase 2

Feel free to check it out!
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/mod...-Yards-Phase-2

[NYguy]

They've already done a lot on the west side, but the railyards development needs to be completed, and this is a big opportunity to do that.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktJPfZdL-Rs

[NYguy]

They've included a webcam on this Gateway information page...



https://www.gatewayprogram.org/hudso...section-3.html

Hudson Yards Concrete Casing – Section 3
The Hudson Yards Concrete Casing – Section 3 Project will provide the vital link that connects the new Hudson River Tunnel to New York Penn Station.

This project involves extending the existing concrete casing on a diagonal alignment from 11th Avenue to 30th Street, where it will link up with the new tunnel.

HYCC-3 will be approximately 500 feet long, 60 feet wide, and 60 feet high. Its structure will consist of heavily reinforced concrete ranging from 3.5 to 10 feet thick to support future loading from the overbuild platform. A waterproofing membrane will cover its perimeter.

Sections 1 and 2 of the concrete casing were built underground in the block bordered by 10th and 11th Avenues and 30th and 33rd Streets. Construction of the first 800-foot section (between 10th and 11th Avenues) began in August 2013. The second section extended the project west another 105 feet under the 11th Avenue viaduct in Manhattan. Both sections were completed in 2018.

HYCC-3 is the final segment that will enable the new Hudson River Tunnel to connect into New York Penn Station.

From the cam...

[NYguy]

Clowns talking about the High Line again.


https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/04/...the-high-line/

Lander calls for killing Hudson Yards casino bid, saying it will hurt the High Line





By Chris Sommerfeldt
April 3, 2025

City Comptroller and mayoral candidate Brad Lander is calling on a major real estate firm to pull the plug on its bid to develop a casino on Manhattan’s west side, saying the plan would pose a burden on the High Line and fall short when it comes to affordable housing.

In a statement shared exclusively with the Daily News, Lander said the Related-Wynn plan would disrupt the High Line, the iconic 1.5-mile elevated greenway spanning through the old train yards. Lander said he’s even more concerned the latest version of the Related-Wynn plan drops the number of housing units — from 5,700 to 1,500 — that they’d have to build in the surrounding area in exchange for getting to operate the casino. Just 324 of those units would be affordable under the plan.

Somebody tell that moron that the affordable units would be the same in either plan.

In a statement, a rep for the joint Related-Wynn venture behind the casino bid suggested Lander’s complaint about a lack of housing is counterintuitive, as the units that got dropped from the plan would have been luxury apartments priced at $4,000 per square foot. Additionally, the rep said Related and Wynn have worked with local stakeholders to address complaints about disruption to the High Line, including by rotating the design of the tower in order to ensure an unobstructed view along the promenade.

“This is an economically viable plan that builds on the success of Hudson Yards — which the comptroller has previously acknowledged — and creates more than 1,500 new homes in our city, including maintaining the entirety of the original affordable housing commitment,” the rep said. “We will continue to work with local leaders to improve the plan.”

[NYguy]

https://w42st.com/post/everything-we...-hudson-yards/

“Everything We Agreed to is Gone”: West Side Residents Protest Casino Plan at Hudson Yards





by Dashiell Allen
4/8/2025

“We are demanding that our electeds stand with us in this fight, as they did 10 years ago in our victory,” said Ambur Nicosia, president of the Penn South Board — a cooperative housing development in Chelsea — on Tuesday morning.

She and other community leaders from Hell’s Kitchen and Chelsea braved the cold, blustery weather at a press conference, to stand strong against Related Companies and Wynn Resort’s push for a proposal that overhauls a 2009 plan for the undeveloped western portion of Hudson Yards (bw W31/33rd St and 11/12th Ave) that prioritized housing, in favor of a primarily commercial development, with the potential for a gaming facility.

The developer has since submitted plans that include 4,000 fewer housing units (but the same amount of affordable housing), a hotel, and a casino built on top of a podium — which requires approval through a separate state-led process.

“This was a long, hard fought battle that the community thought they had already won. So the fact that we’re standing here today is with great sadness,” Nicosia said.

Joe Restuccia, a longtime member of MCB4, was involved in negotiating the 2009 plan. “Here we are looking at the idea that everything we agreed to (in writing)… is gone,” he said on Tuesday, “and that’s why our Council Members have got to vote this down. Related Companies should have to withdraw the proposal. Let’s start again and do something that has a real housing plan.”

In defense of the proposal, Related’s Chief Operating Officer of Hudson Yards Andrew Rosen told the City Planning Commission in February, “We’re at a rare moment in time with a realistic, achievable opportunity to finish the Yards, deliver thousands of construction and permanent union jobs, green space, affordable housing and economic development in the city.

“Twenty percent of the High Line surrounds the western rail yard area, and the magic that is standing 30 feet above in the air, looking over and seeing the sweeping views of the city will be erased forever,” Van Capelle said on Tuesday.

The City Planning Commission is expected to vote on Related and Wynn’s proposal tomorrow (Wednesday), after which it would be voted on by the City Council in the coming weeks for final approval. The City Council typically defers to local members, in this case, Councilmember Erik Bottcher, who represents the West Side.

At a working session on Monday, the Department of City Planning urged the Commission to support the proposal, with slight modifications including dividing a large podium in the northern portion of its site plan into two parts with a corridor between them, and slightly lowering the podium’s height.

Restuccia said it’s likely the Commission will approve the proposal. “I think the real power lies with the City Council, and that’s who has to vote on this,” he said. “It used to be in the planning commission. Now it’s a rubber stamp commission.”

These morons. Everything of benefit to them is still there - the school, community space, open space, the affordable housing, all still there.