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Old Posted Feb 19, 2018, 10:38 PM
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I watched his video. He gets some things right, and gets some things wrong IMO. Where Bezos will want to spend most of his time does not matter in my opinion as much as he thinks it does. He has a handful of residences all over the place and he's a smart guy, and a smart business man. He will pick the place that gets him what he wants and will allow him to grow whatever business he wants to grow in the way he needs to at whatever targets. Where he resides or wants to resides is secondary. He might love Miami and might love spending time there, but Miami might not be the best place for the actual business versus another place he might not like as much as far as personal life goes. He is not stupid enough to choose a place solely on that. If he does do this, then he's a stupider business person than we ever imagined.

As far as NYC goes, I understand that they will get younger workers to pile into apartments, but the issue with this is that eventually that type of mindset changes by the late 20s. You can get someone fresh out of college/a few years out of college to do this but just a handful of years later, it changes. I know that he states that they only care about younger talent, but that's really not true. Any corporation, tech or not, relies on a diverse work force to get successful - that includes age diversity. There's a lot of hot shot 22-24 year olds coming out of college, and while some are pretty damn good, the average person is not as good as they think. They're arrogant about their own abilities - I know because I was there once upon a time. The reality is that they don't know shit on average and rely heavily on people who are a little older (not 50 year old people, but people usually in their late 20s to late 30s and into their 40s sometimes). If you are dealing with enterprise level software development, there's a lot of intangibles that you just cannot teach. It comes with experience and more than just the technical stuff. When you're dealing with tens of millions of customers, you have to know how to manage things - it doesn't matter how talented of a programmer you are at that point. You have to know how to manage and also know what the right decisions are as well as the right path to decision making. I don't really expect anybody to know this who's never worked in that environment - including this professor. I manage a part of a piece of "software" which is used by tens of millions of people and is very important to each person's lives too. The actual delivery of this to tens of millions of people and the management of any serious issues is never, ever done by someone in their early 20s. They may be in on it, but they are never making any actual decisions. It's like that for a reason. I have some very talented people on my teams who are just a few years out of school, but they usually do not have the right insight into things like this - they will probably in a small handful of years, but not yet.

I wouldn't be shocked if they picked NYC but I would be half surprised. Ultimately the top cities that it'll come down to are NYC, DC, Philadephia, Boston, Chicago and probably Atlanta. Los Angeles, Dallas, and Toronto are maybes. I guarantee you those will be the top 6 to 9. Eventually it will come down to large metro areas that have a diverse economy which has a proven record of attracting top talent across the board whether it's experienced people or just out of college - and places with at least decent public transit and urbanity. Right now, the places I listed are exactly what they're looking for. Which one? It's hard to say - there's probably a lot of factors that are private to them. Air travel for example might come into play and that particular part might favor somewhere like Chicago or Dallas, but then there could be another criteria that does not.
I definitely don't believe its NYC..the whole cost of living and cost of doing business in NYC is totally what amazon is not looking for... Now i do believe from alot of the articles ive been reading that DC area looks like the favorite and mostly because of Bezos second home and it all comes down to where the wealthiest man in the world wants to spend his time..plain and simple...DC isnt' as pricey as NYC or Boston but is still close enough to draw from there talent pool and logistically a great location... I don't think though that DC has the development sites on par to what Chicago is offering..but that's just my opinion...there is no city that can compete with Chicago's multitude of sites close to downtown.. I also feel Chicago is just more attractive of a city for a younger person than DC.... I would just be kinda annoyed if Bezos has known all along that DC was gonna be the site he was going to pick regardless of all the efforts other cities have put in
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