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Old Posted Jun 4, 2021, 5:01 PM
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I totally agree. Give me the decent original 1980s design instead of an ugly 2020s one. If that's going to be the end result, they'd be better off just slapping a new coat of paint on what's there and redirecting the savings to more interior work. This has the makings of an Edmonton library-style reno disaster.
I agree exactly, was going to say the same thing... slap some fresh paint, maybe add some kind of appealing lighting, then use the rest of the funds to make the interior top notch... hopefully set themselves up to one day entice a relocated NHL franchise. That said too, I’d imagine it’d make for an unreal natural rivalry with Buffalo.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2021, 5:07 PM
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I agree exactly, was going to say the same thing... slap some fresh paint, maybe add some kind of appealing lighting, then use the rest of the funds to make the interior top notch... hopefully set themselves up to one day entice a relocated NHL franchise. That said too, I’d imagine it’d make for an unreal natural rivalry with Buffalo.
If Hamilton gets a NHL team one day, I'd imagine that Copps would be at most a temporary placeholder venue for a few years. I doubt it was kept up to NHL standards over the years (no real reason to spend that kind of money) so I'm sure there would be a whopping bill to upgrade it to that level...especially considering that it's now pushing 40 years of age.

For its current uses, like junior hockey, lacrosse, major concerts, it seems pretty well suited to those things.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2021, 5:21 PM
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Also not a fan of the design. They are trying to hard with a concept that looks outdated to begin with. It could easily be both value-engineered to death and incur major cost overruns.

A simple paint job and tasteful modernization of the perturbing entrance pavilions would suffice.
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Are those red seats in the upper bowl? I thought they were all blue?
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2021, 8:36 PM
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Are those red seats in the upper bowl? I thought they were all blue?
They're gold. It's just the lighting
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2021, 9:15 PM
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2021, 7:40 PM
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Mosaic Stadium did the same thing, though at the moment I'm unable to grab the social media posted pictures.

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I think the Hamilton arena could look good, but it depends on how it's done. It looks similar in principle to the recladding they did for Nassau Coliseum.
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It's a nice looking stadium.

It looks to me that it was designed so that a fabric roof could get rigged up. Is that a thing?
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2021, 12:26 PM
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It looks to me that it was designed so that a fabric roof could get rigged up. Is that a thing?
Not likely, seeing that such a capability has never been publicly mentioned (to my knowledge, at least) in the stadium's eight years of existence.
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It's a done deal. New owners of FirstOntario Centre.

City hands over operation of 3 key downtown entertainment facilities for up to 49 years

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...ties-1.6059106

For the next few decades the City of Hamilton has handed over running the FirstOntario Centre, FirstOntario Concert Hall, and the Hamilton Convention Centre — all of which will undergo multi-million dollar renovations.

Hamilton Urban Precinct Entertainment Group (HUPEG) is behind the $500-million winning proposal, announced in 2020, to renovate downtown entertainment facilities. The details of the master agreement were revealed Wednesday.

Thirty years are guaranteed, said Ray Kessler, city manager of real estate but the contract could run for up to 49 years.

The group — which includes Carmen's Group, LiUNA, dpai architects, Meridian Credit Union, Paletta International — takes over operations and maintenance of all three venues on April 1, 2022.

There is no monetary contribution from the city, which also retains ownership of the lands and facilities.

Kessler said "confidential" commercial agreements have been negotiated. He said "high-level numbers" and a "framework" have been provided.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger said it was a "momentous day, indeed."

"Once we're past the predominance of this pandemic, people will be yearning for entertainment, people will be yearning for new housing opportunities," he said, calling it a "great opportunity" to bridge economic recovery.

City staff started looking into having the private-sector redevelop the three venues on a motion from council in 2017.

"The signing of this master agreement is the 'end of the beginning', so now the real work begins as we embark on our ambitious and visionary plans," said PJ Mercanti, precinct group president and CEO of Carmen's Group.

City councillors ratified the agreement on Wednesday. Ward 4 (east Hamilton) councillor Sam Merulla said that it would save the city millions. A city media release estimates that amount as $155 million over 30 years.

"A lot of people didn't believe in it. A lot of people thought it was a headline-grabbing scenario," he said.

Arena renovations will take 2 years

FirstOntario Centre construction is expected to start in the fall of 2022. The city said it will take two years and be completed in two phases.

Proposed renovations — costing at least $50 million — include a new exterior façade and video board, a "transformation" of the lower bowl, an expanded concourse level, and a new curtaining system for the upper bowl balcony.

The group also proposed year-round access to street-level features on York Boulevard, like a Sports Lounge, e-Gaming zone, a food and drink options.

The long-term plan, the release says, envisions transforming into a "Distillery District-inspired area, with enhanced pedestrian capabilities and a complete live-work-play experience."

Should city council move forward with a $3.4-billion offer for light-rail transit (LRT) system in Hamilton, running alternately down King and Main streets, the construction may overlap.

Ryan McHugh, city manager of tourism and events, said he believes HUPEG is supportive of that deal and "would welcome the short-term pain" for "long-term benefits" of LRT.

He did not comment if simultaneous construction would compound traffic or obstacles for surrounding businesses, but said HUPEG is working with existing tenants on phasing construction.

Construction at the Hamilton Convention Centre and the FirstOntario Concert Hall will start after the arena renovations are done.

The latest city release says that plan includes $12.5 million in capital upgrades, expansion and aesthetic enhancements to the existing Hamilton Convention Centre and Concert Hall, plus a one-time $2 million contribution to the Art Gallery of Hamilton.

The group previously said more than $16 million in upgrades were planned for those venues. Kessler said "adjustments" had been made.

"They certainly identified issues with each of the properties as they had undertaken their review and due diligence, and we negotiated what the outcome of those considerations would be," he said.





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Old Posted Jun 10, 2021, 7:53 PM
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It's a done deal. New owners of FirstOntario Centre.
Just to clarify, the city retains ownership... HUPEG is operating and maintaining the facilities for 49 years (and probably forecasting a lot of revenue from the other developments they're planning, plus events)
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2021, 8:03 PM
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Looks like a smart deal for Hamilton. Best of both worlds.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2021, 8:20 PM
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Looks like a smart deal for Hamilton. Best of both worlds.
It seems to be.

Hamilton city council wants the best of things, but is never interested in paying for them. So the airport was leased to an operator over a long term, and given freedom to expand the business there (mostly cargo, but passenger too)... and it seems to be working. This deal may bear similar fruits.

Perhaps that's the same in many cities across Canada, but this one has had a bad track record of investing in itself. For decades.
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ECHL APPROVES TWO EXPANSION MEMBERSHIPS

"The ECHL announced on Tuesday that the League’s Board of Governors has approved expansion applications for Coralville, Iowa and Trois-Rivières, Quebec to begin play for the 2021-22 Season.

Coralville and Trois-Rivières are both owned by Dean MacDonald through Deacon Sports and Entertainment, which also owns the Newfoundland Growlers in the league. Coralville will play out of Xtreme Arena, a 5,100 seat venue which was completed in September 2020, while Trois-Rivières will play out of Le Nouveau Colisée, a new construction that will host 4,390 fans."


https://www.echl.com/news/2021/1/ech...on-memberships
The name and logo of the Trois-Rivières ECHL franchise were unveiled yesterday. The logo is pretty snazzy IMO.

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Old Posted Jun 11, 2021, 11:23 AM
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That is a super slick logo!
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It's a done deal. New owners of FirstOntario Centre.

Black and gold seems to be the colours for Hamilton sports teams: Tiger-Cats, Honey Badgers, Bulldogs. Is there a baseball team?
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2021, 11:31 PM
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There's Hamilton Cardinals at Bernie Arbour stadium. Instead of black and gold there colour is red and gold. Close enough haha.

https://hamiltoncardinals.ca/
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