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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 9:16 PM
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Delta announcement of some sort?
Hehe you went where I stopped short..
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 9:48 PM
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But it goes back to the question of council members attending carrier announcements. Does anyone know if council members attended the announcement for British Airways? It's the only one that I can think of that might garnish that kind of presence. If they did then it's possible it's a new International carrier. If they didn't then I'd say it's something else entirely.

Okay I know I said I wouldng speculate but, would they show up for a hub announcement???

In any event I'm really interested in this upcoming press conference to be sure.
For sure the mayor was there, I don't recall any council members being there though...
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 9:57 PM
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Delta's CEO stated today that they will base their new CSeries jets in Texas, West Coast, and at LGA.

https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/920640956063469569
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 10:18 PM
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Delta's CEO stated today that they will base their new CSeries jets in Texas, West Coast, and at LGA.

https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/920640956063469569
Oh man, that's some good news, although I heard that they might be sending them to Dallas to fight American. That rumor seems to have turned to dust though.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 10:32 PM
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Not to be a downer but:

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On Monday, Bloomberg's Michael Sasso reported that Delta issued an internal memo to pilots regarding plans to also base its C-Series fleet in Los Angeles. In addition, the report identifies Dallas as another major market targeted by the C-Series.

A Delta representative declined to comment on the matter.

"We cannot comment on potential future commercial activities for regulatory compliance reasons," the spokesman said in an email. "Delta will only confirm flight schedule detail when flight schedules are published for sale or as part of regulatory filings."

However, the importance of these base locations cannot be overstated. New York, Los Angeles, and Dallas are not only three of the most highly competitive market in the country, they are also home to American Airlines and Southwest Airlines.
http://www.businessinsider.com/delta...s-la-ny-2017-8
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 10:45 PM
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There is a presser scheduled for Thursday October 26th at which the Mayor and several Council members will be present at the port. Let the speculation begin....
Where can you see presses events scheduled for the Mayor? I looked around the crappy CoA website and couldn't find anything.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 11:36 PM
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So, I talked to someone last weekend who is working in conjunction with the ABIA master plan. They are the one that told me it's due out next Fall. They mentioned that the different expansion options we know about are being considered (piers, south, west), and that the idea that was posted here a year or so ago about tearing down the parking garage and expanding the main terminal northward is being looked at. That is especially important to consider if they go with the two piers coming off the main terminal southward because they would need to expand the front side services like ticketing and security.
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2017, 5:52 AM
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where can you see presses events scheduled for the mayor? I looked around the crappy coa website and couldn't find anything.
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2017, 9:36 AM
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Why do I sense that this is unfair to everybody? Austin, Dallas airports are seems like a mess.
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2017, 5:22 PM
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Why do I sense that this is unfair to everybody? Austin, Dallas airports are seems like a mess.
What is unfair? Were already lucky to be getting so much service in close proximity to Dallas and Houston. I don't see how Austin and Dallas are a mess either...
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Old Posted Oct 19, 2017, 7:31 PM
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What is unfair? Were already lucky to be getting so much service in close proximity to Dallas and Houston. I don't see how Austin and Dallas are a mess either...
I'm wondering if he was trying to say this (though correct me if I'm wrong Bestie1001)

I took it as he was asking if it's unfair to us here in Austin and that Dallas airports seem like a mess.

Again it is hard to understand since grammar and the sentence structure are jumbled up. Maybe he is lumping Austin in with Dallas but just to clarify the possibility that he meant it the way I took it.
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Anyone have a sub that can post the highlights?
https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...-boost-in.html
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 1:56 PM
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Anyone have a sub that can post the highlights?
https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...-boost-in.html
By several measures, Austin is well on its way to becoming a truly global city.

It’s become a haven for foreign real estate investors. Central Texas is home to one of the world’s largest technology companies in Dell Technologies Inc., and a hub for others including Amazon.com Inc., Apple Inc., Facebook Inc. and Google Inc. And its music scene is known far and wide.

There’s just one catch.

Austin-Bergstrom International Airport, the region’s primary link to the rest of the planet, needs to keep pace with the region’s explosive population and economic growth in order to capitalize on that potential.

And that potential could be realized now that a recent multimillion-dollar project and a massive expansion currently underway are significantly increasing the airport’s capacity for global traffic. In fact, new data shows how ABIA is doing more than just about any other U.S. airport when it comes to attracting international air carriers.

Austin “is perhaps the leading medium-hub market for international growth,” said Seth Young, director of the Center for Aviation Studies at Ohio State University and a national authority on the economics of air travel. “If anyone is primed for international growth, it’s Austin,” he added.

There were 14,800 international boardings at ABIA in 2012, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. That grew to 135,200 in 2016 — an 814 percent growth rate that was second in the nation among airports with at least 10,000 boardings. The data only reflects nonstop commercial flights.

“As a result of events such as South by Southwest and Formula 1, our name recognition and people’s awareness of Austin as a destination has increased exponentially,” said Jim Smith, executive director of ABIA. “Airlines are much more knowledgeable about the Austin market than they were three, four or five years ago.”

So far this year, Condor Flugdienst GmbH has said it will increase its flights out of Austin to Frankfurt, Germany, from two to three days a week, and new flights out of ABIA have been announced to Punta Cana, Dominican Republic on Vacation Express and to London Gatwick Airport on Norwegian Air Shuttle ASA.

International routes are also among the fastest-growing at ABIA: Traffic on Condor’s Frankfurt flights is up 99 percent so far this year compared with last. Volaris, which flies to Guadalajara, Mexico, has seen its traffic climb 443 percent year-over-year.

Smith attributes the surge in global traffic to airlines measuring the success of the international flights out of ABIA for the last three years, plus new infrastructure, such as the Terminal East Infill project with an expanded customs and border protection facility.

The Terminal East project added about 55,000 square feet and renovated 17,000 square feet more; ABIA now can handle 400 international passengers an hour instead of 200 per hour previously.

What’s more, the Austin airport’s biggest transformation yet is nearing completion: a $350 million terminal expansion that will add nine gates that will be used for both domestic and international flights. Having an airport of a certain size is something that companies looking to expand into Texas have on their checklist.

What’s next

To grow their international connections, airports sell themselves to carriers — and Austin is no exception.

“Airports approach the airlines and basically build a business case why that airline can make money flying that route,” Smith said. “We were visiting with British Airways for five years before they were comfortable that flight would make money.”


British Airways launched nonstop flights from ABIA to London’s Heathrow Airport in 2014. A total of 85,346 passengers used the route through August, down 2 percent year-over-year after a record 129,941 people flew on British Airways out of Austin in 2016.

Despite the slight dip, British Airways said in September it will begin flying next year into and out of Austin on Boeing Co. 747s — the airport’s first regular commercial passenger service on the large, easily recognizable jetliners. Replacing Boeing’s smaller 787 Dreamliner, the 747s will be able to fit more passengers: six more in first class, 10 more in business class and 116 more in economy.

British Airways started flying direct from Austin to London in 2014 on Boeing Co. 787s. It will switch to larger 747s starting in April 2018.
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Next up: ABIA executives are targeting Asian cities for direct flights.

“We don’t have the numbers quite yet but we’re still going and talking to Asian carriers so when the numbers are good enough, they’ll be ready to go,” Smith said.

He said negotiations with carriers are confidential and declined to identify any companies in discussions with ABIA.

Technological advances in aircraft manufacturing and operations have made it cheaper for international carriers to reach smaller airports such as Austin: “You need to fill fewer seats to make an international market cost feasible,” said Young with Ohio State University.

The FAA classifies ABIA as a medium hub, meaning it handles between 0.25 percent and 1 percent of the country’s annual passenger boardings. A proliferation of low-cost carriers worldwide — including Allegiant Air, Frontier Airlines and Sun Country Airlines in Austin, many running flights out of the South Terminal — has also helped make foreign expansion more feasible for medium hubs around the country.

“Once the domestic market is really firing on all cylinders... that’s when it makes sense to make the investment to attract international flights,” Young said.

Because Asia is farther from Central Texas than Europe, ABIA would need to surmount additional challenges. Larger aircraft than the Boeing 787 are necessary and “you probably need on the order of 200 to 250 passengers a day” on a route to make it worthwhile, Young said, instead of 120 to 150 on a route to Europe.

Airspace is also more tightly regulated in the busy Asian market, so Young said a more likely destination out of Austin than mega-hubs such as Shanghai or Tokyo might be a place such as Guangzhou, China — which has a metro population of 44 million.


Airspace is also more tightly regulated in the busy Asian market, so Young said a more likely destination out of Austin than mega-hubs such as Shanghai or Tokyo might be a place such as Guangzhou, China — which has a metro population of 44 million.

MOVING BODIES
ABIA now flies direct to seven international destinations. Here’s how many people took those flights in 2016:

London, England on British Airways: 127,695 passengers
Cancun, Mexico on Southwest and United: 75,022
Toronto on Air Canada: 42,953
Guadalajara, Mexico on Volaris: 10,874
Frankfurt, Germany on Condor: 8,053
Mexico City on Aeromexico: 5,826
San Jose Del Cabo, Mexico on Southwest: 2,735
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 2:56 PM
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Thank you for doing this! There was a lot of talk about transpacific! I don't get what they're saying about a 787 being too small. They seat way more than 120-150... Not to speculate too much, but if the Korean Air is coming, I see them using a A332 (seats 218) or 789 (seats 269). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air

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I'd love to see ABIA get Lufthansa!
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I'd love to see ABIA get Lufthansa!
Same here, I believe they would do well here, Condor wouldn't affect them too much. They could fly to AUS on an A333 (216). I would also like to see KLM and AirFrance.
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I don't keep up with airport stuff too much, so I don't know if this has been posted before. But it's a 91 page document about the Consolidated Maintenance Facility for a presentation at next week's Design Commission meeting. It has renderings, maps, words and more words and whatnot.

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=286648
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2017, 12:22 AM
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Looks like a special called meeting scheduled for the 26th. Who knows what they'll be discussing but it's probably not aviation related.

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=286695
Two things going on the 26th at the airport? Or is this the presser with the mayor and council members present.
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