General Phoenix Metro Discussion Thread - Page 119

azsunsurfer · #**2361** Posted **Jan 28, 2022, 4:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

More manufacturing and HQ heading our way.

https://azbigmedia.com/business/xnrgy-will-bring-300m-investment-900-jobs-to-metro-phoenix/

Do we know where this is going exactly? Doesn't say...

ASU Diablo · #**2362** Posted **Jan 28, 2022, 4:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by azsunsurfer

Do we know where this is going exactly? Doesn't say...

I have gone through like 5 different articles and all of them state "Greater Phoenix area". Weird.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases...a-headquarters-in-arizona-301467970.html

IndyAZ · #**2363** Posted **Jan 28, 2022, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by azsunsurfer

Do we know where this is going exactly? Doesn't say...

It's going in Chandler, in the Price corridor South of 202. NEC of Price and Queen Creek I believe.

CrestedSaguaro · #**2364** Posted **Jan 28, 2022, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by IndyAZ

It's going in Chandler, in the Price corridor South of 202. NEC of Price and Queen Creek I believe.

I need to have your sources!

J_PHX · #**2365** Posted **Jan 28, 2022, 10:27 PM**

Anyone able to transcribe this subscriber-only article? Looks like AZCENTRAL is the only one reporting this:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/loc...vestigate-fired-city-manager/6519875001/

xymox · #**2366** Posted **Jan 30, 2022, 1:40 AM**

I found this quite interesting…

https://azbex.com/bnsf-wants-to-build-hub-in-surprise/

Would this replace LA operations?

combusean · #**2367** Posted **Jan 30, 2022, 6:20 AM**

^ Not likely given that LA is out of industrial space. This is most likely just adding capacity.

xymox · #**2368** Posted **Jan 30, 2022, 4:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

^ Not likely given that LA is out of industrial space. This is most likely just adding capacity.

Interesting.

The article claimed it was to become the hub for the western US. Just wasn’t clear if that was additive or replacing existing. I believe they had made threats recently to leave LA over the train robbery chaos that seems unstopping.

combusean · #**2369** Posted **Jan 30, 2022, 5:10 PM**

There's a couple things going on... the robbery chaos has to do with UP's well-known failures to secure their railroad and the problem being compounded with PSR. They run longer and longer trains shunting them back and forth well beyond their yards, sometimes blocking road traffic for extended periods of time. I don't know if BNSF is suffering from the same problem.

The other problem is this isn't really that close to LA. They have to go through Barstow and down back the Peavine to access it on their own track or double back on Union Pacific track to access it the other way. I don't understand trackage rights but this seems to be a weird place to build a hub, maybe their spokesperson is just speaking in non-technical terms.

I think the Elwood Logistics Park outside of Chicago is closer to what this will end up being. Probably some relief of LA traffic but I doubt they're moving much as long as demand remains strong in that region. BNSF and UP have both built these huge yards outside Chicago in the Elwood area but still have a large presence closer to and including Chicago proper.

locolife · #**2370** Posted **Jan 31, 2022, 10:26 PM**

Was able to grab a few pictures of downtown from the rooftop of Cambria.

combusean · #**2371** Posted **Jan 31, 2022, 10:57 PM**

Man the skyline is getting dense. Good picture.

I wonder if Derby could redeem itself by having a front that isn't terrible. Time will tell.

MMDelon · #**2372** Posted **Jan 31, 2022, 11:33 PM**

I like that rooftop bar a lot because you can kind of imagine the skyline with Moontower, Skye, Central Station, and Astra. Moontower is flying!

MMDelon · #**2373** Posted **Jan 31, 2022, 11:36 PM**

I have to agree, Derby looks disappointing and different from the renderings.

CrestedSaguaro · #**2374** Posted **Jan 31, 2022, 11:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by MMDelon

I have to agree, Derby looks disappointing and different from the renderings.

Well, it is the backside facing Angles. Not sure they really could've done much with the blank wall. I'm surprised they were able to add a row of windows to be honest.

I'm sure the front will be better.

Diamonddave · #**2375** Posted **Jan 31, 2022, 11:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by combusean

Man the skyline is getting dense. Good picture.

I wonder if Derby could redeem itself by having a front that isn't terrible. Time will tell.

Moon Tower seems to be moving quickly a;so.

Code5 · #**2376** Posted **Feb 1, 2022, 1:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro

Well, it is the backside facing Angles. Not sure they really could've done much with the blank wall. I'm surprised they were able to add a row of windows to be honest.

I'm sure the front will be better.

They could've added those twinkle lights like they had in the rendering. Add more exciting dazzle to the skyline at night. Smh. Hate it when renderings lie to me. But I still think Derby isn't that bad looking.

locolife · #**2377** Posted **Feb 1, 2022, 2:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by MMDelon

I like that rooftop bar a lot because you can kind of imagine the skyline with Moontower, Skye, Central Station, and Astra. Moontower is flying!

Yeah, me too, I'll be back for sure it will be a good vantage point for seeing those all come together. Moon is humming right along.

locolife · #**2378** Posted **Feb 1, 2022, 2:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by Code5

They could've added those twinkle lights like they had in the rendering. Add more exciting dazzle to the skyline at night. Smh. Hate it when renderings lie to me. But I still think Derby isn't that bad looking.

Is there any possibility those lights still get added? I'm going to head back up there at night sometime to get similar shots in the dark, it would be pretty cool if they had a light show happening to compliment The Stewart. We had some friends in town and they said "it feels a bit like Miami"

TJPHXskyscraperfan · #**2379** Posted **Feb 2, 2022, 6:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by locolife

Is there any possibility those lights still get added? I'm going to head back up there at night sometime to get similar shots in the dark, it would be pretty cool if they had a light show happening to compliment The Stewart. We had some friends in town and they said "it feels a bit like Miami"

Miami huh?lol. We are far from Miami but coming along for sure. Maybe Orlando,lol. But I actually kind of like Derby, I’m sure the front will look real nice. It definitely looks better than X society does.

ASU Diablo · #**2380** Posted **Feb 23, 2022, 4:21 PM**

Good news for office space...hopefully translates here to the Valley. Plenty of large employers (specifically FIs) will also start "returning to office" next month as well...

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news...onstruction-commanding-rent-premium.html

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The pipeline for new office construction isn't quite at pre-pandemic levels but appears to be inching closer.

Cushman & Wakefield PLC (NYSE: CWK) is forecasting 48.5 million square feet of new office will deliver in 2022 across 90 U.S. office markets it tracks, and an additional 25.6 million square feet is slated, at this time, to deliver next year.

That suggests developers are forging ahead on office projects, despite continued uncertainty hanging over the sector as many office workers remain remote.

Pre-Covid-19, the U.S. saw 52.7 million square feet of new office deliver in 2017, 51.2 million square feet in 2018 and 59.2 million square feet — the peak — in 2019.