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Originally Posted by delts145
Scott, If only I had a dollar for every West sider who felt they would suddenly meet with their death at the hands of a violent crime, if they moved east of La Cinega. Your right, perception can be a powerful thing, no matter how ignorantly placed.
I'm honestly curious as to how anyone could not see how these kind of statements could not be hurtful or make many local forumers leave the forum, as many have. Considering that many of the local active forum members grew up here. Their mothers and fathers who they most likely revere and are probably outstanding individuals are also a part of that culture. Someone insults a culture, religion, way of life (their friends, family, parents) in the most base of terms, which he has done regularly, even when indirectly the veil is extremely thin and obvious. Why would anyone with even a small amount of objectivity begin to ask how someone could be offended? If I were to go onto one of the threads here in L.A. and make the same type of assertions toward the Korean, African American, or Latino community and their cultures do you think they might be offended?
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Delts, I understand and appreciate what you're saying. I won't speak for Brankrom, but for my part, I'm not trying to insult Utah, its history, or its people, or those who are LDS. I'm just saying that one way or another it is a fact that Utah's history and culture is very unique compared to other states. It has a history of being uninviting to outsiders or those with different points of view/lifestyles, etc. That has spawned a lot of misconceptions, in the same way that your examples of violence in LA have. And I think these are major factors that hold back migration or people staying in Utah and SLC.
That history of exclusion is baked into the culture through generations. I don't think its deliberate for the most part, its just there. Its much more complex than I make it sound, I'm sure, and certainly not universal, but it exists, and it affects those of us who live here but who are not in the majority, and it has created a reputation beyond its borders. Some of it is inaccurate and unfair, some of it is spot-on. But there it is. In this conversation of SLC's growth compared to its suburbs and its neighboring metros, I believe its a factor.
I hope its apparent that I'm expressing this from an objective point of view, not meaning any disrespect to individuals.
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