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Originally Posted by CIA
Do you have a link to NJ Transit or transit advocate's call for the 7 line to be extended to Hoboken Terminal? I have honestly never heard of it outside this forum and would like to read the basis for the rationale.
All engineering firms doing this type of work inflate ridership projections, but I can't see Hoboken commanding a higher ridership number than Secaucus.
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I'll look , there were a few...some even called for a New West Side Station separate from Amtrak. All lines that feed Secaucus , go to Hoboken except the NEC... Redirecting the buses might get you some extra passengers , however replacing those lines with Rail and feeding that into Hob would get you more passengers... Most Bus lines in Suburban Jersey are due to be replaced with Rail feeding into Hoboken via Secaucus or Newark. Even though Hoboken is maxed out development wise the Jersey City and Weehawken sections aren't and can be upzoned. Secaucus is used by around 25,000 a day , Hoboken gets around 60,000 a day. Secaucus is a through station , where as Hoboken is a Terminus with a lot of space. Its like Grand Central or Atlantic Terminal , both terminals have massive amounts of train space and could easily handle double amount of passengers. Jamaica , Secaucus . Newark Penn , New York are through stations and have capacity issues. Even though New York is a terminus for many trains , most have to go to Queens to be turned around due to be on the main tracks. Secaucus NEC wise can't expand without the tunnels , turning trains would create a huge backlog. So while Secaucus sounds like a good idea on paper , it ends up straining the system even more. And with most major bus lines set to be replaced it cancels out the idea of relieving the terminal. Aside from Hoboken Terminal , I would add a Station near the Weehawken border and upzone that area...which is already happening...
Hoboken Terminal 7 Train
-Rapid Expansion of the Regional Rail system without the need of New tunnels
-Relief of the overcrowded Hoboken Bus System
-Relief for the Journal-33rd Street PATH line
-Less Bus congestion due to the Rapid Regional Rail expansion
-Increased demand for Hoboken service leads to a transit wide service boost
-Hoboken Terminal has 18 tracks with 9 platforms
-Would allow for massive redevelopment on the Newport side without affecting the PATH
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