Posted Nov 3, 2005, 1:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianInOntari-ari-o
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Originally Posted by MolsonExport
London is turning into a charmless sprawlsville. On the periphery of London (e.g., North and South ends of Wonderland road), there is commercial and residential construction aplenty. Big Box retailers are multiplying on the exurbs. Meanwhile, lots closer to downtown lie vacant (some for more than a decade), and malls wither and die (e.g., The Galleria and Westmount Shopping Centre). Much of downtown consists of parking lots and under-utlized buildings. and Wharncliffe Road is an embarassment (tacky stuck-in-the-fifities-but-aging-very-ungracefully).
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Exactly. People from London can be so snobby about how great their city is, but from an urbanist's standpoint it's a nightmare. It just keeps getting worse...look at the Home Depot and all that other crap going up on Wonderland South. I hear so much Windsor bashing from Londoners (most of it based on tired stereotypes) but at least Windsor isn't a sprawlzilla. |
I wonder sometimes why some people comment when they do on some things.
Do either you or Molson mean to say that Windsor and Montreal are not themselves sprawling? Seeing that you feel you have any right to comment on London I wonder what basis for comparison you really have. London for example is only completing its second home depot while Windsor already has two. A recent road trip to Windsor also reveals new suburbs sprouting up, begining around Belle River to Windsor and down to Amherstburg. I'm not surprised by all this, and I doubt there is a single example of a reasonably prospoerous city in Canada that isn't in fact sprawling so it begs the question, why single London out unless you feel that London should somehow be the single exception to all the gall and sprawl? More than likely, it seems you think London needs to be taken down a notch. Nonetheless,
I fail to see why Windsor's industrial grot (still very apparent on my recent trip) for which it is famous is any less unsightly than big boxes on Wonderland. |
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Originally Posted by MolsonExport
Speaking for myself, I feel eminently qualified to comment on such phenomena, having moved from Montreal to London. The points that I mentioned are specific to London, but not uniquely affecting London. I don't like the sprawl in Montreal either, but the downtown is a hell of a lot healthier (and getting more so) than that of London, even after adjusting for the relative difference in size. And I live on Wonderland road, so I will damn well comment all I want to; sorry if it offends you.
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Yes, I recall you saying you live on Wonderland and it's ironic isn't it that you should move there, out there in the sprawl with the mall only to lament the condition of the downtown? Let me ask, does the car make your life possible?
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