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[ChiND]

NY Guy:

How tall could this 3m sf office tower be.

Isn't 50 HY around 2/8m sf, and yet, it's only about 1,050 feet tall as I recall.

[chitowncyclone]

Originally Posted by ChiND

NY Guy:

How tall could this 3m sf office tower be.

Isn't 50 HY around 2/8m sf, and yet, it's only about 1,050 feet tall as I recall.

Keep in mind that the base of 50 HY is around 200 ft x 350 ft tapering to a top of 200 ft x 250 ft whereas site C1 (where the office tower would be) is around 200 ft x 250 ft so the base of the office tower would be about the same dimensions as the top of 50 HY. Logically, the new office tower should be taller as its starting from a smaller base.

[ChiND]

Originally Posted by chitowncyclone

Keep in mind that the base of 50 HY is around 200 ft x 350 ft tapering to a top of 200 ft x 250 ft whereas site C1 (where the office tower would be) is around 200 ft x 250 ft so the base of the office tower would be about the same dimensions as the top of 50 HY. Logically, the new office tower should be taller as its starting from a smaller base.

Good point!

[The New York Lion]

The Zohan should do whatever it takes to upzone the residential portion of the second phase.

4,000 units is nice, but why stop there? The demand is obviously there for triple, quadruple or more that number.

It's going to be very nice regardless, but we should try for multiple 2,000 foot residential towers.

The units would sell like hotcakes. We need as much housing as we can possibly handle.

This is the world capital. Everyone who's anyone wants to be here.

[ChiND]

Originally Posted by The New York Lion

The Zohan should do whatever it takes to upzone the residential portion of the second phase.

4,000 units is nice, but why stop there? The demand is obviously there for triple, quadruple or more that number.

It's going to be very nice regardless, but we should try for multiple 2,000 foot residential towers.

The units would sell like hotcakes. We need as much housing as we can possibly handle.

This is the world capital. Everyone who's anyone wants to be here.

I like your thinking, Lion!

[chitowncyclone]

Originally Posted by The New York Lion

The Zohan should do whatever it takes to upzone the residential portion of the second phase.

4,000 units is nice, but why stop there? The demand is obviously there for triple, quadruple or more that number.

It's going to be very nice regardless, but we should try for multiple 2,000 foot residential towers.

The units would sell like hotcakes. We need as much housing as we can possibly handle.

This is the world capital. Everyone who's anyone wants to be here.

At one point, Tishman Speyer considered building a 1,800 ft tall tower on the site of The Spiral so if anything that tall were to happen it would be here.

[ChiND]

Although the office tower will now be on the north side of the site, rather than the south side, I wonder if Related will still use the same Foster design.



An iconic office tower would be nice, but I'm most interested in the new park.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by DCReid

What about site B - was that supposed to be mostly residential? I would guess that if they want to add more offices they would reduce the residential/hotel and maybe make sites C2 and C3 mixed use with boutique offices added. I suspect that they would not want to build a huge 3 million sf office tower as it would be difficult to fill but keep C1 as the larger office tower and add boutique offices to the other sites. C2 and C3 accommodate heights well larger than what the plans for the hotel and residential so they could add offices on top. I don't think the residential or hotel components have been as strong as the offices in this development or in Manhattan in general.

They are going to build just what they said. Sites A and B are going to remain residential. That is unchanged.







Site C is where the office building will go, as it was in the original plan. It will be Related's last chance for a full scale office tower in Hudson Yards. It replaces what was otherwise going to be the casino complex.


The City Planning modified what was the "alternative scenario", or what would have been built as an altrnative to the casino.







Felated would build all office if they could, as that has been what's most successful for them on the West Side, the main reason they wanted to abandon the residential plan.

The current site plan is basically this, with the "blue" portion being modified with a larger office tower than the 1.5 msf version depicted here.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by ChiND

NY Guy:

How tall could this 3m sf office tower be.

Isn't 50 HY around 2/8m sf, and yet, it's only about 1,050 feet tall as I recall.

50 Hudson Yards has a large footprint.

BTW, the 2,500 units Blau mentioned would likely be the twin residential towers on Site B, with about 1,250 unites each.

[ChiND]

Originally Posted by NYguy

50 Hudson Yards has a large footprint.

BTW, the 2,500 units Blau mentioned would likely be the twin residential towers on Site B, with about 1,250 unites each.

I knew that about the residential.

I thought that the new office tower’s footprint was about as big as 50 HY’s.

I hope that Related has a tenant.

[chris08876]

Originally Posted by The New York Lion

The Zohan should do whatever it takes to upzone the residential portion of the second phase.

4,000 units is nice, but why stop there? The demand is obviously there for triple, quadruple or more that number.

Makes me wonder if the mayor will accelerate 100 Gold Street which is a 2000 unit development. That 2030 timeline for "community review" with 100 Gold is asinine.

Yeah considering that opportunities like these are rare (HY area), they should maximize it to the max when it comes to adding housing in general. Really anywhere in general. No time for underwhelming work, the need is... urgent!

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by chitowncyclone

At one point, Tishman Speyer considered building a 1,800 ft tall tower on the site of The Spiral so if anything that tall were to happen it would be here.

there … or okc

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by chris08876

Makes me wonder if the mayor will accelerate 100 Gold Street which is a 2000 unit development. That 2030 timeline for "community review" with 100 Gold is asinine.

They've accelerated approval of buildings with affordable housing, but it still takes too long. Speaking of, Related is apparently going to use the State's affordable housing tax break, which is why the number of affordable housing units in the "twin tower" residential buildings has increased (to 25%). Those buildings, it seems, will be rentals.



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A look back at the modifications that were approved.....












Overall, the Hudson Yards still has a relatively low buit FAR, at least compared to the rest of Manhattan, even with the boost it gets from City of Yes rezoning.












Podium changes.....

[MercurySky]

Originally Posted by The New York Lion

The Zohan should do whatever it takes to upzone the residential portion of the second phase.

4,000 units is nice, but why stop there? The demand is obviously there for triple, quadruple or more that number.

It's going to be very nice regardless, but we should try for multiple 2,000 foot residential towers.

The units would sell like hotcakes. We need as much housing as we can possibly handle.

This is the world capital. Everyone who's anyone wants to be here.

Why, are you planning to move there? If not, then don't worry about it.

[DCReid]

Originally Posted by MercurySky

Why, are you planning to move there? If not, then don't worry about it.

I forgot about the apartments, but am glad that they are building tall, so I kind of agree with NYLion. I also hope they get Independence Tower, the ABC development site, Gold Street and the 5 WTC apartment towers moving soon. With the plan for replacing Elliott-Chelsea Houses in Chelsea currently being litigated, I like the idea of taller apartment towers as bonus for more affordable units in Manhattan.

[mrnyc]

Originally Posted by DCReid

I forgot about the apartments, but am glad that they are building tall, so I kind of agree with NYLion. I also hope they get Independence Tower, the ABC development site, Gold Street and the 5 WTC apartment towers moving soon. With the plan for replacing Elliott-Chelsea Houses in Chelsea currently being litigated, I like the idea of taller apartment towers as bonus for more affordable units in Manhattan.

the tribeca independence tower filing was just announced.

1090’.

no renders yet, but morris adjimi is doing his first supertall.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by DCReid

I like the idea of taller apartment towers as bonus for more affordable units in Manhattan.

That's what the City of Yes was all about. This site also got a bit of that bonus, though it will still be underbuilt by Manhattan standards.

[NYguy]

The office tower will be 40 Hudson Yards.


https://www.crainsnewyork.com/opinion/commentary/cny-public-private-partnership-20260511/

Op-ed: Hudson Yards expansion is good for NY, says Related CEO Jeff Blau



By Jeff Blau
May 13, 2026

New York City is facing a genuine affordability crisis: not enough homes or good-paying jobs and a $5 billion budget gap. There is no single solution but one of the most effective tools we have is enabling private investment that creates real public benefits.

Building the next phase of Hudson Yards would do exactly that: deliver up to 4,000 new apartments with a minimum of 625 affordable homes, 35,000 union construction jobs, a new K-8 public school, a 6.6-acre green public park and $2 billion in revenue for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority. It would be a $13 billion private investment in New York. But nothing can be built on top of the working rail yards without a mechanism to first pay for the costs of the complex platform infrastructure, which have ballooned to over $2 billion.

Fortunately, the first phase of Hudson Yards is a proven model: More than $15 billion in private funds were invested to transform 15 acres of rail yards into a vibrant new neighborhood with 12 million square feet of residential, commercial office and retail space. The development delivered 1,775 housing units, including 647 affordable homes, and created 23,000 union construction jobs. Bonds from the Hudson Yards Infrastructure Corporation supported the 7 train extension and Bella Abzug Park. And, as office buildings came online, those bonds became a boon to NYC’s finances, today remitting in excess of $390 million annually to the city’s coffers.

It’s understandable that some New Yorkers are skeptical of large-scale development. But our plan to use this payment in lieu of taxes program to support the infrastructure on the western yards is in no way a gift to Related; zero money comes from the city upfront. Only the future incremental taxes created by the development itself are utilized for the bonds to move this project forward. And as the site sits empty, it currently delivers no real estate taxes.

That gets to the heart of the issue: The very things New Yorkers are asking for — more affordable housing, new public spaces and improved transit — require levels of investment and funding that the city simply doesn’t have. We’ve seen what happens when promises are made and not delivered. Look at Atlantic Yards.

But our plan for the next phase of Hudson Yards is a proven model. That’s why it won the unanimous support of the City Council and the prior administration. Without this public-private partnership, it will not move forward.

Fortunately, we have momentum. Our work with the Long Island Rail Road on the infrastructure is active. There’s substantial interest from industry leaders to anchor 40 Hudson Yards, the new class AA office that would kick off development. But companies can’t make decisions about investing in an environment of uncertainty. The market needs confidence that advancing economic development is a priority.

Related’s track record over fifty years speaks to what’s possible when the public and private sector come together: from building new affordable and market-rate housing on Roosevelt Island, to preserving Manhattan Plaza for more than two decades, to building mixed-income housing throughout West Chelsea; to today, building the largest all-affordable housing development in 40 years at Willets Point, Queens. Related’s portfolio in New York City includes more than 11,000 affordable homes owned, preserved and under development, and we have never converted a single affordable apartment to market rate.

I have been building in this city long enough to know that big projects always face headwinds. Community boards have a knee-jerk inclination to say no. NIMBY opponents organize. But we have spent years debating the western rail yards. First the stadium, then Hudson Yards, then a casino, and finally, months of intense negotiations crafting a plan that reflects community feedback on housing and is still financially viable.

[NYguy]

40 Hudson is one of the most significant office developments currently in motion in the city....(construction and renovation)