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Old Posted Jul 7, 2014, 7:53 PM
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some pics of the lower east stand and south east patio i snapped today.

not sure if they can get this operational on time. lower east side is basically still mud, never mind concessions.

the supports and frame of the scoreboard are going in and it looks HUGE. Can't wait to see the finished product.

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Old Posted Jul 7, 2014, 8:25 PM
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2014, 8:25 PM
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official. according to scott radley's twitter stadium won't be ready for the july 26th and july 31st games
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2014, 8:28 PM
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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

You know this wouldn't have been a problem if.... uhhhh... nevermind.
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2014, 8:44 PM
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I am in complete shock and disbelief.
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2014, 9:00 PM
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/n...e-ready-for-first-ticats-games-1.2699091

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Ontario Sports Solutions, the consortium building the stadium, will pay the Tiger-Cats $1 million for each missed home game.

Ontario taxpayers are “not responsible for additional costs related to the completion of the project,” IO said in a Monday afternoon media release. Instead, Ontario Sports Solutions pays.

The agency is “disappointed that construction of the stadium will not be completed for the start of the football season,” IO said in the release.

“We are determined to make sure that the stadium is completed by Ontario Sports Solutions and that the public interest is protected.”

The stadium is more than 85-per cent complete, IO said.

In the July 26 game, the Tiger-Cats will face off against the Ottawa REDBLACKS. The July 31 game is against the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

The missed opportunity will not only be felt in Hamilton, but by the entire league.

ESPN's main network was scheduled to carry the July 31 game at the Ticats new stadium, hosting the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. It was scheduled to be the first CFL game played on the main ESPN network under the five-year deal minted between the sports giant the CFL at the end of June.
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Statement from John McKendrick, executive vice-president of major projects at Infrastructure Ontario:

The Hamilton Stadium will be completed in 2014 well in advance of the 2015 Pan / ParaPan American Games. The stadium will be a world-class facility for the Games and a legacy that will benefit Hamilton over the long-term.

Ontario taxpayers are not responsible for additional costs related to the completion of the project. The private company, Ontario Sports Solutions, is responsible for building the stadium and is accountable for delivering the project.

Like many citizens and football fans, we are disappointed that construction of the stadium will not be completed for the start of the football season. We are determined to make sure that the stadium is completed by Ontario Sports Solutions and that the public interest is protected.

The stadium project is over 85% complete, and Infrastructure Ontario will continue to work with all partners to ensure the project gets done.
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Statement from the city:

Following a meeting today with all involved parties, the City of Hamilton has confirmed that the Tiger Cat home games scheduled for July 26th and July 31st will not take place at the new Pan Am Stadium (Tim Hortons Field) as the facility will not be safe and ready for occupancy by then. We will review the construction status again at the end of July and provide a further update at that time.

The City continues to work closely with Infrastructure Ontario, the contractors and our Ti-Cat partners to achieve the earliest possible delivery of the stadium to accommodate future football games.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2014, 3:49 AM
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I was wrong to believe the official timeline that the builder had promised. Hopefully we're watching a game there on August 16, but if it's Labour Day I'll be happy with that. I hope it's not a longer wait, but who knows...

For those that don't venture on the Canada forum (or theSpec.com), I linked this there. The Spectator posted this today, obviously filmed before official announcement of the delay.
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Old Posted Jul 8, 2014, 11:34 AM
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I think what is most disappointing to me is that they had scheduled the July 31 game to air live on the main ESPN channel. Such a rare thing and it would have been fun to learn about American reactions to the game.
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Is anyone actually surprised by this?

You know this wouldn't have been a problem if.... uhhhh... nevermind.
Read my mind...
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Old Posted Jul 9, 2014, 7:12 PM
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With the construction company having to pay the Ticats $1mil penalty per home game missed due to construction delays, I bet anyone who has had possession of their newly constructed home delayed like this would wish they had this kind of 'problem'.
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A home that you didn't even pay for. Wait a second...this is amazing news for the Ti-Cats!
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Old Posted Jul 10, 2014, 1:38 PM
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Exactly. The longer it takes to finish, the more the builder is subsidizing the Ticats' already meager contribution to the construction costs. It's a shame the city didn't think to include a clause like that for themselves as well.

Personally, I really don't care how long it takes to get finished, as long as it is completed in time for its role as the CIBC Pan Am Stadium one year from today.


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With the construction company having to pay the Ticats $1mil penalty per home game missed due to construction delays, I bet anyone who has had possession of their newly constructed home delayed like this would wish they had this kind of 'problem'.
A deal is a deal. And I hardly think that this is some kind of windfall for the Tiger-Cats.
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Old Posted Jul 11, 2014, 1:48 PM
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Well - look what I found - one of the losing designs for Tim Horton's Field/Pan Am Soccer Stadium

http://www.regionalarchitects.com/project/2015-pan-american-games-soccer-stadium

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rA and pA were selected as part of Bird Construction and Turner Construction’s Design-Build team for the design and delivery of the 2015 Pan American Games Soccer Stadium in Hamilton, Ontario. The new 22,500-seat stadium will replace the legendary Ivor Wynne Stadium and serve as a soccer venue during the games and as the new home for the Hamilton Tiger Cats football team following the games. The stadium sits within Hamilton’s Stipley neighbourhood, long recognized as a strong working-class neighbourhood with a dense fabric of single-family homes but lacking in parks and services.

Our team were responsible for planning the approach to site including: stadium orientation, circulation, community integration, landscape architectural design and the design of ancillary structures on the site. Special attention was paid to ensure the site could be used during off-game times for the Hamilton-Wentworth School Board use, and community special events and concerts. We were also responsible for planning the deployment of the Pan Am Games Overlay program, the temporary construction and facilities required for the Games on the site. The submission was completed in joint-venture with Populous and Kasian Architecture.










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Old Posted Jul 11, 2014, 1:54 PM
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Ugh it has endzone seating. Looks more like a complete stadium.
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Old Posted Jul 11, 2014, 4:24 PM
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Having end zone seating makes such a big difference. It turns it from a pair of grand stands into a "proper stadium."
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2014, 2:33 AM
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^I tend to agree, though in this case, those endzone seats seems really detached from the rest of the stadium and the field > they would be terrible seats.

The present stadium plan doesn't have any big tigers, does it? I-WANT-A-BIG-TIGER!

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I would have been fine with that design. I do really like the concourse wrapping around the south end, though for the present day capacity needs I think we're better with the grandstand seating on the sides and not the endzone - that can be added later if there's a business case.

I'm not sure there would have been as much room for temporary seating for the Grey Cup. In the renders, it looks like there's no space on the Beechwood end and the concourse might have made adding seats more difficult on the south. It's not as important as regular use of course, but adding capacity for big events is a consideration.

In the long run, assuming the Cats eventually do invest money into this place (like they should have, aside from the $5 mill Young is pumping in for team facilities and gameday toys) we may see some of the same elements added.
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Pan Am Games hampered by facility delays
(Toronto Star, Jennifer Pagliaro, July 13 2014)

Regardless of whether it’s built yet, the Games will come.

While Pan Am Games officials take to podiums and send press releases to declare that all 25 venues across the GTA will be ready on time — and under budget — the on-the-ground realities one year out from the opening ceremony are already starting to derail.

Just this week, new Minister of Sport Michael Coteau admitted the provincial government can’t guarantee the event will be on budget.

A massive $600-million construction project has been underway since the fall of 2012, involving 10 new complexes and several major retrofitting and upgrades to existing facilities.

However, completion of some buildings has lagged, holding up test events, while slow progress at a few smaller venues has had an impact on local businesses.

Construction delays have already marred what was to be the Hamilton Tiger-Cats’ big CFL homecoming at a new 22,500-seat stadium. Two games have been pushed to the nearby McMaster University campus with no official word on when the stadium will be ready.

The CFL game would have served as an important test event to work out any issues before the venue — which is hosting soccer — was cast into the international spotlight for the Games....

Each venue’s construction contract has dates marked for substantial completion so test events can be held and volunteers can move in.

The date for Hamilton’s new soccer stadium has slipped from June 30 to early October — creating what organizers acknowledge is the most substantial setback so far.

The earlier date would have seen the stadium ready well ahead of the Hamilton Tiger-Cats’ home opener against the Ottawa Redblacks on July 26.

When it was clear progress was lagging, the City of Hamilton said the team would need a temporary occupancy permit just to play, but that the stadium would be ready for fans.

Just weeks out from the planned occupancy of Tim Hortons Field (formerly Ivor Wynne Stadium), there was no turf on the ground, no concessions or even finishings, according to Hamilton’s general manager of public works, Gerry Davis.

On July 7, the city announced both the home opener and a July 31 game would be moved because the stadium would “not be safe and ready for occupancy by then.”

The state of the facility appeared to be lagging more than anyone predicted.

Davis said the setback — which was caused by winter delays and a subcontractor in charge of masonry going bankrupt — was concerning. The city was hoping to welcome football fans home with some finesse. Now the city is on the hook to recoup any losses — estimated at $1 million per home game — incurred by the delays.

“There’s another hundred items on the list, I’m sure,” Davis told the Star last month. “We want it done.”

In an attempt to catch up, some communities are looking for new ways to meet deadlines.

Earlier this month, the City of Hamilton amended a bylaw to allow construction crews to work from 6 p.m. to midnight, seven days a week, to speed up the process.


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