Western Expresso

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

a pipeline needs to get built or we minus well shut down the tar sands

I wonder how many know that our oil that is shipped to the US is being sold at a discounted price and that Canada could be getting a lot more for oils and gas if we could send it to Asian markets.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by Tacheguy

Oh goody! Will they finally bring in that hotline for barberic cultural practises? You could volunteer to take the calls!

I hope you have daughters, and enjoy watching them having their clitorus cut off with with broken glass. You could cheer it on with pom poms!

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by Roger Strong

Take a browse through their Twitter feed. They're indistinguishable from Breitbart.



Nonsense. Both sides have their wingnut extremists. If you abandon the left - or the right - because of their wingnut extremists, then you were never even a moderate on that side to begin with. You're just telling an "I'm one of you" lie to make the rest of your claims believable.

The Twitter feed above is a firehose of anti-immigration hysteria. They tweet anti-immigrant stories from the far-right and it doesn't matter if - like the Sweden immigrant rape claims - they're fabricated by the right.



Because there are 'Some Very Fine People on Both Sides?'

Was the cologne mass rape event also fabricated? Man I feel so enlightened.

[Tacheguy]

A bunch of frightened old men trying to deal with a changing world. They do have a point though..Trudeau can be a condescending little twerp at times.

[vid]

Originally Posted by Riverman

If there were tar sands this would be true. The product is bitumen, stop the left wing bullshit please.

Bitumen is tar. By definition. I know the word "tar" makes you snowflakes melt but honestly, you can call it chocolate syrup, it will remain just as environmentally destructive and be opposed just the same.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by vid

Bitumen is tar. By definition. I know the word "tar" makes you snowflakes melt but honestly, you can call it chocolate syrup, it will remain just as environmentally destructive and be opposed just the same.

Haha but the oil sands are literally just a giant natural oil spill. We're doing the environment a favour by cleaning it up!

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

I wonder how many know that our oil that is shipped to the US is being sold at a discounted price and that Canada could be getting a lot more for oils and gas if we could send it to Asian markets.

the amaricans are trying to stop us from shipping to asia

as for refinery's we made it so no one wants to own them in canada. wpg had 2 of them at one point

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Haha but the oil sands are literally just a giant natural oil spill. We're doing the environment a favour by cleaning it up!

not really when ur removing the sulfer and leaving it in giant piles of cubes

[windypeg]

All this fuss over an industry that has nowhere to go but down in the coming years and decades... just a thought but maybe Alberta could start diversifying their economy instead of continuing to depend on one dying industry?

[1ajs]

oil is a national buisnes though it not just in alberta........

[Roger Strong]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Was the cologne mass rape event also fabricated?

That was real. Although those incidents were happening BEFORE the refugees arrived.

You can always find such incidents - including mass incidents - in ANY group. Heck, the Catholic International Child Rape Exchange Program is still running. They've recently been caught rotating their North American and European pedophiles down to South America. They've done worse, on a larger scale, just in Canada.

The mafia is not representative of Italians. Neo-Nazis and white supremacists are not representative of white Anglo-Saxon Protestants. Pedophiles are not representative of Catholics. Various other ethnic-oriented crime gangs in North America - staffed by people who are no more recent immigrants than you or I - are not representative of their ethnicities.

But if one wanted to make a Breitbart-style case for ANY of those, one could.

[optimusREIM]

^https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWiwgofHTiA&t=3034s

This is an interview with Tim Pool, a former Vice News reporter. He talks about the things happening in Sweden. Starts around 39:30.

To hearken back to your earlier post about Sweden. There are real problems there. This is not fabricated. I don't see how acknowledging that there are problems with immigration constitutes a problem in itself. We should address those problems and fix the issues. Thinking that you should have a careful and measured approach to refugees does not make one "far-right".

Criticism of immigration does not mean that you think immigrants are evil.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

oil is a national buisnes though it not just in alberta........

No other province is dependent on it like Alberta though. You could also just apply that argument to the country needing to succession plan for the eventual fall of oil. I know a province that’s over-prepared to step into the “clean” energy limelight...

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

the amaricans are trying to stop us from shipping to asia

as for refinery's we made it so no one wants to own them in canada. wpg had 2 of them at one point

You can thank the NDP for the closure of the Shell refinery in Winnipeg they wanted environmental standards that didn't exist in the industry at the time.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

You can thank the NDP for the closure of the Shell refinery in Winnipeg they wanted environmental standards that didn't exist in the industry at the time.

what happens when ur the first out the door

[Roger Strong]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

This is an interview with Tim Pool, a former Vice News reporter. He talks about the things happening in Sweden.

His trip there was funded by that paragon of truth, InfoWars. And he was caught simply making stuff up.

And it gets worse.

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

To hearken back to your earlier post about Sweden. There are real problems there. This is not fabricated.

There are real crimes, real serious incidents, just as there are in any segment of the population. You can cherry-pick out of any of them.

There are of course some major exceptions in Europe, especially in France, and for good reason: Unlike all of most of the western hemisphere, Europe didn't have birthright citizenship until recently. And even then, with significant limitations. Sweden doesn't have it at all.

All those Algerians brought into France as maids, nannys and other cheap labor eventually had kids. Then grandkids. None of whom got citizenship. They know they're not even second-class citizens. Ghettos form. Riots become common, as they probably should.

We don't - and won't - have this problem. We give all immigrants a path to citizenship, and their kids and grandkids born here are automatically granted citizenship. There are no second-class citizens, let alone not-even-second-class-citizens. And the Syrian refugees for example were spread out across more than 110 communities. No ghettos.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by Roger Strong

His trip there was funded by that paragon of truth, InfoWars. And he was caught simply making stuff up.

And it gets worse.



There are real crimes, real serious incidents, just as there are in any segment of the population. You can cherry-pick out of any of them.

There are of course some major exceptions in Europe, especially in France, and for good reason: Unlike all of most of the western hemisphere, Europe didn't have birthright citizenship until recently. And even then, with significant limitations. Sweden doesn't have it at all.

All those Algerians brought into France as maids, nannys and other cheap labor eventually had kids. Then grandkids. None of whom got citizenship. They know they're not even second-class citizens. Ghettos form. Riots become common, as they probably should.

We don't - and won't - have this problem. We give all immigrants a path to citizenship, and their kids and grandkids born here are automatically granted citizenship. There are no second-class citizens, let alone not-even-second-class-citizens. And the Syrian refugees for example were spread out across more than 110 communities. No ghettos.

I'm not sure what he could have been making up about being escorted out of Rinkeby. Looks an awful lot like an escort to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODw7o34Vdbk

Also I'm fairly confident that Buzzfeed isn't exactly an unbiased news source themselves...

[alittle1]

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Donald Trump....yes, I saw you nodding your head as you read these....

[dmacc]

^^ haha, I didn't see that coming

[Roger Strong]

Originally Posted by alittle1

Donald Trump....yes, I saw you nodding your head as you read these....

Those quotes come from "Donald Trump: The Art of the Deal." So Tony Schwartz, not Donald Trump.

Schwartz expressed regrets about his involvement in the book, and both he and the book's publisher, Howard Kaminsky, said that Trump had played no role in the actual writing of the book.
- The New Yorker

"I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization. Trump only takes two positions. Either you're a scummy loser, liar, whatever, or you're the greatest...A stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance."
- Art of the Deal ghostwriter Tony Schwartz

It's not like Trump follows many of the rules in the list.