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ethereal_reality · #**35621** Posted **Jun 21, 2016, 10:41 PM**

Originally posted by HossC

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Originally Posted by oldstuff

I find a Jack Tyre, who was self employed. He registered for the WWII draft and gave a business address of 2039 E. 38th St., Los Angeles.

There is also a listing for Tyre Brothers Glass located at 3008 S. San Pedro in a 1933 directory

oldstuff, just for fun I checked out an aerial of 3008 S. San Pedro.

As you can see, there are other interesting things in this aerial, like the diagonal slash of land at left, no doubt a remnant of the former railway line.

The rectangular pinkish building just above the diagonal line, is an attractive 1926 Water & Power building.

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HossC · #**35622** Posted **Jun 21, 2016, 11:19 PM**

Here's the Southern Pacific RR line on the 1910 Baist map. I moved the compass rose to show the orientation.

www.historicmapworks.com

ethereal_reality · #**35623** Posted **Jun 21, 2016, 11:45 PM**

Thanks Hoss, this map is really interesting.

I couldn't help but notice the dead-end spur angling northeast, away from the curve
-did it eventually merge, at a later date, with the P.E. tracks on San Pedro St?

http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/...ys/California/

I just realized this is the line heading over to Exposition Park. (which we've discussed on NLA more than a few times)
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sidenote:
when I was exploring the map at historic_map_works I noticed the date is 1910.

"From Los Angeles 1910 Baist's Real Estate Surveys, California
Published by G. W. Baist in 1910"

Is this correct?

ethereal_reality · #**35624** Posted **Jun 22, 2016, 12:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by oldstuff

Top right you can see some barracks, administration building and the parade ground at Ft. MacArthur. Just below the parade ground you can see large uniform buildings, each with two chimneys. Those are officers' family quarters in a duplex set up. They would have been for more junior officers. There are some single family houses facing the long end of the parade ground for higher ranking officers and their families. A lot of the houses in the foreground, just below the edge of the hill have been replaced with apartments. Warehouse number 1 is also visible just above the fort buildings, next to the main channel. The view is just about due east from the area of the Gaffey Bulge. The street you can catch a glimpse of to the extreme left of the photo would be 34th. I went by there yesterday since we had just been talking about it.

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Warehouse number 1 is also visible just above the fort buildings, next to the main channel. The view is just about due east from the area of the Gaffey Bulge.

Thanks oldstuff, I didn't see Warehouse No.1 until you pointed it out.

This is it, right? (red arrow)

eBay

Just for fun I thought I'd mess with this aerial with my very limited computer skills.

The BLUE curve is the 'Gaffey Bulge', and my arrow points to Warehouse No.1

google_earth

Looking at this, it appears the parade ground doesn't line up correctly with the B&W postcard image.

So perhaps the photographer wasn't located at the 'Gaffey Bulge' after all, but further north on Gaffey Street.

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Originally Posted by oldstuff

If you look at the Google earth pictures, you can still see outlines in the grass of the Fort MacArthur parade ground from WWI and WWII gun emplacements.
They appear as round circles, some with wings standing out from the circles and they stay visible in the grass for a long time, even though the area is now a flat field.

I believe these are the 'outlines' oldstuff is talking about. She has a good eye.

google_earth / old parade grounds

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ethereal_reality · #**35625** Posted **Jun 22, 2016, 1:19 AM**

Okay, I know it's time to call it a night.

google_earth

I swear I see a buried minion.

http://durbannorthcoast.getitonline..../#.V2nkXrgrKhc

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ethereal_reality · #**35626** Posted **Jun 22, 2016, 3:58 AM**

'mystery' location.

"Many injured during street car strike, 1934."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-Press-P...MAAOSwbYZXaMqC

"More than a score of passengers and trainmen were injured in a wild renewal of violence
on the second day of the Los Angeles Calif. Street Car Strike.

In the more violent occurance, a trolley motorman who was fleeing from the threat of a beating, rounded the corner in his speeding car and crashed into the rear of another car,
which had been stalled by a crippling of a third car. More than 20 persons from the center and third car were flung from their seats and suffered cuts and bruises.

Photo shows the ambulance taking away the injured passengers from the three-car crash." [11/26/34]

Does anyone recognize the area in the photograph?
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Flyingwedge · #**35627** Posted **Jun 22, 2016, 4:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks oldstuff, I didn't see Warehouse No.1 until you pointed it out.

This is it, right? (red arrow)

eBay

Just for fun I thought I'd mess with this aerial with my very limited computer skills.

The BLUE curve is the 'Gaffey Bulge', and my arrow points to Warehouse No.1

Looking at this, it appears the parade ground doesn't line up correctly with the B&W postcard image.

So perhaps the photographer wasn't located at the 'Gaffey Bulge' after all, but further north on Gaffey Street.

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e_r, I think the b/w photo looks more in the direction of my lame yellow arrow, not your nice red one:

If I'm right, that means the building in the b/w photo below the unfilled red arrow might be around Beacon and 9th,
give or take a block or two.

HossC · #**35628** Posted **Jun 22, 2016, 2:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I couldn't help but notice the dead-end spur angling northeast, away from the curve
-did it eventually merge, at a later date, with the P.E. tracks on San Pedro St?

http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/...ys/California/

I just realized this is the line heading over to Exposition Park. (which we've discussed on NLA more than a few times)

Here is part of the 1921 Baist map which seems to show that the dead-end spur was virtually removed. The size of the plots on the 1910 map (above) makes me think that they were residential, whereas in 1921 the spur appears to end between two larger buildings, possibly factories or warehouses.

www.historicmapworks.com

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

sidenote:
when I was exploring the map at historic_map_works I noticed the date is 1910.

"From Los Angeles 1910 Baist's Real Estate Surveys, California
Published by G. W. Baist in 1910"

Is this correct?

There are three Baist maps available at historicmapworks.com:1910, 1914 and 1921. I originally posted yesterday's map as 1921 because that's the one I look at most. It's actually from 1910, as amended in my post.

HossC · #**35629** Posted **Jun 22, 2016, 7:17 PM**

It's time for another Julius Shulman guessing game. Can you work out who this duo are? The pictures date from 1948. I bet GW knows as he's identified them before.

They were architects. Here they are possibly at the drawing board.

This last image (there are more in the photoset) shows one of their creations in the background. They also designed the Pan-Pacific Auditorium and the General Petroleum Building amongst others.

Did you guess? This is "Job 169: Wurdeman & Becket portraits, 1948". Welton Becket is the one on the left, with Walter Wurdeman on the right. You can see them in their offices in the middle of post #33869.

All from Getty Research Institute

Martin Pal · #**35630** Posted **Jun 22, 2016, 8:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I believe these are the 'outlines' oldstuff is talking about. She has a good eye.

google_earth / old parade grounds

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Photo of the building directly at bottom center right on Officer's Road in the above photograph.

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Historic Officer's Quarters, Middle Reservation, Fort MacArthur:

Must have been taken before drought restrictions.

CityBoyDoug · #**35631** Posted **Jun 22, 2016, 10:32 PM**

Here is the Wrigley Mansion high above the city of Avalon, Catalina Island.

1919

Mr Wrigley owned the entire island except for the little resort town of Avalon.

photos from CDfile

Wig-Wag · #**35632** Posted **Jun 23, 2016, 3:23 AM**

ER, this car is leaving the Watts Car House at 103rd street for a run to 6th & Main streets station in Downtown LA. The buildings in the background are those of Markham Middle School on the Grandee Avenue side. The school is now heavily fenced off but the building are still in their original brick.

Cheers,
Jack

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' location.

This slide dated 1958 was on eBay a month or so ago.

eBay

I believe it's new to NLA, mainly because I don't remember the orange Pacific Electric Pickup Truck.

very cool

detail

note 'MP 1553' on the door of the truck (does anyone recognize that designation?

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Bristolian · #**35633** Posted **Jun 23, 2016, 4:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

There's still a few left. Here's what they sound like.

Click link:

https://youtu.be/k1PCyKhC1_k

I took these photos of a survivor Wig-Wag signal in Gardena. It's on Denker Avenue just south of 166th st. The rail line still serves Crenshaw Lumber on the west side of Western Ave and I believe it was once part of the Pacific Electric system.

Here's a YouTube video of another one in action a few blocks away on the same line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ropRwEHNFHo

Blaster · #**35634** Posted **Jun 23, 2016, 2:52 PM**

Mr Wrigley owned the entire island except for the little resort town of Avalon.

photos from CDfile[/QUOTE]

Her nearest neighbor was western author Zane Grey. His house is now the Zane Grey Pueblo Hotel. In 1925, Mrs. Wrigley built a chimes tower on the edge of Grey's property to loudly chime the hour every fifteen minutes. The tower was supposed to be a gift to the people of Avalon but the story goes that Mrs. Wrigley actually built it to annoy Grey.

Wig-Wag · #**35635** Posted **Jun 23, 2016, 4:50 PM**

Thanks, for posting these photos Bristolian! I was not aware this wig-wag still existed. Also, I have never seen one with a banner (the round disc containing the light) as pummeled as this one!

Cheers,
Jack

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Originally Posted by Bristolian

I took these photos of a survivor Wig-Wag signal in Gardena. It's on Denker Avenue just south of 166th st. The rail line still serves Crenshaw Lumber on the west side of Western Ave and I believe it was once part of the Pacific Electric system.

Here's a YouTube video of another one in action a few blocks away on the same line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ropRwEHNFHo

Bristolian · #**35636** Posted **Jun 23, 2016, 6:18 PM**

Jack, I figured if anyone would appreciate this, it would be someone known as Wig-Wag. I would guess it's pretty hard to find parts for these nowadays.

HossC · #**35637** Posted **Jun 23, 2016, 9:09 PM**

Following on from yesterday's Wurdeman & Becket portraits, here are three Julius Shulman photos of one of their designs. This is "Job 488: Wurdeman & Becket, Ohrbach's Offices, 1949". No location is given, but I'm guessing somewhere in LA. Including a duplicate, I've left out four pictures from this set.

That's a pretty funky wall.

I tried to work out what the posters on the right were showing, but the only word I could read was Ohrbach's.

All from Getty Research Institute

ethereal_reality · #**35638** Posted **Jun 23, 2016, 10:02 PM**

I really like the stylized musicians and dancers in the 'Funky Wall', but that wall with the scrawny philodendrons is pretty lame.
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'mystery' location.

I searched 'Rosemayne' and 'Primrose' using the search function and came up with zero results

so there's a good chance this is new to NLA.

eBay

Any idea where this photograph was taken? (the blade sign appears to say O.L.S Market)

the photo appeared on the cover of this booklette.

eBay
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Thanks for figuring out the location (Watts Car House at 103rd) in the eBay slide with the red car & orange pickup truck Wig-Wag. -It's much appreciated.

ethereal_reality · #**35639** Posted **Jun 23, 2016, 10:41 PM**

"Arsenal of Deadly Weapons Found in Bedroom of 13-Year-Old Boy."

eBay

details

The only 'Duby' listed in the 1929 Los Angeles Directory is a Lawrence K. Duby (probably the boy's father) at 822 S. Orange drive.

lapl

So that places the boy's arsenal near a busy shopping area (a block and a half south of Wilshire Blvd. and two blocks east of La Brea)

google_earth

While looking at this close-up aerial I tried to imagine which part of the house was the boy's bedroom.

google_earth

Then I thought to myself, "hmmmmm...maybe there are some interior photographs online."

Sure enough, I found the old 'Duby' house in a real estate listing.....and yes, there were 63 photographs! (some were duplicates)

After going through the photos, I decided this was probably the boy's bedroom that contained the deadly arsenal all those years ago in August 1929.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/82...20607019_zpid/

I wonder if anyone has thought to dig up the backyard?

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/82...20607019_zpid/

for bodies

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ProphetM · #**35640** Posted **Jun 24, 2016, 2:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by Blaster

Quote:

Mr Wrigley owned the entire island except for the little resort town of Avalon.

photos from CDfile

Her nearest neighbor was western author Zane Grey. His house is now the Zane Grey Pueblo Hotel. In 1925, Mrs. Wrigley built a chimes tower on the edge of Grey's property to loudly chime the hour every fifteen minutes. The tower was supposed to be a gift to the people of Avalon but the story goes that Mrs. Wrigley actually built it to annoy Grey.

Since you mentioned it:

Chimes tower photo by me, 2013

Also by me

Zane Grey Pueblo, me again

Yo otra vez

Me me me me me meeeeee

Not the greatest photos, but they were taken from the tour bus.