Waterfront Hub v2.0

[Migrant_Coconut]

Conversely though, Deltaport is served by BCR and CN. The downtown port is CP's one and only gateway to the Pacific (also the reason Metro Vancouver exists in the first place, but that's not really a reason to keep it).

[madog222]

v3.0 I suppose, created by architect Farrells and engineering firm Arup.

It looks like this vision doesn't include (much) overbuilding of the rail yard which makes it somewhat more viable than previous ideas.

The UFO looking thing is a helicopter (or other VTOL) and local passenger ferry (Seabus) terminal.

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Images from Farrells, Arup.

[Denscity]

...And the tallest building there is said to be a new tallest for Vancouver?

[mcj]

Glad to see this idea being progressed, interesting to see that they did this pro-bono it seems.

Love the idea to build Vancouver's tallest at Waterfront station, and love the ideas for the Carrall and Granville street pedestrian overpasses/piers.

The "transportation hub" being a bit detached from Waterfront Station is an oversight in this, and has the hallmarks of a purely conceptual rendering with those weird helicopter landing spaces on the roof.

A hybrid of this and the Perkins&Will vision would be amazing. Taking the pedestrian overpass/piers and re-development of the CRAB park area from this idea, combine it with the Waterfront Station transportation focused aspects of the Perkins&Will vision, and build a landmark building to be the tallest in Vancouver (300m+ would be amazing) right at Waterfront station would be what I would like to see happen.

[logan5]

It would be nice if something actually got built here. It’s an opportunity to expand the sea wall, which is a pretty nice amenity for the city. Also, I need a landing spot for my flying car.

[BaddieB]

Wait, why are they demolishing the Granville Square tower? That's so wasteful.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by mcj

Glad to see this idea being progressed, interesting to see that they did this pro-bono it seems.

It's described as 'unsolicited', which is kind of weird. I guess Farrell's, (who are doing more in Hong Kong and Shanghai than in London these days, it appears), have spare design capacity at the moment.

It's hard to be certain without a plan, but it appears their scheme builds on top of part of CRAB park and some of the freight rail tracks, which seems an unlikely prospect.

They're obviously not solving the hazardous cargo problem that has sunk development ideas up to now (and it'll be interesting to see if the City's current exercise gets any further on that topic).

They're also showing residential buildings on Port Land, which would need a Federal government change to the Letters Patent that control what the Port of Vancouver can do with their land. There's never been any indication up to now that could be possible.

[mcj]

Originally Posted by Changing City

It's described as 'unsolicited', which is kind of weird. I guess Farrell's, (who are doing more in Hong Kong and Shanghai than in London these days, it appears), have spare design capacity at the moment.

It's hard to be certain without a plan, but it appears their scheme builds on top of part of CRAB park and some of the freight rail tracks, which seems an unlikely prospect.

They're obviously not solving the hazardous cargo problem that has sunk development ideas up to now (and it'll be interesting to see if the City's current exercise gets any further on that topic).

They're also showing residential buildings on Port Land, which would need a Federal government change to the Letters Patent that control what the Port of Vancouver can do with their land. There's never been any indication up to now that could be possible.

Yeah it's very much a vision to show off their rendering capabilities.

I like some of the ideas that they bring here, but it's obtusely a fantasy being shown off here. That being said, the city will eventually need to do something with this area so it's good to have another concept to explore.

[jollyburger]

I wonder if they build more train storage track behind the Centerm dock or something N/S near the sugar refinery.

[Vin]

This rendering feels like a Mickey-Mouse job. There is no theme to the new Waterfront buildings, and everything feels busy and messy. Thumbs down.

[jollyburger]

Full res photos here.

The tall tower. Top section is around ~17 levels including that open air patio floor. The mid-section is ~16 levels with another patio level. The bottom level is another ~14-16 levels.

https://farrells.com/news_item/envis...-urban-horizon

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[officedweller]

Poor vision if it requires demolishing Granville Square and replacing it with a skinnier tower only 50% taller.

[jollyburger]

They had help with some Vancouver people on the project (VIA Architecture and some other person). Honestly the only way I see this thing ever getting built is with a massive chunk of mixed-use density to fund it.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Offering to upgrade the Waterfront terminal and Seabus could also open up provincial/federal funding.

More importantly, they'd need CP to stop storing hazmats on the tracks, which is what's killed the last twenty years of Waterfront Hub plans - nobody wants a major tower complex on top of a dormant bomb.

[Metro-One]

Looks good, though the loss of Granville Square is sad. (Though at least in this proposal it’s for a larger landmark tower).

That said, I’m guessing none of this is serious and is just another exercise.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Vin

This rendering feels like a Mickey-Mouse job. There is no theme to the new Waterfront buildings, and everything feels busy and messy. Thumbs down.

Evaluation seconded. Busy and messy, as you say.