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Jon Dalton · #1 Posted **Apr 11, 2015, 11:24 PM**

VIA said they might use this station but that was before they canned their Niagara Falls trains - the only ones that pass it. They would have to restart that service if they were to run any trains to Hamilton.

I think a Hamilton New York train would be amazing. In the heyday of passenger rail you could take a train there straight from the TH&B station. If via or amtrak could get their shit together there ought to be a market for an express Toronto - buffalo - Hamilton - New York route.

For the routes within Canada there are routes that could be extended from Aldershot to Hamilton at no inconvenience to existing customers. They don't like to have stops so close together but maybe they could make an exception. They won't want to cut out Aldershot because the Windsor and London trains have to use it.

thistleclub · #2 Posted **Apr 12, 2015, 4:14 PM**

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For the routes within Canada there are routes that could be extended from Aldershot to Hamilton at no inconvenience to existing customers. They don't like to have stops so close together but maybe they could make an exception. They won't want to cut out Aldershot because the Windsor and London trains have to use it.

VIA has stations in Grimsby, Aldershot, Oakville and Brampton which also serve as Amtrak's Toronto-NYC route stops. VIA's stations seem to be set around 30 minutes apart on average. It's hard to imagine VIA launching service at James North without terminating it at Aldershot. Maybe a 1,700-vehicle parking facility would sweeten the pot.

VIA service to the James North Station ended in 1992. Aldershot GO opened that year, with Burlington, Hamilton and Dundas VIA services grouped at that station.

GO train service to the James North Station ended in February 1993. Hunter GO was opened in April 1996.

thmx · #3 Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 3:25 PM**

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Hawrylyshyn · #4 Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 3:41 PM**

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What's the building being made on the right? (Currently steel beams only)

thmx · #5 Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 4:25 PM**

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What's the building being made on the right? (Currently steel beams only)

That's the entrance to the station from the Bay Street bridge. You can see it in the background of this rendering:

Hamilton's James Street North GO Station - Final Rendering by Metrolinx, on Flickr

There will be a small walkway connecting that building to the sidewalk of the Bay Street bridge, just like this one on the MacNab Street bridge:

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Dr Awesomesauce · #6 Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 11:47 PM**

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That's one h*ll of a retaining wall. Love it.

drpgq · #7 Posted **Apr 27, 2015, 5:21 PM**

Has there been any confirmation yet of service after the Pan Ams? Seems like we're getting pretty close.

Hawrylyshyn · #8 Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 4:39 PM**

Ah okay thanks. I wasn't aware that there was another entrance/bridge being built on that side

king10 · #9 Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 5:50 PM**

So what exactly do they plan on having completed in time for the Pan Ams?

Looks like it'll be the tracks, get off the train and take some temporary scaffolding stairs to bay street lol.

matt602 · #10 Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 8:05 PM**

Pretty sure that'll be about it. The Macnab stairs might be finished in time but obviously the Bay stairs won't be. Probably only one track where the platform is being constructed currently.

Dr Awesomesauce · #11 Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 11:44 PM**

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realcity · #12 Posted **Apr 29, 2015, 4:27 PM**

Is this to be done by PanAm?

king10 · #13 Posted **Apr 29, 2015, 7:11 PM**

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Is this to be done by PanAm?

"operational" by the Pan Ams. Aka a track and platform. Doubt anything else is completed. But you never know, exactly 100 days till the games. Over 3 months.

EDIT: made a mistake exactly 100 days to the parapan am games. Pan ams are couple weeks before.

matt602 · #14 Posted **Apr 29, 2015, 10:40 PM**

Miracles do happen but the province is in charge of both the stadium and the station, and we see how the stadium turned out. As I posted before, I'm expecting one platform and track, a stairway, a temporary ticket trailer and some slapped together presto machines on the platform.

Realistically though I don't think anything more than that is needed for just the Pan-Am games. The majority of people coming to Hamilton for events will probably just drive anyway instead of taking a train from Toronto and then local transit that they're not familiar with or a shuttle bus to THF.

Berklon · #15 Posted **Apr 29, 2015, 11:14 PM**

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Realistically though I don't think anything more than that is needed for just the Pan-Am games. The majority of people coming to Hamilton for events will probably just drive anyway instead of taking a train from Toronto and then local transit that they're not familiar with or a shuttle bus to THF.

That's kind of embarrassing as it is. Train dropping off people from Toronto to a very barebones and unfinished station, where they'll then have to take local transit to get to the actual stadium. Doesn't sound all that enticing.

king10 · #16 Posted **Apr 30, 2015, 2:08 AM**

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That's kind of embarrassing as it is. Train dropping off people from Toronto to a very barebones and unfinished station, where they'll then have to take local transit to get to the actual stadium. Doesn't sound all that enticing.

The plan was always to take local transit to the stadium. Did they expect a limo to pick them up lol. If you take the UP express into union you still need to take public transit to other sporting venues. Maple leaf gardens, bmo field.

It wouldve been nice to be completed on time. But it is what it is. Construction of a new multi million dollar go station isnt emabrassing IMO. Some of these countries that have hosted the pan am games no doubt have much more embarrasing things to hide than an under construction train station.

Not to mention ppl from toronto know a thing or two about train station construction... Union station and front street has been under construction for years. Im sure they'll sympathize with us.

Berklon · #17 Posted **Apr 30, 2015, 2:41 AM**

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The plan was always to take local transit to the stadium. Did they expect a limo to pick them up lol. If you take the UP express into union you still need to take public transit to other sporting venues. Maple leaf gardens, bmo field.

There's a difference between taking local public transit to the events and taking a 75 minute train ride to another city and THEN having to still take that cities local transit to get to the event. I know a few Torontonians who expressed some interest in the soccer games and were actually turned off when they found out the train didn't take them straight to the stadium. It may not seem like a big deal to you - but it does annoy people.

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Not to mention ppl from toronto know a thing or two about train station construction... Union station and front street has been under construction for years. Im sure they'll sympathize with us.

Except Union Station's construction is huge and happening while still trying to serve 250,000 passengers a day - so it was a necessary long-term pain and is totally understandable. . This James North station is very small scale without the constraints and should've been fully completed by the games since we knew well in advance that we were going to host some games. Again, it may not seem like a big deal to you - but outsiders will have a negative perception.

You're right, it is what it is - and we really can't do anything about it now. Just saying that these things will put the city in a bad light. I won't even start on the parking location for the stadium (if it's still going to be where I last heard).

realcity · #18 Posted **Apr 30, 2015, 7:40 AM**

We're going to look like such a joke. And I refuse to call it a 'stadium' anymore. It's not a stadium by today's standards, Tim Hortons was right to call it a 'field'.

king10 · #19 Posted **Apr 30, 2015, 12:58 PM**

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We're going to look like such a joke. And I refuse to call it a 'stadium' anymore. It's not a stadium by today's standards, Tim Hortons was right to call it a 'field'.

I don't see the issue with it? I'd much rather have our tax dollar spent on crumbling roads and infastructure and healthcare than build a $500 million stadium to be used by a pro team 10 times a year. BMO field and isn't anything better than THF and thats what Toronto will use as its main outdoor venue. Not to mention York stadium has one of the biggest events in track and field and more than half of the stadium is temporary stands and port a poties(not to mention a capacity of 12 500 is ridiculously small for track and field). That's more embarassing than THF IMO.

I'm happy we aren't like the States sinking Billions of dollars into pro stadium for private owners.

HillStreetBlues · #20 Posted **Apr 30, 2015, 1:50 PM**

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BMO field and isn't anything better than THF and thats what Toronto will use as its main outdoor venue..

I disagree with this: BMO Field is a great soccer venue, and the new Ivor Wynne will not compare. But BMO Field hosts a major-league soccer team and has a market of many other events, neither which is the case for Ivor Wynne. I agree with your other points, and am pleased we are not pouring money into a splashy stadium with a poor business case. The new stadium will serve the Ti Cats well, but not be used for much else.

I’m not really sure what all the hubbub is about: as the people who have built the field have pointed out, the Ti Cats have played there several times, so how “incomplete” can it be?