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Old Posted Sep 14, 2019, 9:16 PM
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Jeff Leiper was handing out a bunch at Tunney's Pasture station at opening time.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2019, 9:23 PM
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I am overjoyed and filled with pride at this launch.

Gentleman, and ladies, it has been a true honour reading this forum for the past several years, as we waited for this day to finally arrive. Long have we watched as the tunnel now used by happy Ottawans, young and old, was first debated (remember the days it was called the DOTT?) then finally dug (after moving under Queen St, remember that press conference and not having to worry about a station underneath the Canal?), the rails laid (apparently they were imported from Turkey, according to one rider this AM?), the stations dug and rose, and finally we are now here.

For those unable to be here on opening day, it was a day of cheers, of long queues as Ottawans finally left our palaces of Netflix (and apparently occasional Ashley Madison) to join together and ride the rails. It was a day of seemingly every single rider pointing out historical context, intricate station details, and half-hearted jokes about #OnTrack2018.

We did it, SSP! Rejoice in your system, and breathe easy that under your watchful eyes, the City of Ottawa is boring no more, it’s citizenry no longer complacent, as we seek to expand the reach of transit oriented development. I look forward to a bright sunny future of us all opening our hearts back to OC Transpo after the strike of 2007.

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Old Posted Sep 14, 2019, 9:26 PM
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Just finished taking it end to end. I'm quite impressed, more than I was expecting to be. I know it's been said a million times but the city feels different when you're using this system. Especially getting out at Rideau. It's a new way to experience the connected neighborhoods, ones that I feel I've known for a long time.
Agreed. This feels like a metro. It feels like Ottawa is growing up.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2019, 9:28 PM
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I see people on Twitter with station magnets and also an O pin.

Any folks that rode today know where to get those? (I might ride tonight)
Got a station magnet at my station as I was getting off.

A lady had the train cut out for her son. She was saying how her son wanted one and they ran out so they went to the OC Transpo customer service in the Rideau Centre and got one.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2019, 9:33 PM
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Got a station magnet at my station as I was getting off.

A lady had the train cut out for her son. She was saying how her son wanted one and they ran out so they went to the OC Transpo customer service in the Rideau Centre and got one.
Thanks. Wonder if there will be any folks still handing out stuff at 7-8ish?

They should sell O-Train stuff via the website. (Those bags would prove popular I would think, as would the magnets)
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2019, 10:21 PM
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I spent over 2 hours riding around the system with my oldest kid starting at 14:00:
Line 1 - Blair to Tunney's
Line 1 - Tunney's to Bayview
Line 2 - Bayview to Greenboro
98 - South Keys to Hurdman
Line 1 - Hurdman to Rideau (had to check out the escalator!)
Line 1 - Rideau to Blair

It's a nice & quick ride from Blair to downtown. I'm impressed. Feels like a big city transit system! Looking forward to riding it regularly come winter when I don't commute by bicycle as much.

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Old Posted Sep 14, 2019, 11:01 PM
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New LRT represents a return to Ottawa's historic roots of transportation

Elizabeth Payne, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: September 14, 2019



A historic photo shows streetcars traveling on a busy Sparks Street in 1903.

People attending the official opening of the LRT Saturday morning at Tunney’s Pasture were greeted with images of streetcars rolling through the city’s streets more than half a century ago, a reminder that this was not Ottawa’s first ride on the rails.

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Trams, first pulled by horses and later electric streetcars — as well as trains — moved people around the streets of Ottawa and beyond for decades until the popularity of automobiles bumped Ottawa’s streetcars into the history books in the late 1950s. The first streetcars began in Ottawa in 1870.

The trams that took Ottawa residents to places of work and leisure, including Britannia Beach for swimming and picnics, were made in Ottawa and sold across the country. The fleet was eventually decommissioned in 1959.

In 2017, as a Canada 150 project, a group of local enthusiasts restored a rusted, century old streetcar.


Restored by volunteers, Car 696 ran on the Britannia line until 1957.

Many Ottawa residents still remember life with streetcars, but it would be years of debate and discussion before a working plan to build a new rail-based transit system was in place.

Buses have been king on the city’s streets since streetcars disappeared.

OC Transpo’s Transitway, a rapid transit network that separated some buses from regular traffic, began in 1983. But, as the city grew, the crowding of buses downtown during rush hour, especially, became increasingly unworkable.

Ottawa’s new 12.5-kilometre LRT includes a 2.5-kilometre tunnel under downtown Ottawa, the most difficult and costly section of the light rail system.

That tunnel has opened after more than a century of proposals to move traffic in a subway under the city, beginning in 1915 with a report to Parliament from the Holt Commission that recommended streetcars be placed in a subway between Bronson and Rideau streets. The report, which was never implemented, noted the severe congestion of Sparks Street and arteries leading up to it, including Bank and Elgin streets.

The idea of a subway under downtown did not come up again for decades.

When serious planning began about an east-west LRT line in 2008, a 3.2-kilometre tunnel with four underground LRT stations was initially proposed. Plans were eventually agreed on for a 2.5-kilometre tunnel from just before Bronson Avenue to the University of Ottawa.

Of the total $2.1 billion, the cost of the tunnel is about $500 million.

The LRT is more than a tunnel, however. Its construction, marked by a sinkhole on Rideau Street and 16 months of delay, represents one of the biggest city-building project in the capital’s history and marks a return to the city’s roots at a time when Ottawa’s population has surpassed one million people.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...ottawas-historic-roots-of-transportation
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2019, 11:15 PM
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Agreed. This feels like a metro. It feels like Ottawa is growing up.
For sure. I also haven't seen people in Ottawa this excited about public transit possibly ever. That made me happy to see even if it's just for one day.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2019, 11:32 PM
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Can't wait to give it a spin. This article on CBC has links to lots of photos and videos from day 1:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/your-photos-first-ottawa-lrt-ride-1.5284040
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2019, 12:03 AM
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For sure. I also haven't seen people in Ottawa this excited about public transit possibly ever. That made me happy to see even if it's just for one day.
I saw an entire family dressed up in tuxedos on my train. I'd upload pics here if I could. They bussed in from Orleans. Dad and teens. Were with me on the second train out of Blair.

These are regular folks. Not transit geeks or RTG employees.

I expected folks on this forum to be excited. But suburbanites? Pleasantly surprised.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2019, 12:08 AM
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I'm in Montreal right now, using my beloved metro. I look forward to riding the LRT upon my return tomorrow and get that similar feel in Ottawa.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2019, 12:14 AM
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Rode from greenboro to Bayview to st Laurent, back to Rideau then back to greenboro after stops for dinner etc..

First impression is that confed line is amazing. Trains were fast, clean and busy on day 1. But the one thing that strikes you especially at Rideau is the city feels completely different. It feels bustling as you exit out at William st or into the Rideau centre.

Overall, I was very impressed and it was worth all the aggravating delays. Lyon and parliament platforms seem a bit thin to me. We’ll see how they handle rush hour.
     
     
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I'm going to try it tomorrow but I wish I had done it today, those magnets looked super cool!
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2019, 12:30 AM
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Boarded the first train out of Tunny's and did the full line to Blair, then back to Tunny's while disembarking and exploring each station. First impressions:
- The trains and stations were clean and generally not overcrowded.
- There were lots of red-shirted staff who were in good spirits and very helpful.
- It was interesting see new perspectives of Ottawa as you travel along the line (e.g. travelling parallel to Nicholas Street).
- The momentary disorientation as you exit the underground stations was an interesting experience; despite living downtown, it's funny how unfamiliar it can look until you get your bearings.

I'm looking forward to using it on Monday for my commute, including transferring at Tunny's.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2019, 1:55 AM
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Conferderation Line Reflections

I rode the train for almost 3 hours today, going end-to-end, then working my way back and exploring the stations. I cannot describe how it changes the feel of Ottawa. It feels so much different. It is a city changing event. I can't wait for two weeks from now when all the buses are pulled off the streets of downtown.

The underground stations feel so much bigger than I thought they would. The few photos we saw didn't really give a good sense of scale. The platforms are wide and the ceilings feel tall While I am disappointed they did not resemble the stone-walled renderings, the coloured panels didn't look as cheap as I feared. We can finally put the great Rideau/Lyon ceiling tiles debate to bed. Perforated metal sheets printed with a wood texture - not ideal, but not bad either. Some of the artwork is very good, particularly Tunny's, Pimisi, Rideau, Lees, and Blair. I also loved seeing people who were taking the train not for fun, but were using it for commuting. It seemed very natural for most people to navigate the stations and trains.

While good, I do have to say I was disappointed about a few things. Many of the stations, underground in particular, were grimy and needed touchups. For a system merely a few hours open, I expected better. I saw cracked tiles, filthy floors, streaked glass, and escalators clogged with dirt. I was a bit disappointed that we didn't opt for a train that had one long, connected carriage or didn't choose a design that does not have garish blue seats and yellow bars everywhere you look.

I was most surprised about how the train primarily serves empty fields. I wish we had had a visionary city council who paid the money to put the train where people already live and would use it, and not theoretical future neighbourhoods like Tunney's, Pimisi, Hurdman, and Cyrville. I imagined what it would have been like had the train, after UOttawa, turned and served Vanier, or after Lyon, tunneled under Richmond Road. We walked from Tunney's into Wellington West and I realized that this neighbourhood will never see high-order transit, despite its relative density since the Confederation Line is a 10-15 minute walk away instead of serving where already people live. I think the same about Stage 2 and its primary service routes of more fields and highways. People came second in both stages.

That said, the Confederation Line is a welcome addition to Ottawa and I am so looking forward to how it shapes and changes our great city in the next decades. Cheers everyone, five years of waiting and watching, and its finally here!


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Old Posted Sep 15, 2019, 2:19 AM
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I saw an entire family dressed up in tuxedos on my train. I'd upload pics here if I could. They bussed in from Orleans. Dad and teens. Were with me on the second train out of Blair.

These are regular folks. Not transit geeks or RTG employees.

I expected folks on this forum to be excited. But suburbanites? Pleasantly surprised.
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...-so-long-lrt-passengers-comment-on-day-1

Picture 31??
     
     
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NB: I am not referring to the rest of the OC network.
They need to improve the bus frequency, all around, BIG time!
And reliability.

And, in many places, capacity.

And amenities.

And in the core, not just the suburbs.
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it’s citizenry no longer complacent, as we seek to expand the reach of transit oriented development.
At the expense of seeking development-oriented transit.

One quick ride so far - Tunney's to Blair. The cars are not nearly as narrow as I'd feared from photos (too many wide-angled lens shots?). Underground stations are bigger than they look, too. Some of the overground stations are still way overbuilt for my liking; could we have really cut the suit to fit the cloth, as Watson was so fond of saying, and added another station somewhere on Phase I?

More to some when I've explored more. Wish the city hadn't given itself yet another year's worth of excuses to not fix the rickety bus system post-LRT.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2019, 2:43 AM
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the coloured panels didn't look as cheap as I feared. We can finally put the great Rideau/Lyon ceiling tiles debate to bed. Perforated metal sheets printed with a wood texture - not ideal, but not bad either. Some of the artwork is very good, particularly Tunny's, Pimisi, Rideau, Lees, and Blair.
I might be the rare critic on the ceiling debate. But I think it's definitely disappointing. It's just not totally crap looking. That's the best we can say.

The artwork was nice. My only complaint is the lack of it. I wish we had more murals, and more nice inter-track barriers to jazz it up.


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While good, I do have to say I was disappointed about a few things. Many of the stations, underground in particular, were grimy and needed touchups. For a system merely a few hours open, I expected better. I saw cracked tiles, filthy floors, streaked glass, and escalators clogged with dirt.
Yep. There was also the broken escalator at Rideau. And a failed train that went out of service 5 hrs in. I have my doubts on build quality. We'll see how it fares through a winter of slush and road salt everywhere.

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I was most surprised about how the train primarily serves empty fields. I wish we had had a visionary city council who paid the money to put the train where people already live and would use it, and not theoretical future neighbourhoods like Tunney's, Pimisi, Hurdman, and Cyrville. I imagined what it would have been like had the train, after UOttawa, turned and served Vanier, or after Lyon, tunneled under Richmond Road. We walked from Tunney's into Wellington West and I realized that this neighbourhood will never see high-order transit, despite its relative density since the Confederation Line is a 10-15 minute walk away instead of serving where already people live. I think the same about Stage 2 and its primary service routes of more fields and highways. People came second in both stages.
People really do forget that the reason such an expansive LRT system was possible, was because the existing Transitway was converted from BRT to LRT. The areas you think should have gotten rail, would have required completely grade-separated systems at $200-300M per km. Stage 1 would have been 8-10km if built with your vision. Probably less than half the ridership without buses feeding it.
     
     
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