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Old Posted Nov 21, 2008, 4:39 PM
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I looked at it this morning.
the 'walkways' are the usual tiny concrete sidewalks in front of stores. nothing is connected and to get from one building to another requires walking in parking lots and roadways.
The site plan can be deceiving if you do not keep perpective with scale. The narrowest walkway appears to be about four feet wide. The walkway in front of the big boxes is about 15 feet wide, and most other walkways look about six feet wide. To keep perspective, eyeball the sidewalk width in comparison to the width of a parking spot in the site plan. A parking spot averages six feet in width.

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To suggest that crossing a downtown street at a stoplight is less safe or equally safe than trying to cross a mega-parking lot in 5 places in order to walk to another buildng is insane.
No, it is the truth. Crossing against 20 kmh traffic circulating in a parking lot is infinitely more safe than crossing 50 kmh crossroad traffic. Using the word 'mega' in your description does not impact on traffic safety.

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My bias is against crap.
This is an urban neighbourhood with lots of pedestrians/cyclists and transit users.
Yet, this development has taken shape as if it's in the meadowlands.
The development plan is significantly different from Meadowlands. Meadowlands does nto take any pedestrian traffic into account. This development does. Again, a bias against Meadowlands is clouding your judgement.

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I fail to see how you can be promoting this as pedestrian friendly when the most dominant feature on the site plan is a massive parking lot. Please post a photo-tour of your experience the first time you do some 'serious shopping' by bus/foot at this place.
And perhaps you can reserve judgement on the pedestrian experience until you have actually visited the completed site as well. You may be pleasantly surprised by your experience.
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