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Old Posted Jun 14, 2013, 3:59 AM
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What blows me away is that this is already looks somewhat tall and slender at 16 floors!

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432 Park Avenue and One World Trade Center will greatly add to NYC's skyline and although neither are the best examples of architecture, they each have their pluses and I welcome their additions to the skyline.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2013, 12:51 PM
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I'm all for not counting 1WTC's mast. 432 PA will be the true tallest in our city, until 225W57th steps in.

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While a decision has yet to be made on the official height of the One World Trade Centre, the structure will continue to hold the title for tallest building in the US and the Western Hemisphere ahead of the Willis Tower in Chicago at 1,451 feet and the Trump International Hotel and Tower which stands at 1,389 feet. If the spire is recognised as an antenna, however, it will swiftly drop to third place and will slip to fourth upon the completion of 432 Park Avenue tower.
Lol, there would be an outcry of epic proportions if 1WTC's mast doesn't count but the Trump one does. Trump's roof height is 1171' btw.
     
     
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Nice update, babybackribs.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2013, 9:20 AM
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this one is at 16 floors at the moment?? thx if you know.
     
     
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16th floor is done, rebar for pillars on the 17th floor is in, and the core is 18 floors.
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Spires don't count - This will be the tallest building in NY
     
     
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Spires don't count - This will be the tallest building in NY
Whether they do or they don't, this won't be the tallest. I mean, maybe yes, for about a year or so (if you don't like spires), but that's it.

One WTC if you like spires, and 225 W. 57 if you don't.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2013, 11:54 AM
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We already know that spires do count. That last few world's tallest all have spires.



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Although I live(d) in New York, that density gets me every time.
     
     
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NYguy, you remove everyone's references to spires but your own (your original posting of this article, which started the whole thing). Please be fair and balanced®.

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Battle of the Tallest: 432 Park Avenue Vs. One World Trade Centre





By Angela Fedele
June 14, 2013
Architect Rafael Viñoly is injecting some serious height into New York’s already busy skyline with his proposed landmark 432 Park Avenue residential building, claiming it will be “the tallest structure in Manhattan.”

Located in the centre of Manhattan on leafy Park Avenue between 56th and 57th street, the landmark building will stand 1,396 feet tall, just topping the rooftop height of the One World Trade Centre building, which stands at 1,368 feet excluding its 124-metre spire.

In what was a momentous moment for New York last month, the spire of the One World Trade Centre was installed taking the building to a final height of 1,776 feet, a reference to the year of America’s independence. The tower’s spire has drawn consistent debate as to whether it should be considered in the buildings official height as site owners the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey have also claimed the title of the city’s tallest building.

Originally, the spire was intended to be housed within a radome but freestanding, it could now be considered an antenna which according to the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat is not considered in the final architectural height. While the verdict is still out on the tallest building, Viñoly is confident that 432 Park Avenue will receive the final recognition.

“To me the critical thing in every building is the possibility of changing convention,” Viñoly explained in a video about the project. “We effectively look at every project differently…one thing that really is the case of death in this business is to circumscribe yourself to one particular building type.” Viñoly said he felt a building of that height had to strike a balance between form and its actual structure.

Apartments for 432 Park Avenue went on sale in March and over a third of the 126 units were sold, totaling sales of over $1 billion in spaces priced from US$7 million to US$95 million.

The slender 432 Park Avenue tower will extend 96 stories featuring a glazed concrete steel and glass façade. It will also boast 10-by-10 foot windows, drawing in an abundance of natural light offering residents extensive views of Central Park, the Hudson and East river and all the way to New Jersey and Brooklyn. The geometrically aligned exteriors feature six components per floor, separated by a gap that also works as a wind effect mechanism to reduce the creation of the vortex.

Inside, the number of apartments per floor will be reduced from four to one on the upper levels, and natural materials including solid oak floors and Italian marble bathrooms are set to decorate the residencies. Implementing public and collaborative spaces within the tower was important to Viñoly with the building set to house a private restaurant, outdoor garden, private elevator landings, a pool, spa and fitness centre and more, with over 30,000 square feet of amenities for residents.

“When one building typology becomes the city, it’s not anymore a building typology – its something else,” explains Viñoly of the building atmosphere he’s worked to create. “…So the experience of participating in that kind of strange relationship where you have multiple layers of publicness by the level of which people connect visually at certain heights is 100% a New York experience.”

While a decision has yet to be made on the official height of the One World Trade Centre, the structure will continue to hold the title for tallest building in the US and the Western Hemisphere ahead of the Willis Tower in Chicago at 1,451 feet and the Trump International Hotel and Tower which stands at 1,389 feet. If the spire is recognised as an antenna, however, it will swiftly drop to third place and will slip to fourth upon the completion of 432 Park Avenue tower.
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I would say that that is indeed the swimming pool.


As this building starts to peek above its neighbors it will inevitably be visible from other webcams around the city. Maybe someone with knowledge of those views could start assembling a list with links. I'm sure lots of people on this forum would appreciate it. I sure would.
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Is that the swimming pool?
No. That was a floor that had the double height area on the 56th street side like several ones before it. Not the pool area.
     
     
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The geometrically aligned exteriors feature six components per floor, separated by a gap that also works as a wind effect mechanism to reduce the creation of the vortex.
This might have been misstated by the author -- I assumed that he was just talking about the big gaps in the tower every twelve floors -- but this could shed some light on why the window frames are recessed: not just for stylistic reasons, but to aid in breaking up the wind vortices.

Anyone think that might be the case, or is that just a mistake?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2013, 9:21 PM
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The top of the core is near 300' Or the 20th level of windows
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2013, 10:48 PM
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NYguy, you remove everyone's references to spires but your own (your original posting of this article, which started the whole thing). Please be fair and balanced®.
I removed what was necessary. The article isn't a reference to whether or not spires should count in building heights, and if you want to debate that, take it to the proper thread.

If I must spell it out, it is a reference to the fact that 432 Park will be taller than the Freedom Tower if the antenna is not considered a spire, which is absolutely correct. If the mast is ruled a spire, then obviously Freedom Tower's height would be greater. There is nothing to debate.
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That is not, this is.

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