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Old Posted May 1, 2019, 11:10 AM
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89 Richmond | 6 fl | Proposed

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New 6 storey mixed use building with personal service spa

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Old Posted May 1, 2019, 5:04 PM
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Office of Councillor Jeff Leiper, Kitchissippi Ward, Ottawa | (613) 580-2485 | [email protected]

Posted April 29, 2019

Many community members have been inquiring about the future of 89 Richmond Rd, a property that experienced a fire in 2017 and has sat vacant since. The property owners are now ready to move forward with a proposed development at that location. The property owners are proposing to construct a six (6) storey mixed-use building on the subject property. The basement, first, and second floors will be comprised of a purpose built 497m2 spa and health centre, while the third through sixth floor will contain 14 residential dwelling units. The residential unit mix includes one- and two-bedroom units. The required parking is one (1) space and the applicant is proposing to provide zero (0) spaces.

The application is not yet available on DevApps, but will be shortly. The applications will be for a Site Plan Control, Zoning By-Law Amendment and an Official Plan Amendment.

Our office is hosting a public open house for residents to review the development details further and to provide feedback. The open house will be Wednesday, May 8 at 6:30pm at the Hilson Ave Public School – gym. The applicant's team will be on hand to run through the two applications, and the lead planner will be available to field process questions. Jeff will also facilitate a Q + A.

If you can’t attend the open house, we would encourage you to review the application further on DevApps once available and send any comments on the applications to our office ([email protected] and / or [email protected]), as well as to the lead planner on the file Jenny Kluke ([email protected]).

Thank you and we hope to see you there.

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Old Posted May 8, 2019, 10:47 AM
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Old Posted May 8, 2019, 11:49 AM
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Old Posted May 9, 2019, 1:55 AM
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Very competent, supremely urban, fabric building. Not a stunner, but a background building that does very well what it's meant to do.
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I really like it, actually. The proposal says it was allowed 1 parking spot but they're proposing 0. Is that for the residential as well? Are they condos?
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I really like it, actually. The proposal says it was allowed 1 parking spot but they're proposing 0. Is that for the residential as well? Are they condos?
You can build a residential building with 12 units and not provide parking, and since they are proposing 14, they want relief from that requirement. So 0 parking spots for the entire residential and commercial development. They're proposing to build right to the full lot line with this, even the garden at the back is just a roof for the spa pools that are in the basement level.

The design is interesting, but I'm not sure it's a good fit for Westboro. That block is already boring, lifeless and unable to sustain businesses with the Ashcroft condos and this just lumps more of the same blankness with a soupçon of brutalism. I would prefer to see something more organic and visually light.
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Yeah. Recent development has done nothing to bridge the Great Dead Zone between Tweedsmuir and Western. A wasted opportunity.
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Old Posted May 10, 2019, 1:30 AM
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Is there any other example in the city where a building's foundation virtually takes up 100% of the lot? I did not know this was even possible especially on a lot this small and backing on to a residential property where they have to dig up someone's yard to put the forms in. Looking at the site in person I think this is too much building for the lot size, the owner really needs to buy the property next door to build a 6 storey building properly. Such irony that a purpose-built building for a spa barely has any room to breathe.
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Is there any other example in the city where a building's foundation virtually takes up 100% of the lot? I did not know this was even possible especially on a lot this small and backing on to a residential property where they have to dig up someone's yard to put the forms in. Looking at the site in person I think this is too much building for the lot size, the owner really needs to buy the property next door to build a 6 storey building properly. Such irony that a purpose-built building for a spa barely has any room to breathe.
Yes, it's quite common everywhere, but especially downtown where lots are smaller and closer to existing buildings.
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Old Posted May 10, 2019, 5:17 AM
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Yes, it's quite common everywhere, but especially downtown where lots are smaller and closer to existing buildings.
Not just the sides but the back lot line as well? Here's the lateral section showing how it fills the lot from the back to front. As I mentioned earlier that back garden is just a green roof.


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Old Posted May 10, 2019, 8:39 PM
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Not just the sides but the back lot line as well? Here's the lateral section showing how it fills the lot from the back to front. As I mentioned earlier that back garden is just a green roof.

I'll try to find what they normally do for sites like this in my old textbook. But just to clarify, you're asking if it's possible to build foundations on the property line from an engineering standpoint, not a by-law, right? I don't know what the by-laws permit, but for engineering it is definitely possible. Normally you dig down and shore up the walls around the site and then build the walls from the inside out. There are different kinds of ways of building the foundation structure.

I'll get back to you in a bit.
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I was referring to bylaws, as I'm not aware the city would allow this. I don't know how emergency egress from the rear would be in this case, There's one door for all 14 units, what if there's an incident blocking it?
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I was referring to bylaws, as I'm not aware the city would allow this. I don't know how emergency egress from the rear would be in this case, There's one door for all 14 units, what if there's an incident blocking it?
Ah, well then that's a bit different. I think downtown you can, but I don't know about if it's permitted with this site here. It could be if it's below grade?
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2019, 5:37 AM
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updated plans with new materials posted on devapps
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