Poll: should the CFL move goal posts to the end dead line as in the NFL ?

[Djeffery]

Originally Posted by cjones2451

Are you proposing using Moose antlers instead of the uprights to make it more Canadian?

Can we put different point values for which parts of the antler uprights you put the ball through?

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

How do you want me to Reword the question ? I can't ask 3 questions in one poll.

Easy. "Do you agree with the changes the CFL is implementing to the field of play"

I know, by your posting history, you are a big NFL fan, so your position does not surprise me. I've talked to many season ticket holders, and the general consensus is they really hate the changes to the field and end zone. The position of the goal posts does not bother them as much.

[Hackslack]

I’m a big CFL fan, barely follow the NFL, and I’m a fan of the changes, I’m an optimist though.

Surely the Board of Governors and owners are big fans of the CFL, and they unanimously approved the changes.

[cjones2451]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

I’m a big CFL fan, barely follow the NFL, and I’m a fan of the changes, I’m an optimist though.

Surely the Board of Governors and owners are big fans of the CFL, and they unanimously approved the changes.

Same here, been a CFL fan for 50+ years and STH for 35.

This league needs to be bold and take some risks or it will become a semi-pro league based in the prairies. We need a huge win going into the new TV contract and I think this is a factor in that (getting Prime / Netflix / SN to bid as well). Status quo was not going to do it, and the owners know this. If the Bombers and Riders supported this, there has to be a bigger plan. They have already followed up with an announcement on a new website, CFL App and Year Long Fantasy Football.

I wish the league had said this as I think people would be more understanding, but I guess they do not want assume anything on a new TV deal

[elly63]

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[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by elly63

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I only watched the first 20 seconds and turned it off when they claimed the the league leadership are “going to make the CFL an NFL junior”… stupid claim, they’re not… sorry please don’t misinterpret that again as a personal attack.

[northernlights99]

Painting the ball orange or red would be innovative. A bright Orange ball. Will be easier to see also.

and hiring professional models as cheerleaders

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

I only watched the first 20 seconds and turned it off when they claimed the the league leadership are “going to make the CFL an NFL junior”… stupid claim, they’re not… sorry please don’t misinterpret that again as a personal attack.

Why is that a stupid claim, especially as Jonny proved the claim to be legitimate. Also, 20 seconds of listening to something you don't want to hear, isn't really hearing the opposing view and allowing yourself to hear all arguments.

As I have stated many times, I think the excuses for the changes can be made legitimately, I just don't like anything else to do with the reasoning for the changes. The whole hiding the process speaks volumes.

[EnvisionSaintJohn]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

Painting the ball orange or red would be innovative. A bright Orange ball. Will be easier to see also.

and hiring professional models as the cheerleaders

I think it’s too bad the CFL/XFL merger didn’t happen… they had quite a colorful ball.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by elly63

Why is that a stupid claim, especially as Jonny proved the claim to be legitimate. Also, 20 seconds of listening to something you don't want to hear, isn't really hearing the opposing view and allowing yourself to hear all arguments.

As I have stated many times, I think the excuses for the changes can be made legitimately, I just don't like anything else to do with the reasoning for the changes. The whole hiding the process speaks volumes.

I did actually watch for a longer period of time on the second time I clicked the link. He claimed it is ridiculous to think there would be “60 more touchdowns “ with the relocation of goalpost, with his sole focus being on the relocation of the goalpost. The 60 more touchdowns won’t come from simply the relocation, rather, in combination with the shorter field and the relocation, should encourage more touchdowns.

He also just highlights the minimal number of times people have actually ran into the post, or throws actually hitting the posts, but in reality, the reason why they are minimal, is because there are less pass attempts up the middle, and the change will, again, encourage more pass attempts up the middle.

He also threw the political argument of “the changes being made in the year that the USA is threatening Canada’s sovereignty”… as if, again, it goes back to him thinking these changes are “NFL junior”. Get over yourself and your sense of pride, I’m not sure why he didn’t argue that there should be a higher Canadian ratio then, or no US players at all, if he wants to use the whole “US threatening Canadian sovereignty” argument.

And he is arguing as if the Rouge has been eliminated… it was simply modified, I think the consensos is, for the better, to not, what seems, award a point for a missed kick… instead, he focuses on game winning missed field goal rouges, rather than rouges in general that awards a missed field goal.

LOL… he tries to equate the Rouge to a home run in baseball “but I don’t see anyone complaining about the fielding team not being able to play a walk off homer to the upper deck”… is this guy serious???

He says that the #1 reason for the modified rouge is to allow more predictably, allowing more betting opportunities, making the league more money, and he goes on to say “is there anything more American than that?”… LOL, wow, teams and league want to make money?!

[northernlights99]

I set up the poll so you can't vote twice and you can't vote for both options lol.

The re positioning of the goal posts and re dimensioning the field are intertwined, one depends on the other in order for both to happen.

These proposals aren't mutually exclusive.

Stating both in the poll takes too much wording, I'm only allowed 50 characters.

I do want to change the wording on the poll, is there a Mod that can help me with this ?

Is the CFL setting itself up to fail ?

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by elly63

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Good find.

[northernlights99]

Just saying they shouldn't adopt the new placement of the posts cause " Rarely " does the ball hit the posts isn't much of an argument against.

The reason why balls aren't hitting posts is cause QBs are avoiding throwing down the middle.

With the post removed from the goal line, you open up the middle for throws.

Why did the NFL move their posts back to end line in 1974 ? Watch the first few Super Bowls, posts are on the goal line.

Explain to me what is wrong with opening up the middle for throws ? Just give one good reason.

The Poll results to me so far are Shocking, I think the CFL Head office in Toronto needs be looking at this.

[northernlights99]

Super Bowl One at the LA Coliseum, Jan 15, 1967.

Goal posts on the goal line, note they used the old H design not the current slingshot. So players had two posts to crash into.

Now do you see the idiocy of having goal posts on the goal line ?

[EpicPonyTime]

Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

I think it’s too bad the CFL/XFL merger didn’t happen… they had quite a colorful ball.

I miss those old red and black footballs. Maybe the CFL should allow footballs in the colours of the home team. That way the REDBLACKS could get some merch sales.

[northernlights99]

If the CFL wants to be innovative and different in an intelligent way, how about putting a dimpled pattern on the football.

Soccer balls are dimpled for improved aerodynamics and to aid in the ball curling. Curl kicks where the ball curls into the top corner of the net.

Golf balls are dimpled to improve flight.

Why not have a dimpled pattern on a football ?

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

Super Bowl One at the LA Coliseum, Jan 15, 1967.



Now do you see the idiocy of having goal posts on the goal line ?

No.

[EpicPonyTime]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

No.

I do, however, see the idiocy of having a short field in a stadium that’s designed for a longer one. Check out all the unsold seats in the far endzone. At least in Edmonton that’s only going to affect the luxury boxes and alumni, I guess?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by EpicPonyTime

I do, however, see the idiocy of having a short field in a stadium that’s designed for a longer one.

Regardless of what they do to the uprights (and perhaps the end zones, the field dimensions should remain unaltered. It is part of Canadian football that the field is 110 yards (100 metres).

[elly63]

I'm curious as to where all the people who voted in this poll were instead of posting in the CFL thread over the years. It might have been a more popular thread had they been posting there. Considering the AI related posts lately, the whole thing makes me suspicious.