Hamilton International Airport

[HAMRetrofit]

^exactly

As an outsider the answer to Hamilton's employment problems is so apparent

Jane Jacobs says it best, 'cities grow by grace of import replacement'.

'Import replacement occurs in the regions surrounding a city where goods and services are brought in, their Hinterlands.'

[Hammer Town]

We Need to get these lands serviced ASAP we needs these employment alnds and these jobs. This Peak Oil stuff is rubbish ya Oil is going up but that doesn't mean that companies are going to stop shipping items around the world via aircraft. Saying companies are going to stop using aircraft to ship goods is like says people are going to resort back to Horse and Buggie. Beside aircraft are becoming more fuel effciant all the time.

Some companies are fine with Brownfeild development but some require new space even more so beside an airport.

[LikeHamilton]

I do not understand what the problem is with the lands that need to be designated as industrial.

In Hamilton;

We should never say no to any developer who needs land because we should have it all.
We have waterfront for those people who want it for transportation or just like the look of waterfront.
We have/should have Brownfield’s for the companies who like to be in built up older areas.
We have downtown/core lands and vacant buildings for developers and companies.
We have community areas that have lands and buildings available. Who care if they go to Waterdown, Ancaster, Stoney Creek or Ottawa Street so long as they build in or move to Hamilton?
We have existing industrial parks with vacant lands and buildings already built for rent.
We need more highway land for the companies that need and want that type of land.
We need airport land for the companies that need/want/like that type of lands.

We should be in a position to never say no to any developer/company that wants to come to Hamilton. Anyone who comes to Hamilton brings jobs and construction work to Hamilton. Even if it is just minimum wage jobs, that is better that welfare and unemployment.

[the dude]

Originally Posted by Hammer Town

We Need to get these lands serviced ASAP we needs these employment alnds and these jobs. This Peak Oil stuff is rubbish ya Oil is going up but that doesn't mean that companies are going to stop shipping items around the world via aircraft. Saying companies are going to stop using aircraft to ship goods is like says people are going to resort back to Horse and Buggie. Beside aircraft are becoming more fuel effciant all the time.

Some companies are fine with Brownfeild development but some require new space even more so beside an airport.

you might want to bone up on the whole peak oil topic. the US reached peak oil 35+ years ago and have been fighting for it ever since. we are fast approaching the day when demand outstrips supply worldwide. i won't get into the details of what happens next but feel free to read-up on the topic. geologists know it, oil execs know it. it's time for other people to face facts, too. besides, what have we been told would be the resulting employment on these lands? warehousing? please. i'll contain my excitement for now.

[the dude]

Originally Posted by LikeHamilton

I do not understand what the problem is with the lands that need to be designated as industrial.

In Hamilton;

We should never say no to any developer who needs land because we should have it all.
We have waterfront for those people who want it for transportation or just like the look of waterfront.
We have/should have Brownfield’s for the companies who like to be in built up older areas.
We have downtown/core lands and vacant buildings for developers and companies.
We have community areas that have lands and buildings available. Who care if they go to Waterdown, Ancaster, Stoney Creek or Ottawa Street so long as they build in or move to Hamilton?
We have existing industrial parks with vacant lands and buildings already built for rent.
We need more highway land for the companies that need and want that type of land.
We need airport land for the companies that need/want/like that type of lands.

We should be in a position to never say no to any developer/company that wants to come to Hamilton. Anyone who comes to Hamilton brings jobs and construction work to Hamilton. Even if it is just minimum wage jobs, that is better that welfare and unemployment.

unfortunately minimum wage isn't better than welfare. that's the problem.

[HAMRetrofit]

When warehouse or logistics facilities are built around the periphery of the city it initiates a large complex process of city economics. The jobs may seem irrelevant at first not creating influential economic activity. However they are connected to larger economic systems. For example if a storage warehouse is opened in the hinterlands it creates jobs for basic laborers. The functions of the warehouse are to store goods. These goods are imported from elsewhere. Overtime it becomes more economical to manufacture goods in the city, which in turn leads to more jobs in the periphery as more 'import replacers' move in. The result of this new import replacement is that jobs are created for the creative class (designers) and financial class (bankers), which typically happens in the core (downtown). These hinterlands need to be well connected to infrastructure because their primary goal is to exchange goods between the central city and other surrounding cities (this is what makes the highway 6 and 403 interchange ideal). Highways are the preferred shipping method and will be at least for the next 30 years until peak oil in Canada actually takes effect. Canada is a net oil producer and is not expected to peak in oil production until 2035 with the availability of the tar sands. Past Canada’s oil peak new energy infrastructures will be in place, which is already being planned for (this is obvious since the feds are already planning a new airport in Pickering). I am generalizing here but for a much more complete description of how the economics of cities work read Jane Jacobs 'Cities and the Wealth of Nations'. There are a few other books I could recommend but Cities and the Wealth of nations is the most fundamental.

[the dude]

that's fairly optimistic and clairvoyant but so be it. i'll never buy into aerotropolis because, knowing this city, the land will be serviced and losani will move in, put up some sh*t houses and we'll left shaking our heads...again. that's what i figure this is really all about. i also hate the idea of paving over the finest agricultural land in this country. it all seems a little backward to me.

[Hammer Town]

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[Hammer Town]

We might as well service these lands anyway and get some money out of them because if we run out of oil we are all screwed anyway so whats the differance.

[raisethehammer]

Originally Posted by fastcarsfreedom

May 11, 2006 in response to a discussion about airport terminal renovations/expansion...

that goofy little thing is what council wants to pin all our future job creation hopes on??? heaven help us.

I do recall that conversation...I also remember someone posting images of terminal buildings in London and Ottawa to which I replied I wish we would build something similar to theirs.
I also recall several others agreeing that our terminal is a joke.
If you can't even admit that the terminal building is lame then I understand more clearly why you think I'm negative.
Hop on a few flights to anywhere in the developed world and you'll have a hard time finding a terminal as pathetic as ours.
Forgive me for wishing we had something better.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Firstly, I would argue, your failure to recall a statement you made doesn't absolve you of it--though the world is filled with politicians who wish that were not the case.

Secondly, I would argue--our airport's terminal is far from pathetic. It could certainly be better, it could be larger, and there could be a wider array of service from YHM--I agree with you there. Folks who live closeby to the airport could also stop driving to Pearson when they could jst as conveniently and econmically fly from here, on the same airlines. I have discussed to the point of exhaustion that the airport was hamstrung by the Liberal government of the early 1980s who designed it to fail. In SPITE of that, it has grown, prospered and thrived. I believe there is also a hint of arrogance in your statements about seeing airports elsewhere in the developed world--I have seen, and used many--everything from the glorious piece of work in Pittsburgh, to the old Terminal 1 in Toronto when it was literally crumbling, to one in West Virigina that consisted of a USAir ticket counter in a trailer. The airport might not be as "pretty" as you'd like--but it doesn't cost you a dime as a taxpayer in Hamilton--and I bet there are a few people who fund the GTAA who think that idea sounds mighty attractive.

The airport is functional, useable and convenient. Your comments serve no purpose other than to function strictly as negativity. USING the airport is what will keep the airport growing, wishing for skylights and ficus trees won't get you anywhere.

[raisethehammer]

whew! I'm glad you cleared that up. Especially since I have no clue what a ficus tree is.
Let's call this the end of that little squabble. We both want a better terminal.
But apparently I'm not allowed to say so. Ok. I'm cool with that.

[Hammer Town]

Raisethehammer
What were you up there last?

[raisethehammer]

hmm...not sure to be honest.
I picked up my uncle last year. don't recall the month. I think it was spring.
so roughly a year ago. I didn't get through any gates though. Just the main area where anyone can go.
I fly out of there whenever possible, but my last few trips have been to Mexico, Colombia and Cuba....all from Pearson.

[fastcarsfreedom]

Okay, squabble ended.

Hopefully the list of destinations available this winter will indeed expand dramatically as Tradeport has indicated and that Globespan launches a winter program. If Tradeport can finally secure service to a big U.S. hub (ORD on United Express would be perfect)--then a big missing piece of the service pie will FINALLY be filled. When USAir de-hubbed their operation in Pittsburgh and henceforth dropped service to places like Hamilton, it was a big blow. Really, the city owes them a debt of gratitude for all the years they stuck around when no one else was there...anyway, getting back on track, a U.S. connection and a route connecting to AC's western/Asia network are on my wish list.

[LikeHamilton]

New Duty Free Facility Open for Business

Thursday, May 10, 2007 – HAMILTON -- Richard Koroscil, President and CEO of the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport (hi), is pleased to announce that Hamilton International Duty Free is now open for business.

“We are absolutely thrilled to be offering our passengers full duty free service, for the first time in the history of Hamilton International Airport,” said Koroscil. “We’re offering more destinations and services than ever before and this is a long awaited arrival for the airport.”

Hamilton International Duty Free officially opened its doors to passengers in the newly renovated departure lounge at hi. The facility features hundreds of different items including product lines traditionally only available at exclusive stores and boutiques. Hamilton International Duty Free promises a more enjoyable shopping experience than ever with incredible buys on merchandise for women, men, and children. The store offers fragrances and cosmetics in brands including, but not limited to, Chanel, Lancôme, Clinique, Estee Lauder and Elizabeth Arden. Also available, is a selection of Swarovski jewelry and fashion watches. Hamilton International Duty Free offers top-shelf liquors and some of Ontario’s best wines and icewines. Hamilton International Duty Free offers truly competitive pricing, accepts all major credit cards and is open to service all international and transborder flights.

Hamilton International Duty Free’s philosophy is to make a positive impression on every visitor to Canada, “We take our ambassadorial responsibilities very seriously,” said Chuck Loewen, the store’s general manager. “We want to leave everyone who stops here on their way home with a good last and lasting impression of Canada.”

Hamilton International Duty Free is owned and operated by North America’s largest land border Duty Free store, The Peace Bridge Duty Free. The Peace Bridge Duty Free has been operating since 1986 and recently celebrated its 20th anniversary. You can visit them online at www.dutyfree.ca.

~ fly hamilton, fly easy ~

[SteelTown]

Is that the actualy Duty Free we see in the picture or is it bigger?

None the less it's great news.

[LikeHamilton]

Sunquest Vacations reservation system is showing some of next winters packages from Hamilton. They are showing flights and packages to Punta Cana (PUJ) in the Dominican Republic and Montego Bay (MBJ), Jamaica. Jamaica is a new destination from Hamilton. Both will be on Friday’s starting December 21st using Skyservice aircraft.

[Hammer Town]

Originally Posted by LikeHamilton

Sunquest Vacations reservation system is showing some of next winters packages from Hamilton. They are showing flights and packages to Punta Cana (PUJ) in the Dominican Republic and Montego Bay (MBJ), Jamaica. Jamaica is a new destination from Hamilton. Both will be on Friday’s starting December 21st using Skyservice aircraft.

This is Nice to see a new Destination in the caribbean again

Its a llit distraught with Flyglobespan though. They are have some On Time Performace issue big time.

[Hammer Town]

Hey Likehamilton
Where did you see this information?