Saskatoon | Baydo Towers | ??m - ??m | 25-25 Floors | U/C

[Coldrsx]

Are they making things up as they go?

I've seen a lot of shoring/excavating/forming/footings/foundations and never seen this approach.

[roryn1]

[Crisis]

^^^^ That's Interesting^^^

I assume those hollowcore slabs are permanent and not just a really heavy working deck, but who knows?

I continue to be baffled by the sequence and method of construction on this build. It hasn't been fast but it's sure been interesting.

BTW, a note to the mods: "Site Prep" should probably be removed from the title. Those slabs look to actually be above grade.

[mitchellk12]

Originally Posted by Crisis

^^^^ That's Interesting^^^

I assume those hollowcore slabs are permanent and not just a really heavy working deck, but who knows?

I continue to be baffled by the sequence and method of construction on this build. It hasn't been fast but it's sure been interesting.

BTW, a note to the mods: "Site Prep" should probably be removed from the title. Those slabs look to actually be above grade.

done

[roryn1]

I think that although it looks like they are learning a LOT, it’s key to note that long term this group will definitely be learning from these new challenges for their team - for other future projects. I find it amazing that they have this type of capital compared to our other either capital poor or unfocused developers that haven’t proceeded with projects. Call them crazy or whatever, but it’s like building the world’s tallest tower to this team - it is the most expensive condo project in Saskatchewan’s history and with that comes a lot of learning. It reminds me of the mistakes being made when engineers were building the first billion dollar canola crushing plants in the province - look at the crush market now - propelling our economy and turning Sask into a Canola Importer
it also reminds me of the HBO hit The Guilded Age - new railway investors demolishing/bankrupting older railroad investors that stayed stagnant to try and ride a duopoly industry.

The province has record Potash prices, oil is at a 7 year high, uranium regulations are getting more mellow, multi billion dollar mines, crushers, and renewable diesel energy facilities being constructed while housing availability is at a record low for the province. This is a golden time for Saskatoon - Let the new competition ensue!

[thebasketballgeek]

Originally Posted by roryn1

The province has record Potash prices, oil is at a 7 year high, uranium regulations are getting more mellow, multi billion dollar mines, crushers, and renewable diesel energy facilities being constructed while housing availability is at a record low for the province. This is a golden time for Saskatoon - Let the new competition ensue!

Can you send some of that development over to your eastern neighbours please I am very jealous of the development going on in Saskatchewan. The great thing is I think this momentum will only increase as Canada ramps up it's immigration and the prairies with much more affordable living can attract a lot of talent in the future!

[WhipperSnapper]

880 Broadway bottoms out at 3 underground levels. Was its construction as peculiar? I know they used soldier piles and wood lagging unlike the sheet piles used here.

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by roryn1

I think that although it looks like they are learning a LOT, it’s key to note that long term this group will definitely be learning from these new challenges for their team - for other future projects. I find it amazing that they have this type of capital compared to our other either capital poor or unfocused developers that haven’t proceeded with projects. Call them crazy or whatever, but it’s like building the world’s tallest tower to this team - it is the most expensive condo project in Saskatchewan’s history and with that comes a lot of learning. It reminds me of the mistakes being made when engineers were building the first billion dollar canola crushing plants in the province - look at the crush market now - propelling our economy and turning Sask into a Canola Importer
it also reminds me of the HBO hit The Guilded Age - new railway investors demolishing/bankrupting older railroad investors that stayed stagnant to try and ride a duopoly industry.

Huh? A general contractor can't be bumbling a project learning on the way. They will never get another one. This will be Baydo's last if this is what has happened here.

[roryn1]

[roryn1]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Huh? A general contractor can't be bumbling a project learning on the way. They will never get another one. This will be Baydo's last if this is what has happened here.

Here in Sask you either get insanely oddly built condo due to lack of experience, or no condo at all. To me, this still is a million times better built than my 1968 condo i’m taking the photo from that might be torn down soon lol. Maybe we’re going to be seeing condo regression here soon ha

[WhipperSnapper]

I find what's happening here peculiar. I don't know if this is the plan from the start or not. Mistakes (regardless of the learning experience) cost time and money. That's fine for Baydo when they are self financing. It's not likely to go well when they have 100 million of someone else's money on the line.

I don't understand how you can compare a 54 year old building to one that doesn't even have a parking level built yet.

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

I don't understand how you can compare a 54 year old building to one that doesn't even have a parking level built yet.

To be fair, the foundations for the Baydo Towers may be 54 years old by time it's occupied...

Sorry. Cheap shot. But that is the first thing that jumped to mind when I read the comment above.

[WhipperSnapper]

I hope I'll have things figured out by mid summer. Progress has been slow since I started paying attention however, there's new questions every time I click on the thread. I count five blow heaters in the last photo.

[roryn1]

The digging continues haha. Seems like they are having trouble with rocks.. but like come on it can’t be harder to deal with rocks here than most regions.

[Coldrsx]

I've never seen a more confusing, disorganized and random site as this.

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

I've never seen a more confusing, disorganized and random site as this.

With 61,000+ posts, that's really saying something. This one has kept us guessing from the very beginning.

[905er]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

I've never seen a more confusing, disorganized and random site as this.

well enjoy the view of the hole b/c this is probably the nicest these towers will ever look. ...not a fan of these. I really really hope I'm wrong about them.

[The S'toon Goon]

I talked to someone who was awarded a contract to do work on this site. He told me the plan is still two 25 storey buildings with the second one to be started in two years. I don't believe this is new information. They worked on the Broadway build as well and things were constantly being changed/tweaked. He essentially said they are trying new things to be as cost effective as possible. He admitted to a lot of learn as you go (fake it til you make it?) He said the end game for baydo is to step into the Vancouver market once they've knocked the kinks out of their operation.

[Coldrsx]

This project is going to be in deep, deep trouble (B.S. reference if that's his position).

[roryn1]

There’s been 2 condos for sale in my 160 unit building next door in the last month, both sold within a week. Market is tight and our other developers continue to watch on the sidelines. Downtown needs this, no matter how messy the learning curve is for this young developer.