Mobile Development Thread - Page 227

Port_of_Bama · #**4521** Posted **Sep 29, 2009, 6:21 PM**

What`s a Nielson DMA ?

WEMO · #**4522** Posted **Sep 29, 2009, 6:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by SouthSky

I think we're put at a disadvantage because Baldwin county is the largest county in the state and among the top in the eastern US and that the population can be connected to metro areas or other smaller cities that are in fact closer than Mobile (thus no commuting). Think of eastern and southern Baldwin being closer to Pensacola and northern Baldwin being quite a good ways from Mobile.

I guess it all plays into the fact that Mobile is dead in the middle of the central Gulf Coast possible megalopolis that is cannibalizing metro population numbers and after combination blows out every metro in the area other than maybe Birmingham or New Orleans.

Mobile's Nielsen DMA is ~1.5 million... and that doesn't even include the Gulfport/Biloxi area.

Maybe in the future it will change. I am ready for a bigger number myself..

Port_of_Bama · #**4523** Posted **Sep 30, 2009, 5:17 AM**

I am as well WEMO its not fair at all. Washington County should have been included a long time ago as well as our 3 Mississippi neighbors. I could very much well give our MSA with Escambia,Washington,and Baldwin counties included around 635 K and as far as CSA goes our three Mississippi neighbors should be included because Mississippi to me is West Mobile.With our three neighbors included Mobile`s 7 county CSA(Mobile,Baldwin,Washington,Escambia,Jackson,Greene,and George County) should be around 803 K give or take.

Sulley · #**4524** Posted **Sep 30, 2009, 12:59 PM**

I don't think it matters how big a metro is, does it?

SouthSky · #**4525** Posted **Sep 30, 2009, 6:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by DallasTexan

I don't think it matters how big a metro is, does it?

It matters little in the long run but businesses certainly look at metro numbers for potential customers.

SpawnOfVulcan · #**4526** Posted **Oct 1, 2009, 5:24 AM**

It only matters if the correct amount of people commute to the core county to fill the definition of a metro area... Otherwise we're just adding counties to metro areas just willynilly and before we know it BOOM! Birmingham metro has grown by 2 million!

SpawnOfVulcan · #**4527** Posted **Oct 5, 2009, 7:29 PM**

Apparently, Mobile and the Senior Bowl are close to signing a 9 year deal

http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/official_senior_bowl_mobile_po.html

SouthSky · #**4528** Posted **Oct 5, 2009, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Alabadrock

Apparently, Mobile and the Senior Bowl are close to signing a 9 year deal

http://blog.al.com/live/2009/10/official_senior_bowl_mobile_po.html

Just in time to build a new stadium.

Hey Birmingham... want to send that dome down here (after you pay for it of course)?

Port_of_Bama · #**4529** Posted **Oct 6, 2009, 2:20 AM**

Yes it gives us enough time to build a new stadium or expand Ladd.

SpawnOfVulcan · #**4530** Posted **Oct 6, 2009, 2:51 AM**

Of course, expansion of the Ladd or replacement might be part of the deal. I'm hoping it is.

NitekKetin · #**4531** Posted **Oct 6, 2009, 2:52 AM**

^....and let funding for the design and construction not come from the public.

SpawnOfVulcan · #**4532** Posted **Oct 6, 2009, 2:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by NitekKetin

^....and let funding for the design and construction not come from the public.

If none of the money was to come from the public, it would never happen. The Senior Bowl. Plus, if the city/county didn't contribute to the stadium financially, the public would have no say or ownership in the stadium design or use.

Electrical Porpoise · #**4533** Posted **Oct 6, 2009, 5:11 AM**

We seriously do not need to throw another dollar into Ladd. It is kind of sad to me due to it's history - but no matter how many band-aids you put on the ole lady she is still going to look like a a clump of steel in a poor part of the city.

We should tear down the hellhole that is the mall and recycle all of the materials. That should save us a few bucks.

pboo74 · #**4534** Posted **Oct 7, 2009, 8:41 PM**

I agree we need not to put any more money into ladd stadium,What i said before in previous post is to put a stadium downtown and over where orange groove projects were torn down would be a perfect spot..That would rejuvenate that part of town as well as looking in the back ground an seeing the skyline,and bring alot of business downtown have high school football games,USA home games,and other bowl games as well?

NitekKetin · #**4535** Posted **Oct 7, 2009, 9:38 PM**

I always liked the idea of a stadium, boutique hotel and small entertainment district in Orange Grove. Although it will never be constructed, it could serve as a catalyst for a rejuvenated Water Street commercial corridor. Everything would be constructed on piers and pilings.

Port_of_Bama · #**4536** Posted **Oct 7, 2009, 11:09 PM**

That would be a nice development for the Orange Grove area. If this stadium will be hosting all of these bowl games and South`s future SEC schedule they will need to build a 70- 80 k arena.

SpawnOfVulcan · #**4537** Posted **Oct 8, 2009, 4:05 AM**

South's future SEC schedule? I hope you're not implying that USA would become part of the SEC... though, if you're simply saying that it would need to prepare to simply host SEC schools for the occasional game, then I def agree.

Troy is getting prepared to host the first SEC school to visit its campus in 2010 I believe. So, I say that whatever Movie Gallery Stadium's capacity is or greater would be adequate. Though, I think we would all like one that's larger than that...

Port_of_Bama · #**4538** Posted **Oct 8, 2009, 6:20 AM**

Yes ,South is scheduled to play SEC schools in 2012. Ladd holds around 45 K and the Senior and GMAC bowls were both threatening to leave because the stadium is too small. The last 2 South Alabama games at Ladd have been near capacity and that`s with all USA fans. Mobile in my opinion is more of a football city than any of the big four,I havn`t seen a UAB game as packed as South`s. To successfuly host the Senior and GMAC bowl we will need a 70K arena/staduim. Whith local support(fans) in 2012 when we play SEC schools we will deffinintly need a stadium of that size. Which is really Ladd Staduim with a small second level not really that much bigger than Ladd. Being from Mobile I have seen highschool rivalries nearly almost brought out 15-25 K fans !!

Dyingyak · #**4539** Posted **Oct 8, 2009, 1:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Port_of_Bama

Yes ,South is scheduled to play SEC schools in 2012. Ladd holds around 45 K and the Senior and GMAC bowls were both threatening to leave because the stadium is too small. The last 2 South Alabama games at Ladd have been near capacity and that`s with all USA fans. Mobile in my opinion is more of a football city than any of the big four,I havn`t seen a UAB game as packed as South`s. To successfuly host the Senior and GMAC bowl we will need a 70K arena/staduim. Whith local support(fans) in 2012 when we play SEC schools we will deffinintly need a stadium of that size. Which is really Ladd Staduim with a small second level not really that much bigger than Ladd. Being from Mobile I have seen highschool rivalries nearly almost brought out 15-25 K fans !!

Wait a few years and see how the South program evolves...then see how many people will come to games. One of UAB's major problems with increasing attendance is the performance of the team.

Mobile's location is also much improved to draw in football fan's as well. Birmingham is situated close enough to both Tuscaloosa and Auburn that they will draw their fans leaving Birmingham with a smaller audience to watch a game in person.

Port_of_Bama · #**4540** Posted **Oct 8, 2009, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dyingyak

Wait a few years and see how the South program evolves...then see how many people will come to games. One of UAB's major problems with increasing attendance is the performance of the team.

Mobile's location is also much improved to draw in football fan's as well. Birmingham is situated close enough to both Tuscaloosa and Auburn that they will draw their fans leaving Birmingham with a smaller audience to watch a game in person.

I agree Mobile`s location is an advantage.