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SFUVancouver · #**741** Posted **Sep 25, 2023, 8:27 PM**

For the sake of comparison, I made a gif to compare the current (StreetView) facility and the revised proposal for its renovation.

Source (Google StreetView) and Source (rendering)

Hawrylyshyn · #**742** Posted **Sep 25, 2023, 8:49 PM**

Great gif, disappointing proposal.

jonny24 · #**743** Posted **Sep 27, 2023, 1:51 PM**

Looks like a trendy house flip - new grey vinyl siding and some exterior potlights = boom! profit!

drpgq · #**744** Posted **Sep 27, 2023, 1:58 PM**

I wonder how long First Ontario's sponsorship has to go.

drpgq · #**745** Posted **Oct 4, 2023, 4:13 PM**

Andlauer not sure rebuilt FirstOntario Centre has room for Bulldogs
Oak View Group plans to make concerts the anchor tenant of upgraded arena

https://www.thespec.com/sports/hocke...3d8604ad7.html

"The only other arena in the Golden Horseshoe similar to the size of our building is Scotiabank Arena in Toronto. The theory is that with all the acts touring these days it can’t handle everything. So there should be plenty of big shows available to come to Hamilton. We’re going to become an extension of the Toronto concert market.

According to Pistore, OVG management will watch to see what dates are locked up for Maple Leafs or Raptors games — days a concert couldn’t be held there — and look to book FirstOntario Centre with travelling acts at those times. Since those teams often play on weekends, that could mean a lot of choice dates for concerts here.

“I don’t know how you guys feel,” Pistore said. “Going to a concert on Monday is great. Going to a concert on a Thursday, Friday or Saturday is way, way better. So we think we can capitalize on the busyness of Scotiabank.”"

SteelTown · #**746** Posted **Nov 2, 2023, 8:16 PM**

$280M deal signed in revitalization of Hamilton’s FirstOntario Centre

https://www.chch.com/280m-deal-signe...ntario-centre/

TheRitsman · #**747** Posted **Nov 2, 2023, 8:46 PM**

I'm realizing now we don't really know what the planned renovations to the Concert Hall are, but I really hope they don't try to "modernize" it by pulling out all the beautiful vintage wood accents, covering the well thought brutalism. There are definitely some items that could use some touch ups, but overall it's a really stunning venue that I could see being viable for heritage status one day.

Innsertnamehere · #**748** Posted **Nov 2, 2023, 9:00 PM**

I imagine Oakview is going all in on the arena and will do their contractual minimums on the other facilities - so don't expect much. $2.5 million on the concert hall will basically just buy some basic deferred maintenance.

Otherwise - this is super exciting and feels real this time, I think. Getting Copps up to modern standards is going to make a massive difference not only for the arena itself, but the wider downtown. With 150 events a year and 1 million annual visitors, that's a very strong customer base for restaurants, hotels, etc. downtown. It's a massive multiple over what the facility currently attracts, which is probably more like 150-200,000 visitors at most annually.

Plus it'll be fun to get a lot more major shows in Hamilton too.

JakeLRS · #**749** Posted **Nov 2, 2023, 9:01 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelTown

$280M deal signed in revitalization of Hamilton’s FirstOntario Centre

https://www.chch.com/280m-deal-signe...ntario-centre/

We were supposed to get another set of updated renders, they had hoped by the end of October. Hopefully this means they’ll be released soon so we can see if the exterior atrocity will be as bad as they made it look

TheHonestMaple · #**750** Posted **Nov 2, 2023, 9:14 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

I imagine Oakview is going all in on the arena and will do their contractual minimums on the other facilities - so don't expect much. $2.5 million on the concert hall will basically just buy some basic deferred maintenance.

Otherwise - this is super exciting and feels real this time, I think. Getting Copps up to modern standards is going to make a massive difference not only for the arena itself, but the wider downtown. With 150 events a year and 1 million annual visitors, that's a very strong customer base for restaurants, hotels, etc. downtown. It's a massive multiple over what the facility currently attracts, which is probably more like 150-200,000 visitors at most annually.

Plus it'll be fun to get a lot more major shows in Hamilton too.

I really hope they can work out a deal to relocate the men's shelter. Having 1 million out of town visitors come here only to see that situation will be a bit embarrassing. Pretending it isn't a problem doesn't help. That area is shockingly bad after dark.

king10 · #**751** Posted **Nov 2, 2023, 10:15 PM**

Interesting that they may look to bring an AHL team back. I was more interested in the AHL Bulldogs instead of the OHL version.

BCTed · #**752** Posted **Nov 2, 2023, 10:30 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

I imagine Oakview is going all in on the arena and will do their contractual minimums on the other facilities - so don't expect much. $2.5 million on the concert hall will basically just buy some basic deferred maintenance.

Otherwise - this is super exciting and feels real this time, I think. Getting Copps up to modern standards is going to make a massive difference not only for the arena itself, but the wider downtown. With 150 events a year and 1 million annual visitors, that's a very strong customer base for restaurants, hotels, etc. downtown. It's a massive multiple over what the facility currently attracts, which is probably more like 150-200,000 visitors at most annually.

Plus it'll be fun to get a lot more major shows in Hamilton too.

$280 million is way more than I would have expected would ever be spent on this arena. Best thing we could have hoped for aside from an NHL team.

bigguy1231 · #**753** Posted **Nov 3, 2023, 1:44 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRitsman

I'm realizing now we don't really know what the planned renovations to the Concert Hall are, but I really hope they don't try to "modernize" it by pulling out all the beautiful vintage wood accents, covering the well thought brutalism. There are definitely some items that could use some touch ups, but overall it's a really stunning venue that I could see being viable for heritage status one day.

That wood is part of the acoustics of that auditorium. If they were stupid enough to remove it they would lose one of the most acoustically attuned concert facilities in the world. It is known for its acoustics.

TheRitsman · #**754** Posted **Nov 3, 2023, 3:04 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigguy1231

That wood is part of the acoustics of that auditorium. If they were stupid enough to remove it they would lose one of the most acoustically attuned concert facilities in the world. It is known for its acoustics.

I'm speaking more of the lobby areas. The interior of the building is absolutely stunning.

SteelTown · #**755** Posted **Nov 3, 2023, 8:56 PM**

Here's a detailed article from VenuesNow about the $280M deal

OVG is parent company to VenuesNow.

$280 MILLION HAMILTON ARENA PROJECT TAKES SHAPE
https://venuesnow.com/280-million-ha...t-takes-shape/

Soon FirstOntario Centre will be renamed to something else.

ScreamingViking · #**756** Posted **Nov 3, 2023, 9:52 PM**

Hockey and basketball as "special events"... used to be that the concerts qualified as such.

But more activity downtown will be a great thing.

ScreamingViking · #**757** Posted **Nov 3, 2023, 9:56 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRitsman

I'm speaking more of the lobby areas. The interior of the building is absolutely stunning.

Yes. The hall itself should only need cosmetic changes. Lobby, ancillary spaces, entry... they can be modernized but to be honest I love the way they are now.

I think this was Garwood-Jones' best work in the city.