Ontario Highways - Page 11

sonysnob · #**201** Posted **Nov 22, 2018, 1:52 AM**

^ I'd say it's a pretty fair assumption that all the work that occurred this summer was tendered by the MTO before the Spring provincial election by the Liberals.

Dengler Avenue · #**202** Posted **Nov 23, 2018, 1:34 AM**

https://www.therecord.com/news-story...delayed-again/

Now I wish Greyhound would give up that route so that Metrolinx can provide proper Go service between Guelph and Kitchener via 7 and between Guelph and Cambridge via 24 in the mean time.

I assume that most people actually work in the industrial parks so trains from Guelph Central Go won’t do anything.

Dengler Avenue · #**203** Posted **Nov 24, 2018, 12:00 AM**

As we were talking about Nipigon...
http://www.netnewsledger.com/2018/11...or-four-lanes/

Dengler Avenue · #**204** Posted **Nov 30, 2018, 5:38 AM**

After trying to draw the trajectory of a four-lane divided Highway 17 in NEO for fun, I can’t help but ask this question:
Why on earth did MTO allow people to build houses along the highway?
Why didn’t MTO ban doing so unless there were frontage roads and enough ROW for future expansion? BC has much much much harsher terrain but even its highways mostly have frontage roads in built-up areas. Just look at Cariboo Highway (97), for example.

Instead of twinning, I “had to realign 99% of the route, including bypassing small towns”.

Something like Highway 417 Cobden Bypass should be an embarrassment: The actual town doesn’t even occupy that much space, but due to acquisition issue, the freeway has to be on the other side of the lake. How ridiculous is that??

Also, if MTO didn’t let T Bay build up Dawson Road (102), the freeway could have gone there instead.

If Highway 7 between KW and Guelph (the rural portion, that is) isn’t built up, we can have just twinned the middle portion. Highway 9 between Newmarket and Orangeville, with AADT ~17K, faces the same issue.

Other examples include the notorious 6 and 10.

vid · #**205** Posted **Dec 1, 2018, 3:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Why on earth did MTO allow people to build houses along the highway?
Why didn’t MTO ban doing so unless there were frontage roads and enough ROW for future expansion?

There was never any intention to expand those highways, at the time the houses were built. It simply wasn't envisioned.

Even in Thunder Bay, they didn't envision a point in time where the expressway would need to be twinned through the city itself, so they didn't bother buying enough right of way to accomplish that efficiently. Once it does get twinned, we're going to have sound barriers within 50 feet of people's homes.

Dengler Avenue · #**206** Posted **Dec 1, 2018, 6:11 AM**

On another note, construction crews have installed guardrails along the left lanes of Highway 404 around Major Mac.

Dengler Avenue · #**207** Posted **Dec 6, 2018, 2:33 AM**

I was just driving north on 400. It turns out that the interchange with Line 5 is not yet opened so that the RIRO with Canal Road has to stay for yet another while.

Dengler Avenue · #**208** Posted **Dec 8, 2018, 4:04 AM**

https://www.drydennow.com/local/new-...rds-introduced

At least this is something that finally both PC and NDP can agree to (unless the details tick NDP off)...?

Dengler Avenue · #**209** Posted **Dec 10, 2018, 4:28 AM**

http://www.netnewsledger.com/2017/08...dia-not-right/

Shared by Improving Northwestern Highway 17 on Facebook, seen just now

Loco101 · #**210** Posted **Dec 10, 2018, 6:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

https://www.drydennow.com/local/new-...rds-introduced

At least this is something that finally both PC and NDP can agree to (unless the details tick NDP off)...?

I really hope what they say is true. In the last few weeks there have been some times on our region's highways where maintenance crews took way too long to respond to snowfall.

I wish Ontario had a 511 phone app like other provinces do.

sonysnob · #**211** Posted **Dec 10, 2018, 10:09 AM**

It seems really stupid to me that we don’t have a phone app. The province spent all that money developing a new 511 website, and seemed to miss the most the most obvious use for the site. At lest the 511 website does work reasonably well on a mobile phone.

Dengler Avenue · #**212** Posted **Dec 12, 2018, 1:49 AM**

I wasn’t exactly paying attention, but apparently the exit from Highway 400 onto Highway 89 only shows Cookstown now. It used to say New Tecumseh too. I guess MTO doesn’t want people to confuse it with Tecumeh which is on the 401 all the way in Essex County?

sonysnob · #**213** Posted **Dec 12, 2018, 6:27 AM**

^ How long ago did it say New Tecumseh? The current sign for Alliston and Cookstown has been there for at least a decade.

Dengler Avenue · #**214** Posted **Dec 12, 2018, 1:46 PM**

Really?? I started driving in 2016 and I thought I saw the sign then.

sonysnob · #**215** Posted **Dec 12, 2018, 3:02 PM**

^ I think your eyes may be playing tricks on you

Dengler Avenue · #**216** Posted **Dec 13, 2018, 6:07 AM**

Tonight I was driving on 400 north of the split heading north at 10 pm and then south at 12am. I counted at least 15 trucks. I couldn’t imagine what a gong show it’d be if the highway weren’t twinned back then.

wave46 · #**217** Posted **Dec 13, 2018, 7:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Tonight I was driving on 400 north of the split heading north at 10 pm and then south at 12am. I counted at least 15 trucks. I couldn’t imagine what a gong show it’d be if the highway weren’t twinned back then.

15 trucks in 2 hours? That's your bar for busy? If they're all doing ~90-100 km/h and relatively evenly spaced, you might take hundreds of kilometres to pass them all, assuming you're doing 105-110 km/h.

Dengler Avenue · #**218** Posted **Dec 13, 2018, 7:10 PM**

Okay I don’t know what truck traffic was like in that interval as I was driving down the 12 (and 93) towards Midland and Penetanguishene.

Seriously though, I was going 120 kph between exit 141 and 156 (so 7.5 minutes) and I saw 8 coming south and 1 going north.

Dengler Avenue · #**219** Posted **Dec 13, 2018, 7:16 PM**

For the context: I was trying to cover the entire length of Highway 48, Highway 12 and Highway 93 in one night just to relax. I stopped by Orillia, Port Severn, Penetanguishene and Midland.

I was actually surprised (and appalled) to see Highway 12 littered with traffic lights around Beaverton and between Orillia and Oro-Medonte.

As for 48, I’m not as surprised.

Also there are actually a lot of small towns on the 93 so speed reduction happens regularly.

sonysnob · #**220** Posted **Dec 13, 2018, 8:04 PM**

Highway 12 is pretty busy between the two Highway 48 junctions around Beaverton. At the tail end of the Eves' government, the MTO started work to four lane sections of the highway around Beaverton (which explains the extra-wide bridge just south of Main Street), The Liberals never followed through with any extra lanes when they took power under McGuinty. The widening of Highway 12 is a project that I hope that the current Conservative government resurrects as I find Highway 12 to be a pretty unpleasant drive on most days.