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[rivernorthlurker]

Says O'Hare expansion completion delayed 2 years

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/airl...erhaul-delayed

Anyone have the full article? Thought the first satellite terminal though I think is supposed to open next summer IIRC.

Is there a separate O'Hare thread for the expansion?

[OhioGuy]

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker

Is there a separate O'Hare thread for the expansion?

There is an O'Hare & Midway thread in the Transportation forum.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87889

[left of center]

Originally Posted by F1 Tommy

I really don't expect anything from a NY based newspaper to have positive articles on Chicago.

Case in point, the NYT released an article about how Chicago will be under water due to global warming and rising lake levels. Ignoring the fact that the 5 boroughs are at extreme danger of rising sea levels, and the fact that the massive system of man made locks are in place to keep lake levels where they are and can be opened to help alleviate future flooding. But you knooooow....

If more funds are needed for the OPL, the Obamas have a massive nationwide fundraising network they can tap into. I am not too worried, and I'm sure the Obamas aren't either.

[galleyfox]

Originally Posted by left of center

Case in point, the NYT released an article about how Chicago will be under water due to global warming and rising lake levels. Ignoring the fact that the 5 boroughs are at extreme danger of rising sea levels, and the fact that the massive system of man made locks are in place to keep lake levels where they are and can be opened to help alleviate future flooding. But you knooooow....

If more funds are needed for the OPL, the Obamas have a massive nationwide fundraising network they can tap into. I am not too worried, and I'm sure the Obamas aren't either.

That was an epic reporting fail.

NYC publications spent a full month saying that Chicago was going to be swamped by Lake Michigan and floods.

Couldn’t be bothered to warn their own city a few weeks later that excessive hurricane rains can drown people in their basements because of NYC’s poor drainage infrastructure.


But seeing as the main source of this article is Friends of the Parking Lots, there is probably lots of the grasping of straws regarding the “so-called evidence”

[ardecila]

Originally Posted by galleyfox

That was an epic reporting fail.

NYC publications spent a full month saying that Chicago was going to be swamped by Lake Michigan and floods.

Couldn’t be bothered to warn their own city a few weeks later that excessive hurricane rains can drown people in their basements because of NYC’s poor drainage infrastructure.

The WSJ piece about the Obama Center is biased ideological garbage, but I didn't have a problem with the NYT piece about Lake Michigan.

It's the kind of journalism we should have in Chicago, but our papers don't have the resources to pay someone to fact-check politicians and the MWRD/Army Corps.

Because the impacts of climate change on Chicago are more distant and abstract, there's a lot of complacency here which is dangerous. We may get off better than the coasts, but we won't be unscathed. We need to do our own climate proofing just like other parts of the country. Instead all we get is Deep Tunnel and the Army Corps' lakefront rebuild, which are still solving 1970s problems, not 2020s or 2030s problems.

[F1 Tommy]

Originally Posted by ardecila

The WSJ piece about the Obama Center is biased ideological garbage, but I didn't have a problem with the NYT piece about Lake Michigan.

It's the kind of journalism we should have in Chicago, but our papers don't have the resources to pay someone to fact-check politicians and the MWRD/Army Corps.

Because the impacts of climate change on Chicago are more distant and abstract, there's a lot of complacency here which is dangerous. We may get off better than the coasts, but we won't be unscathed. We need to do our own climate proofing just like other parts of the country. Instead all we get is Deep Tunnel and the Army Corps' lakefront rebuild, which are still solving 1970s problems, not 2020s or 2030s problems.

Chicago is 666 feet above sea level. They are more worried about Lake Michigan levels dropping than going up to flood stage.

[ardecila]

Originally Posted by F1 Tommy

Chicago is 666 feet above sea level. They are more worried about Lake Michigan levels dropping than going up to flood stage.

I never said Lake Michigan was going to continue rising. But we will see some effects of climate change, so we'd better start studying/modeling the local effects at our universities, and designing projects to prepare for those imapcts. Instead we are still spending billions on Deep Tunnel so some homeowners in the Bungalow Belt don't get flooded basements.

[Chi-Sky21]

it's all good, i hear we are shipping all our water out west to help them. 8)

[Busy Bee]

Pretty sure there talking more about future increases in storm surges than actual sea level rise.

[BrinChi]

Lake Superior is also about 25 feet higher in elevation than the Michigan-Huron basin. There are the Soo Locks for boats to move between them, and they also use this channel to regulate the flow of water from Superior into Michigan-Huron. I think there was some controversy a couple years ago when they were releasing water and Michigan-Huron approached its record level.

[rivernorthlurker]

Yeah I recall years back (talking like 2012) when Lake Michigan was near 50 year lows (see above) that the lake was so low. This had to do with climate change! Now it's really high, because of climate change!? Or the increased variance now has to do with climate change... etc.

If it gets too high can't we just increase the flow through the locks and send it over the falls into the St Lawrence? Also it's freshwater, worst case we build another canal and send it into Iowa for some farmland.

Too high doesn't doesn't seem like a problem at all, it's the too low (see out west) is a real problem.

[twister244]

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker

Yeah I recall years back (talking like 2012) when Lake Michigan was near 50 year lows (see above) that the lake was so low. This had to do with climate change! Now it's really high, because of climate change!? Or the increased variance now has to do with climate change... etc.

If it gets too high can't we just increase the flow through the locks and send it over the falls into the St Lawrence? Also it's freshwater, worst case we build another canal and send it into Iowa for some farmland.

Too high doesn't doesn't seem like a problem at all, it's the too low (see out west) is a real problem.

I suspect it's climate change creating more variance. Feast or famine (like what we saw all over the world this Summer). When it's hot and dry, it's really hot and dry. When it's wet, it's really wet. So you are going to see these dramatic swings.....

If you look at CA, yes they are in a massive drought, but all it takes is a series of Pineapple Express events in a single winter to fill all of the reservoirs back up and then some. Remember a few years back (2017?) when Oriville overfilled with flood damage? There was insane record snowfall in the Sierra Nevada mountains.

Higher temperatures mean more evaporation off the lake and less ice. But it also means the air holds much more water than can come down as precipitation.

[Steely Dan]

USNWR is out with their 2022-2023 university rankings.

below are the 37 "national universities" in the midwest that made the top 200 nationally.

(private schools are bolded, and catholic schools are also italicized)


#6. University of Chicago - chicago
#10. Northwestern University - evanston
#15. Washington University - st. louis
#18. University of Notre Dame - south bend
#23. University of Michigan - ann arbor

#38. University of Wisconsin - madison
#41. University of Illinois - champaign
#44. Case Western Reserve University - cleveland
#49. Ohio State University - columbus
#51. Purdue University - west lafayette

#62. University of Minnesota - minneapolis
#72. Indiana University - bloomington
#83. Marquette University - milwaukee
#83. Michigan State University - east lansing
#83. University of Iowa - iowa city

#97. University of Illinois Chicago - chicago
#105. Miami University - oxford
#105. St. Louis University - st. louis
#115. Creighton University - omaha
#115. Loyola University Chicago - chicago

#121. University of Kansas - lawrence
#121. University of Missouri - columbia
#127. Illinois Institute of Technology - chicago
#127. Iowa State University - ames
#127. University of Dayton - dayton

#137. Depaul University - chicago
#137. Drake University - des moines
#137. University of St. Thomas - st. paul
#151. Michigan Technological University - houhgton
#151. University of Cincinnati - cincinnati

#151. University of Nebraska - lincoln
#166. Bradley University - peoria
#166. Kansas State University - manhattan
#166. Xavier University - cincinnati
#176. Valparaiso Univeristy - valparaiso

#182. Missouri University of Science and Technology - rolla
#182. Ohio University - athens


with 6 schools on this list, chicago once again does very well relative to the rest of the midwest.

and i believe this is the first year ever that UIC has cracked the top 100 nationally on USNWR's annual ranking, making it the highest ranked public university in the midwest outside of the Big 10 on this list.

not too shabby at all for a modern-era "from-scratch" splinter university once named after an expressway interchange.

[jpIllInoIs]

I remember some data where Chicago is the top 1 or 2 landing places for grads from so many Universities from the Midwest including probably most of these schools from Steely's list..

Agreed Steely that UIC is on an incredible rise to prominence.

Kinda surprised Bradley University in Peoria isn't on the list. Similar to U of Dayton and Drake. Maybe the need a better media/PR dept.

Minor side bar: Notre dame does offer an Executive MBA in the Santa Fe Building on Michigan Ave.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by jpIllInoIs

Kinda surprised Bradley University in Peoria isn't on the list. Similar to U of Dayton and Drake. Maybe the need a better media/PR dept.

Bradley fell just off the original list at #166, so not terribly different ranking-wise from UofDayton or Drake.


i've now edited the original list to include all midwest universities ranked in the top 200.

[Handro]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

with 6 schools on this list, chicago once again does very well relative to the rest of the midwest. and i believe this is the first year ever that UIC has cracked the top 100 nationally on USNWR's annual ranking, making it the highest ranked public university in the midwest outside of the Big 10 on this list.

not too shabby for a modern-era "from-scratch" splinter university once named after an expressway interchange.

I've been keeping a close eye on UIC School of Law (formerly John Marshall). It's only been a few years since UIC took over the school but it seems to have been making some headway in becoming more nationally recognized--the rankings will follow. Would great to have even a Loyola-level public law school in the city.

[Steely Dan]

another cool feather in UIC's cap from this year's rankings:

UIC is 11th among top performers in social mobility, a category that measures the extent schools enrolled and graduated students who receive federal Pell grants, which are given to students whose total family incomes are less than $50,000 annually.

source: https://today.uic.edu/uic-rises-to-t...eges-rankings/


that's a pretty awesome distinction for actually making a difference!

you gotta wonder how many thousands upon thousand of people UIC has lifted up from lower/working class status over the decades.

[Chi-Sky21]

To high erodes the lakefront and beaches. Also if it is to high and we get a ton of rain we can't open the locks to relieve pressure on the river from rising to high in the downtown.

[left of center]

My alma mater has come a long way! Great to see its rise recognized. Even back in my day, the school was on a pretty evident upswing, academically. I started in 2002 in the College of Business, and the minimum ACT score to get in was 16. When I graduated in 2006, the minimum had risen significantly, to 22. While I don't think schools care much about college entrance exam scores anymore, the raising of educational standards was very much in motion back then and very evidently has continued in the 16 years I have graduated (damn, I feel old!).

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by left of center

My alma mater has come a long way! Great to see its rise recognized. Even back in my day, the school was on a pretty evident upswing, academically. I started in 2002 in the College of Business, and the minimum ACT score to get in was 16. When I graduated in 2006, the minimum had risen significantly, to 22. While I don't think schools care much about college entrance exam scores anymore, the raising of educational standards was very much in motion back then and very evidently has continued in the 16 years I have graduated (damn, I feel old!).

UIC has also benefited from a substantial, $750+ million increase in their endowment, even though it's only been in the past 2-3 years.