PHILADELPHIA | The Josephine @ 1620 Sansom | 316 FT | 27 FLOORS - Page 14

TK2001 · #1 Posted **Jul 18, 2023, 10:21 PM**

VTV09666 by Tony Valuez, on Flickr

Credits to Tony

TK2001 · #2 Posted **Aug 31, 2023, 1:02 AM**

Philadelphia skyline by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr
You can also see this building in the west side of South Street Bridge

MyDadBuiltThat · #3 Posted **Aug 31, 2023, 7:21 PM**

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Philadelphia skyline by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr
You can also see this building in the west side of South Street Bridge

TK2001, thanks for all the photos! I appreciate the updates. I'm planning a walking tour for the weekend and you've shown me all the places I need to go.

blart · #4 Posted **Sep 28, 2023, 7:50 PM**

9/28

Jerryiz · #5 Posted **Sep 29, 2023, 1:50 AM**

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9/28

I think it's a nice addition to the area and a nice building.

Thanks for the pics!

mcgrath618 · #6 Posted **Sep 29, 2023, 10:55 AM**

It’s nice, but developers shouldn’t be allowed to get away with promising one thing and building another.

Jayfar · #7 Posted **Sep 29, 2023, 12:10 PM**

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It’s nice, but developers shouldn’t be allowed to get away with promising one thing and building another.

Who promised? SLC’s presentations of the initial plans and renderings did not include the word ”promise” as far as I can see. I hate seeing that word mis-attributed so frequently in online discussions generally where the subject parties never promised anything in particular.

Justin7 · #8 Posted **Sep 29, 2023, 6:33 PM**

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Who promised? SLC’s presentations of the initial plans and renderings did not include the word ”promise” as far as I can see. I hate seeing that word mis-attributed so frequently in online discussions generally where the subject parties never promised anything in particular.

No, they didn't pinky swear, but what is the point of these presentations?

Jayfar · #9 Posted **Sep 29, 2023, 9:17 PM**

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No, they didn't pinky swear, but what is the point of these presentations?

Simply to illustrate their concept as it stands at that point in time, subject to change.

PurpleWhiteOut · #10 Posted **Sep 30, 2023, 5:49 AM**

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No, they didn't pinky swear, but what is the point of these presentations?

I agree. Though nonbinding, that's the idea of CDR and civic group meetings. You shouldn't be able to just present something totally different than reality when these are required processes. Otherwise we'll see people presenting whatever people want to see to avoid continuances, even if theres no intention to follow through

SEFTA · #11 Posted **Sep 29, 2023, 3:15 PM**

Is the base to be masonry?

TK2001 · #12 Posted **Sep 29, 2023, 3:25 PM**

@southernlandcompany
Drone shots possibly by Elevated Angles, as they also collaborated on The Laurel and (different developers) Arthaus

PHLtoNYC · #13 Posted **Sep 29, 2023, 3:58 PM**

^ Different than the plan, but still looks snazzy, especially that view from the South looking North.

skyhigh07 · #14 Posted **Sep 29, 2023, 4:00 PM**

I was a little nervous about the color palette change but I think it turned out great! It blends well with the Market St towers in the background and serves as a nice contrast with the pre-war buildings on Walnut

mcgrath618 · #15 Posted **Sep 30, 2023, 7:04 AM**

If you change something as aesthetically significant as the color palate of the building, you should have to go back to CDR again in my opinion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think dismissing a change this drastic as, “oh plans change” completely ignores the point of institutions like CDR (or L&I for that matter). If you present a design, while non binding it is intended that the developer do so in good faith. If the plans change, you should have to let it be publicly known.
What’s to stop me from proposing a neoclassical trophy tower, only to completely switch to a blank curtain wall after permitting goes through? Is it illegal? No, but it’s shitty.

TK2001 · #16 Posted **Sep 30, 2023, 1:50 PM**

1620 Sansom Street (photoshop) Images from Southern Land Company by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

1620 Sansom Street (photoshop) Images from Southern Land Company by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

I do like how this turned out, but I really prefer the original cladding

UrbanRevival · #17 Posted **Sep 30, 2023, 2:29 PM**

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I do like how this turned out, but I really prefer the original cladding

Stunning shots, thanks for sharing.

I just also want to note how incredible the granularity and density of Center City looks with all of the development of the past decade (something often overlooked as we judge each individual project).

Just truly top-notch and satisfying.

Philly Fan · #18 Posted **Sep 30, 2023, 3:27 PM**

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Stunning shots, thanks for sharing.

Those are photoshopped photos of the cladding color planned for this tower, and not just photos of what was actually done, right?

Gatorade_Jim · #19 Posted **Sep 30, 2023, 5:30 PM**

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1620 Sansom Street (photoshop) Images from Southern Land Company by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

1620 Sansom Street (photoshop) Images from Southern Land Company by Philly SkyGuy, on Flickr

I do like how this turned out, but I really prefer the original cladding

Ugh the red looks so good!!! Well it is what it is. Still a nice looking building and great infill for Sansom.

TK2001 · #20 Posted **Sep 30, 2023, 2:49 PM**

This I agree with too, lots of people hope for Philadelphia to have more towers proposed in the 500-1,000 foot range. But the towers in the 200-400 foot range have already produced a lot of new mass, as I keep going back and forth in my own massings to observe the growth. Even with everything proposed at the moment, the change in the skyline will be noticeable