Ignoring the (warranted) negativity and hesitation in this discussion, I am just giddy we get yet another really cool looking development proposal for the CoV. Will follow closely over the years.
As avante-garde as this is, and it is, there is a deliberate 'awkwardness' built into it, esp' the main building fronting the Burard St curve, that IMHO messes it up.
I like the massing, the height, the airiness, but (again personal pref') would prefer something less 'daring' in the angles, more disciplined, more elegant.
This is way too heavy a look for the site - why are they throwing in a bunch of wall-like buildings a-la Parq/Arc Vancouvers here? Keep that kind of density on the peninsula or closer to Broadway. We have enough walls of buildings along the water on the north side of false creek, leave some air on the south side for the sun to peek through...
This is way too heavy a look for the site - why are they throwing in a bunch of wall-like buildings a-la Parq/Arc Vancouvers here? Keep that kind of density on the peninsula or closer to Broadway. We have enough walls of buildings along the water on the north side of false creek, leave some air on the south side for the sun to peek through...
There's already a wall of buildings along the waterfront here, The brewery site is inland of them, despite what the booklet might say. The Sen̓áḵw Project is between those existing buildings and the brewery, so there will be another wall of buildings to the north of the site.
The Sen̓áḵw thing is insane, but we have no control over it, and it's somewhat removed from the existing urban realm being further north. It also has the benefit of no podiums and a very porous urbanity at grade, as opposed to this mega-block thing.
This development is ideal to create a neighbourhood retail centre. Considering how much development will come on line nearby in the next few years, it can certainly act as the kind of place where residents can stroll over to do their shopping for basic necessities, or seek out services nearby. A streetcar line connecting downtown to the Arbutus corridor via Burrard street would complete the picture.
The Sen̓áḵw development is in the final stages of agreements. I wouldn't be surprised if that started construction in 2021. This Concord project will make a great addition to the neighbourhood and definitely liven it up with a lot more foot traffic.
Concord pushing for non-industrial land use change for Molson brewery redevelopment
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In a follow up interview on Monday, Peter Webb, the senior vice-president of development for Concord Pacific, told Daily Hive Urbanized this is one of the several schemes that they considered for the property, but it is also the latest scheme — designed before the revelation and approval of Squamish First Nation’s adjacent Senakw development in late 2019.
This is far from being the final design, and future revisions will account for the compatibility of Quantum Park with Senakw. Webb said this includes a larger planning study that includes the Senakw lands to explore shared solutions of access, and conducting other studies that potentially reach Vanier Park and Kitsilano Point for a more wholistic look into the neighbourhood.
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I'm a little divided on the idea of relinquishing more industrial land without creating more industrial zones.
On one hand, industrial zones are few and far between however on the other hand I can understand how a development like this would bring thousands of jobs instead of having the land sit empty waiting for an industrial tenant. I have to wonder if other municipalities in the Metro region would be able to accommodate for additional industrial zonings?
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Molson brewery is a huge industrial parcel in a very attractive location. You'd think a lack of tenant for over a decade is a sign that dt Vancouver isn't a great fit for industrial activity. Real industries need clusters of complementary businesses to survive. Vancouver's industrial zones are for urban storage, car dealership lots, office uses disguised as industrial, and the rare legacy business that is more of a real estate holding corp while not paying taxes.
At this point, industrial zoning in Vancouver is more of a meme.
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Molson brewery is a huge industrial parcel in a very attractive location. You'd think a lack of tenant for over a decade is a sign that dt Vancouver isn't a great fit for industrial activity. Real industries need clusters of complementary businesses to survive. Vancouver's industrial zones are for urban storage, car dealership lots, office uses disguised as industrial, and the rare legacy business that is more of a real estate holding corp while not paying taxes.
At this point, industrial zoning in Vancouver is more of a meme.
It doesn't help that the city has been pretty antagonistic toward anything that might be considered traditional industrial uses.
If one was running a shop that repairs bent automobile wheels for example, perhaps calling it artisanal and adding an ampersand to your company name might get the city's seal of virtue-signaling approval.
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It doesn't help that the city has been pretty antagonistic toward anything that might be considered traditional industrial uses.
If one was running a shop that repairs bent automobile wheels for example, perhaps calling it artisanal and adding an ampersand to your company name might get the city's seal of virtue-signaling approval.
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I think this is just their package they've been in talks with the City as part of site by site developer presentations due to the Broadway Plan.
Not sure yet if the Broadway Plan aims to challenge in Employment Lands docs by both the City and Metro authority. But it does mention no net loss of industrial land.
Trying to think of a project that Concord didn't value engineer and actually executed the architectural concept....maybe the Erickson? Can't think of another.
The Daily Hive story says the Concord Rep said although it's the latest design, it predates Senakw, so the actual design will be modified to blend with Senakw (whatever that means).
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As avante-garde as this is, and it is, there is a deliberate 'awkwardness' built into it, esp' the main building fronting the Burard St curve, that IMHO messes it up.
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