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Old Posted Apr 23, 2008, 5:39 PM
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I'd also like to say thanks to ColoPrecaster for his informative discussion and to Ecker for the great pics. I really like this building, I always have. The pictures of the facade going up are more reassurance to me that this building will look very good in its context here. (Tom's point is well taken that this is about the only neighborhood this building would work in). From the images across the street, it really does look like limestone.

I also think the critism of L. Lagrange really is without merit. He is an accomplished architect and his designs do the best he can to achieve that reproduction look within the budget. I have a good friend who is a very talented architect who gets awful reviews for his projects that he does for a specific developer. Why? because the developer value engineers any real redeeming qualities out of the design and materials. When given a larger budget (like this Elysian project) then more of the true talent and vision can shine through.

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Hadn't seen an update in a while, grabbed some photos while I was in the area.















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Old Posted May 8, 2008, 8:45 PM
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I'm sorry. I would hate to lose any respect that I have, but

I like park tower, and I like elysian
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Old Posted May 8, 2008, 8:53 PM
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I think this tower is going to be great and the stonework looks great too even if its not real. I especially like the small building that is not yet complete in front of the main tower, I really like the old look to the roof, it will be pretty good looking I believe.
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Old Posted May 8, 2008, 9:15 PM
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Yeah, I like glass, and I like steel, but its nice to see a "stone" building go up too. I hope there are more buildings going up like this in the future.
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Old Posted May 8, 2008, 9:40 PM
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It looks decent near the base. Thats all that matters right now sinc ethats all you;ll see from street level. I think its a good start. Also, I like the height of this one in this area, it helps in really thickening the skyline west of the Hancock. Overall, I think it will be a good addition to this part of the city. Thanks for the photos.
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It would be nice if they re-coated the precast to look a bit more aged, adding very slight nuances of darker tones on each false stone panel to make it look a bit more authentic

My firm did work on a precast concrete apartment tower and used this treatment and it looked really really nice. I know it would work for Elysian and it might please more people not quite happy with the precast.
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Old Posted May 11, 2008, 4:26 AM
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^ Faux soot? Groovy.
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Old Posted May 11, 2008, 4:32 AM
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It would be nice if they re-coated the precast to look a bit more aged...
I like this idea as well.
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For those of us not well versed in the academics of architecture, what "style" or "era" would you call this building? I really like it, just looks kinda elegant (even taking away if one doesn't like the facade). Looks more like a home to me or something...can't really describe it. Hope there is more.
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^ Faux soot? Groovy.
well, it is a faux building for faux people by a faux architect so why not?
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Old Posted May 11, 2008, 4:19 PM
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^^^ And critiqued by faux critics...
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Old Posted May 11, 2008, 4:21 PM
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^ And, basically, all of the "real" critics too.

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For those of us not well versed in the academics of architecture, what "style" or "era" would you call this building? I really like it, just looks kinda elegant (even taking away if one doesn't like the facade). Looks more like a home to me or something...can't really describe it. Hope there is more.
LaGrange works in a pseudo-Second Empire revival style (if you don't know the Second Empire style, think of the parts of Paris that all the tourists flock to). In the glory days of skyscraper building, the French Second Empire style was applied to some highrises, such as the Blackstone Hotel on South Michigan Avenue, much to the disgust of people like Louis Sullivan and Frank Lloyd Wright. LaGrange is obviously emulating this kind of design. I say "pseudo" because the ornamentation, form, materials, and proportion of his buildings are totally out of line with what made those buildings elegant.

One day, LaGrange woke up and realized that he could play off of his French origins and SOM background to produce "Frenchy" new highrises that have a lot of the efficiency of an SOM tower, dolled-up with some of the design trappings of old France. So, here you have it, a random hodge-podge of stuff that is vaguely French in inspiration and looks a lot more like Chicago design gone completely wrong.

Meanwhile, there are tons of amazing new architects in France (Jean Nouvel, for example, or Jean-Paul Viguier who gave us the Hotel Sofitel - still the best building of the latest Boom in my opinion) that LaGrange could be emulating if he wanted to bring a taste of the best of France to America. Instead, he is stuck producing degraded photocopies of a design movement 150 years old.

Sorry, I don't mean to sound so negative since you like the building and I am honestly trying to answer your question, but my distaste for this kind of design approach is hard to muffle.
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Nice summary of everything so wrong with this tower. I also agree about the importance of the Viguier tower.
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^^^ I completely agree, but I just like razzing Adrian for his radical opinions...

Nothing too personal Adrian!
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Jean-Paul Viguier who gave us the Hotel Sofitel - still the best building of the latest Boom in my opinion)
A-men. Why go "deliberately-faux-French" when a superb example of the real deal is but a couple blocks away?

I don't feel quite so negatively about Elysian as you, but I think you articulate well the basis of the general eye-rolling by the architectural community at the stuff LaGrange churns out.

Though ultimately, LaGrange is just giving The (Rich) People what they want.
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Old Posted May 12, 2008, 5:02 AM
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Old Posted May 12, 2008, 5:13 AM
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it will look nice , especially at night with the silloulette, but if your going to bitch ,this is not the building, what about the crap they are building behind the trib.... blah blah hicup.
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Smile 2nd update online!

Hiya guys,

Its May and time for my 2nd update video for this nice looking tower:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiPCFWY58p4

Enjoy

Music: Schiller feat. Xavier Naidoo - Sehnsucht (which means Longing or Yearning in english)

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^^^ And critiqued by faux critics...
Touche.
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