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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster
Unprofessional? Since when is this a professional relationship?
Vin your views on retail and the industry are humerous and I like to poke fun at them. You have absolutely no insider information or market statistics but you like to definitively speak as though your word is gospel. When you do things like that people will not take you seriously, as I don't.
If you want to have a adult conversation I'm more than happy to, that's why I frequent this forum, but until you do I'm going to keep making jokes because your posting doesn't demand anything more. You ignore facts that don't support your pre-conceived opinions and tout any that do. Quite Trumpian in fact.
If there were demand why would there be two boarded up units in Pacific Centre right now with no 'coming soon' signs? Why would one unit be temped to a calendar shop? That's not the sign of a healthy retail market demanding more space.
Thanks Jlo. I am all for a discussion, but some forumers just want to only discuss what they want, not the reality, and blame everyone else for it not happening.
I've asked him time and time again why Prada, Versace, Hublot etc... went to Alberni rather than be next to Nordstrom or Holts but he has no answer. It's not like CF's first choice was a brand new Bell store adjacent to Harry Rosen...
The best part is in a few years when the retail market does turn around he'll be sitting there saying I told you so! 
Also, dare I say he'll be pleasantly surprised when the rotunda development does come around? I know I'm pretty excited for what's in the works. Troforhien might even think it is big city enough for his sophisticated Parisian palate. |
You are contradicting yourself saying the mall market is weak, and yet PC is spending money on putting a new wing and increasing retail space. Care to explain why that is?
In regards to the 2 new "boarded up" shops in PC, no I haven't noticed empty units, and even if there are, they won't be empty for long, as they are usually taken up pretty soon: a lot sooner than the empty shops on Robson that are empty and languishing for months, if not years.
Why are the lux stores locating to Alberni Street? Answer: There are no new luxury malls downtown that they can find to park their businesses, and Alberni, unfortunately, is the next best thing as all the lux spaces are fully taken in Pacific Centre mall, with new ones being embedded in Holt Renfrew, which is also part of the mall.
Despite the location and glitz touted by promoters of you regarding Alberni, we can see the area is always light on foot traffic. Strellson is the first victim of that area by closing its store earlier this month, even though they retain two stores and one concession in the Toronto area, of which they are all either in or across the street from a mall. Coincidentally, Strellson's surviving concession is with the Bay, which I consider part of the Pacific Centre mall area.
Also, we all do realize that the retail market is shifting, but unlike what you say, there is no such thing as a one-size fits all theory. It is true that big retail stores are shutting their doors, but has ANY of them affected downtown? So far, there hasn't been a single large-format store in the mall that shuts down and stay empty for a period longer than what it takes to re-renovate for the new lease holder. I never propose a new mall to be located anywhere other than within and close to the confines of downtown Vancouver. So your argument does not stand here.
I don't have to wait till the market to turn around to say "I told you so", as I can already tell you right now. Go by Robson street this christmas and see more stores shutting as the region see more city centre malls getting better, bigger, and more exciting. For those who like trolling me, city centre malls DO NOT include Tsawwassen Mills. Again, I never say my word is gospel. If you have reason to doubt what I say, then please elaborate your points and challenge my position. Please please stop branding me a troll, a child or calling me "Trumpian", when you have nothing else better to say. You can ridicule me for the lack of retail knowledge for all you want, but fact remains that with all the professionals, market researchers and so-called "informed" consultants giving advice to retailers, many still end up going belly-up. Sometimes it's better to listen to what everyday consumers really want.
As for the CF rotunda, consensus here is that most forumers, dare I say 90% or at least those who commented, dislike the design. I myself hate it as I feel it contradicts the street concept of West Georgia. The area needs the sidewalk space for the large foot traffic volume, and taking away the plaza and rotunda just make it really tight to fit people going through, mall users and bus pedestrians in wait. Why are you so worked up that most people hate it?
Alas, I hope EdinVan wasn't suspended for the last comment he made?!
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