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Old Posted Oct 27, 2022, 11:29 AM
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I'm guessing that's just Uncle Gussy's, and that's not because the area is thriving. It's because Uncle Gussy's is sooooo good.
The area is thriving too.
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Blackstone Tower, that has a nice ring to it.
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Blackstone Tower, that has a nice ring to it.
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Are there any concept renderings of the rear straight side of the building?
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I believe that this proposal will have elevator shafts in the back which is common for Foster.

This POS, 477 Madison, is immediately east of the site, and it’s a matter of time before it’s redeveloped.



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Are there any concept renderings of the rear straight side of the building?
Not really, but it will be a side core tower. Foster has probably redesigned this tower several times by now. But the concept will remain. It’ll be basically a larger 425 Park Avenue.











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Sounds like 345 Park could be redeveloped too.

In 2028, we could see that tower come down, if Blackstone decides to leave. It's a huge tower, but pretty banal. I'd love a 1,400 ft. replacement.
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Sounds like 345 Park could be redeveloped too.

In 2028, we could see that tower come down, if Blackstone decides to leave. It's a huge tower, but pretty banal. I'd love a 1,400 ft. replacement.
Hey! I used to work in that building!

But yeah, it is pretty banal. Especially when it's got the Seagram to one side, and the General Electric to the other - iconic buildings from two different eras.
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Oh yeah, that block sucks. Hopefully that site is redeveloped shortly.
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Oh yeah, that block sucks. Hopefully that site is redeveloped shortly.
I think it will be around for 15 to 20 years. RFR just did a half-assed job adding crappy new windows and painting it grey.

https://rfr.com/properties/property/477-madison-avenue/
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I keep coming back to this page hoping for a redesign lol.
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I keep coming back to this page hoping for a redesign lol.
I hope not, at least for the front which I really like. Maybe the back tho
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^ The back is virtually never shown in renderings, suggesting that even the developers know it is unsightly. It looks like a wall strip for shelves:

http://www.keylar.com.au/wp-content/...g-DSC_3804.jpg
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Just not a fan but whatever. It will likely receive some level of redesign with a tenant commitment anyway.
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It looks like the Xfinity remote, a portable phone or a walkie talkie or something to me. Hate those spires. Can't stop seeing the Honda logo. The Foster technique of pushing the elevator core to the back just looks bad to me. Just not a fan.
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It looks like the Xfinity remote, a portable phone or a walkie talkie or something to me. Hate those spires. Can't stop seeing the Honda logo. The Foster technique of pushing the elevator core to the back just looks bad to me. Just not a fan.
Nah I'll have to disagree. I really like the building. The only part where I'm like "that could be worked on" is the back.
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Nah I'll have to disagree. I really like the building. The only part where I'm like "that could be worked on" is the back.
Even if Blackstone is on board as a tenant and Citadel is on board as a partner, this building won’t be done for several years. Perhaps in 15 years, RFR will redevelop 477 Madison, and 350’s west facade will be obscured.
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Honestly I think the best redesign would just be to parallel the one side on the blank wall. It would kinda look like a glass ripoff of the Hancock Center in Chiglizzy but oh well I think it would be cool.
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Honestly I think the best redesign would just be to parallel the one side on the blank wall. It would kinda look like a glass ripoff of the Hancock Center in Chiglizzy but oh well I think it would be cool.
If they doubled up on the other side that would be awesome, but I don't know that they have the zoning for it.
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I hope and pray his redesigns, whatevr they turn out to be (rumors I hope), leave the absolutely jaw-dropping geometry of the setbacks intact as much as possible…that is, if the finalized form of the outer core should bring any changes to bear on the rest of the tower.

Having no say myself, my druthers would otherwise be to build this wonderful thing according to latest specs.
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