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Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis
I mean... doesn't that literally describe Ottawa as a whole? Every single aspect of this city and the people that live in it is watered down nonsense.
Without sandbagging the city and it's people as a whole... lets look at the state of the Red Blacks... The Ottawa Senators and it's owner.. their lack of ability to hang onto ANY talent over the years. How many baseball teams and soccer teams have we had? It's pathetic.
Let's talk about art and culture... sure we have a pile of world class museums but those aren't really a reflection of local culture.
After House of Targ... name me some fun places to go for a night out that doesn't necessarily involve drinking. Sure we have some escape rooms and axe throwing places but Targ is definitely a spot you can hang out at.
That is a legit question BTW... I'm all ears for a House of Targ type of spot if anyone can recommend me something.
*edit* RIP... Zaphods... Rock Junction... IS Barrymores even a thing anymore?
If you like Shoppers drug marts and RBC fully occupying the entirety of retail podiums with 18 foot ceilings and massive floor plates ensuring no small business could ever survive then this town is FOR YOU!!!!
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You can't blame people for not being able to afford rent on podiums that are only accessible by big corps such as banks, pharma, or coffee chains. If you want a lively downtown where people visit often, you need to offer a space that is cheap for customer. Chances that these type of businesses would succeed are low as they would operate at a loss.
People do have outings, but there is just so much one can afford in a budget when you have to spend money in most places. I hate the "Ottawa people are boring" argument. (you don't say it specifically, but it is implied. So I speak for the mentality on this forum in general) People just have different priorities or different living context. Instead of being quick at labeling people "boring", can we ask ourselves, "why people are not going out?". Could it be that lots live in the suburb and don't want to commute back to the core? Could it be unreliable public transportation that people want to avoid? Is the amount of time required to move from one part of the city to another too expensive in people's "time budget"? Could it be that they prefer spending their money on other aspect of life such as traveling, uber eats, streaming platforms?
I don't know, I'm just brainstorming. But it is clear to me that people aren't simply "boring". Boring isn't the cause, but rather a symptom of multiple issues that ends up in this "stay at home" behavior.
And for sports teams, you do have greedy big ego owners, but the reason they can't keep big names is probably because the whole Ottawa context just can't compete with the benefits other American cities offer. Not because people are "boring". The reason they can't fill stadiums might be because we don't want to commute to Kanata, or "drive" to Lansdowne. It could be that we can watch the same sport on our comfy couch with cheap beer, on our 4K Ultra HD 80" TVs. I think it just comes to comfort and priorities.
If you can offer something that can compete with the comfort and convenience of things we already get at home, you might have a successful business.
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