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[ChiND]

It will be mierda del toros, per se, if this is not built as depicted.

[mrnyc]

opposition is about as nuts as it gets -- i guess people will whine about anything.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

opposition is about as nuts as it gets -- i guess people will whine about anything.

They will. I don't even care if they would just say they don't want a casino. But saying the towers and the casino will alter the High Line experience should get people locked up. They tell you it would hurt the High Line and the neighborhood, but they can't tell you exactly how. Just say you don't want a casino, at least its honest and upfront.

[ChiND]

These must be the same morons who tried to kill the Little Island park in the Hudson because it would harm the fish. They should all move to Portland.

[BXFrank]

I hope this project gets built already with the supertalls and the affordable housing + school, really needed density in that area. That’ll be an incredible view from NJ, and a future James Bond scene on that casino would be epic lol.

[ChiND]

Originally Posted by BXFrank

I hope this project gets built already with the supertalls and the affordable housing + school, really needed density in that area. That’ll be an incredible view from NJ, and a future James Bond scene on that casino would be epic lol.

Are you the Beth Frank YouTuber? Your videos are great.

[mrnyc]

what the heckkers is the matter with these people?

its an open rail yard pit for pete’s sake.

[ChiND]

It will be a horrendous crime if the Related-Wynn proposal is not selected.

[mrnyc]

i dk about that lol, but if not the western yards would continue to languish unbuilt for sure.

[Mulan]

https://nypost.com/2024/11/25/us-new...-their-chance/

[mrnyc]

^ the gov did right. the process has been long set, let it play out. if property owners can’t figure out all their land use obstacles in two years then it wasn’t a good enough site in the first place.

[MAC123]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

^ the gov did right. the process has been long set, let it play out. if property owners can’t figure out all their land use obstacles in two years then it wasn’t a good enough site in the first place.

The gov made it way too long in the first place. It never should have taken this long.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by MAC123

The gov made it way too long in the first place. It never should have taken this long.

No, it should never have taken this long. Hochul is the only one who wanted this thing to drag out. The redundant levels of approval only serve to drag out the clock. Yet, the calendar year is about to change, and it can only be delayed so much. The City approvals are an unneccesary waste of time, as the state’s process will begin afterwards.

But you can’t scream that the state is in such desparate need of funds that congestion pricing needs to start inmediately, while pushing these cash cows down the line, and similarly sitting on a state issued rfp for one Javits site, and outright ignoring a larger one. That’s just stupid.

[mrnyc]

regardless of it being too long in the first place, they do have a process and should stick to it.

that they didn't stick to the congestion pricing process is another thing and reflects poorly on the gov as well, but in this case she is right.

also, unlike congestion pricing for which mta is in dire need of the funds, there is no rush for this casino awarding.

let them all be thoughtful about it, from the state to the bidders (meaning at best intentions of course).

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

regardless of it being too long in the first place, they do have a process and should stick to it.

And therein is the ENTIRE problem - they had a schedule, and DIDN'T stick to it. I guess you'd have to pay more attention to know that. But this should have been wrapping up already, instead we have AT LEAST another year of nonsense to go. Everyone knows it. Both houses of government in the state tried to fix it. But Hochul's strong point is her indecision.

that they didn't stick to the congestion pricing process is another thing and reflects poorly on the gov as well, but in this case she is right.

She's wrong on both fronts. Sure, congestion pricing could generate funds, but you already have a process for licensing these casinos that could have been generating funds already, WITHOUT sticking it to people already paying higher prices for everything.

The sad part is that everyone can see this but the governor.


https://nypost.com/2024/06/11/us-new...mayhem-reigns/

NY pols push casino plan to aid MTA as congestion toll mayhem reigns


By Carl Campanile and Vaughn Golden
June 11, 2024

Speeding up the selection process for the metro area’s three casino licenses could generate billions of dollars in much-needed revenue for the MTA after Gov. Kathy Hochul stalled the congestion toll, state pols say.

“We have to bring the casino deals to fruition — the MTA needs the money,” said state Assembly Racing and Wagering Committee Co-Chairman Gary Pretlow (D-Mount Vernon), who recently co-sponsored a bill to set up a faster timetable for the awarding of the licenses.

“The governor could open the bidding process right now, and that could help the MTA,” Pretlow told The Post.

Hochul created chaos last week when she suddenly put the kibosh on starting Midtown Manhattan’s new minimum $15 vehicle congestion toll June 30.

She claimed it was coming at a bad time for economically strapped drivers, while the transit agency and its supporters blasted her for pulling the rug out from under them out of nowhere — and throwing crucial mass transit projects dependent on the expected $1 billion a year in tolls into upheaval.

State pols say Hochul can clean up the mess by quickly signing the bill just passed by both the Senate and Assembly to speed up the awarding of the casino licenses.

.....“The legislation brings clarity to the process,” a casino industry source added of the bill. “The state gaming commission has been kicking the can down the road.”

[ChiND]

No proposal remotely compares to Related’s. Also, its office tower likely will fill up quickly.

[NYguy]

Meanwhile, as expected, the looneys at CB4 voted against the casino proposal...


https://nypost.com/2025/01/07/us-new...mmunity-board/

$12B casino complex in NY’s Hudson Yards rejected by community board: ‘Reeks of greed and disregard’






By Carl Campanile
Jan. 7, 2025

Community Board 4 — which represents the Hudson Yards neighborhood — voted unanimously Monday night against approving a zoning change to allow the project by Related Companies and Wynn to proceed.

Under the city’s Uniformed Land Use Procedure, the local board has a right to weigh in on the zoning change, though the vote is advisory.

.....Joshua David, co-founder of The High Line and former member of CB4, testified that the project “reeks of greed and disregard for the community.”

“A carefully planned mixed-use neighborhood is wiped out for a garish Las Vegas-style monstrosity that has no place on Manhattan’s West Side,” said David, who has lived in Chelsea for 38 years.

“If we wanted to live in Las Vegas,” he said, “we would live in Las Vegas.”

The plan features an 80-story tower overlooking the Hudson River that would house a gaming facility and hotel.

Office buildings, apartment towers and a spacious 5.6-acre park would surround the gleaming casino skyscraper.

In its letter to City Planning Director Dan Garodnick, CB4 said the project slashes about 4,000 planned residential units and the environmental impact statement showed “catastrophic traffic and air quality impacts on our neighborhoods…. This proposal simply isn’t a fit for this site.”

Friends of The High Line executive director Alan van Capelle applauded the board’s rejection of the casino complex that “would do permanent damage to the High Line experience.”

Related Companies defended the project and accused CB4 of being anti-development.

“The community board has a long track record of opposing projects that would bring opportunity to the West Side,” Related Companies said in a statement.

“While many of their ideas are not fiscally feasible to implement, we welcome feedback and elements that can make this project and neighborhood better. We are focused on moving forward with local elected officials, who have been committed to pursuing realistic plans that deliver the jobs, housing and community improvements New York needs today,” the company said.

[ChiND]

These unemployed morons always use the word “monstrosity.”

[NYCityBoy]

Casinos are coming to New York City whether we like them or not. I'd personally rather not have them but it's not up to me. I won't be gambling, but if there are entertainment and dining destinations I imagine I'll be using those at some point.

The BARREN west side of the Hudson Yards seems like as good a location as any for a casino. I also vote for Times Square for the second license. I doubt most New Yorkers will use the casino, but tourists definitely will.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by NYCityBoy

I doubt most New Yorkers will use the casino, but tourists definitely will.

Not only will New Yorkers, who travel to Las Vegas and Atlantic City to use them use them, New Yorkers also voted for them. It's why the casino in Queens is one of the top grossing casinos in the country, and it's not even a full casino. The problem, as is usually the case, is the NIMBYs are the loudest and most vocal about anything.

“A carefully planned mixed-use neighborhood is wiped out for a garish Las Vegas-style monstrosity that has no place on Manhattan’s West Side,” said David, who has lived in Chelsea for 38 years.

“If we wanted to live in Las Vegas,” he said, “we would live in Las Vegas.”

You could put all 3 casinos in Manhattan, and barely notice it. New York is not some small town, and a casino isn't going to make any neighborhood in Manhattan Las Vegas. This idiot would no doubt be among those to enter the casino for one reason or another. The state needs the revenue, and no one will be forced to enter the casinos, unlike congestion pricing where you have to pay. These casinos will bring in more money to the city and state than the congestion pricing.