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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 1:54 AM
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So basically it covered both areas.
Looks like it did indeed. Maybe some new developer will come up with something similar. I'd love to see a pedestrian bridge over the creek connecting buildings in a new development, and it might be the best way to get something built on the WCC property.
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 2:28 AM
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Would anyone tell me has WeWork started construction?

This is a free-lance reporter from China, interested in We Company's real estate investment in Austin...
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Would anyone tell me has WeWork started construction?
Nothing has started construction on this site. There are towers planned, but they may not be built for a variety of reasons.
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Old Posted Sep 26, 2019, 3:27 AM
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Nothing has started construction on this site. There are towers planned, but they may not be built for a variety of reasons.
Thank your for answering me!

For what reasons for example?
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Thank your for answering me!

For what reasons for example?
WeWork bought the site less than a year ago, and the towers proposed for the site were already permitted by previous developers. There has never been a formal announcement by WeWork as to whether or not they plan to build the towers as currently permitted or if they were going to build something else.
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WeWork bought the site less than a year ago, and the towers proposed for the site were already permitted by previous developers. There has never been a formal announcement by WeWork as to whether or not they plan to build the towers as currently permitted or if they were going to build something else.
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Thank you a lot!
Also apparently the company is not doing well. Read previous posts on the previous page.
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Hoo boy -- if you have 10 minutes, I highly recommend this brutal brutal takedown of WeWork, CEO Neumann, and private equity culture in general. Probably the most salient point for us in the whole thing is how fragile WeWork actually seems, and how exposed the RE markets in major tech metros (like ours) are to a potential Chapter 11 filing by WeWork.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...m-neumann.html
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Hoo boy -- if you have 10 minutes, I highly recommend this brutal brutal takedown of WeWork, CEO Neumann, and private equity culture in general. Probably the most salient point for us in the whole thing is how fragile WeWork actually seems, and how exposed the RE markets in major tech metros (like ours) are to a potential Chapter 11 filing by WeWork.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...m-neumann.html
Great article! Thanks for the link.
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Hoo boy -- if you have 10 minutes, I highly recommend this brutal brutal takedown of WeWork, CEO Neumann, and private equity culture in general. Probably the most salient point for us in the whole thing is how fragile WeWork actually seems, and how exposed the RE markets in major tech metros (like ours) are to a potential Chapter 11 filing by WeWork.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...m-neumann.html
WeWork's business model always seemed like some kind of pipe dream (turns out that might be an accurate description in more ways than one) to me. This article confirms that suspicion and then some. I hope the fallout is minimal, but this could be a chilling development in an economic down cycle. Hell, it could even be the cause of an economic down cycle in commercial RE development.
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WeWork's sudden downfall may actual benefit downtown Austin development. Their rumored 1,000,000 Sq. Ft. office project next to IHOP and the former Waller Park Place project are unlikely to happen now because WeWork will probably sell the sites to raise money. That takes a lot of proposed space off the market and will allow a real developer(s) to control the sites. It's amazing how so much prime downtown real estate has had a decades long history of failed development during such amazing boom times.
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The issue is wework is a major tennant in lots of commercial real estate downtown and around austin.

It could cause a quick drop in demand and rapid oversupply.
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The issue is wework is a major tennant in lots of commercial real estate downtown and around austin.

It could cause a quick drop in demand and rapid oversupply.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking in the immediate term. Lots of suddenly-open coworking space up for grabs.

Medium/longer term, I think The ATX has it -- prime open lots ready for someone to pounce on them.
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It's interesting, I've worked out of Fibercove (co-working on S Lamar) since 2015. I really dig it. I had my own office since 2001 and I will never go back. Most of the people at Fibercove seem to like it and have stayed long term. Parking is a huge plus, obviously.

All this to say, I do believe that co-working is a large part of the future, just maybe not as big and fast as We-Work wanted to grow. Businesses often can't help themselves to grow too big too soon.

I just hope they turn down Nate's inevitable offer....and another one!
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The issue is wework is a major tennant in lots of commercial real estate downtown and around austin.

It could cause a quick drop in demand and rapid oversupply.
Not on a massive scale.

WeWork currently has 8 leased spaces in Austin totaling 515,000 square feet, and they are in lease negotiations for an additional 210,000 square feet, which probably won't happen now. 515,000 sf spread out across 8 buildings is not that much in the grand scheme of things. Austin won't be impacted as significantly as New York or Chicago, where WeWork is the largest and second-largest tenant in those cities, respectively.

Edited to add, they are in 7 leased spaces and own their building at 801 Barton Springs.
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Not on a massive scale.

WeWork currently has 8 leased spaces in Austin totaling 515,000 square feet, and they are in lease negotiations for an additional 210,000 square feet, which probably won't happen now. 515,000 sf spread out across 8 buildings is not that much in the grand scheme of things. Austin won't be impacted as significantly as New York or Chicago, where WeWork is the largest and second-largest tenant in those cities, respectively.

Edited to add, they are in 7 leased spaces and own their building at 801 Barton Springs.
In the short term though that's about 60% of the square footage of the republic. Now, lots of that is in lower quality office that is older stock. So it wouldn't affect a high end lease but would have some impact

like I doubt Google or Facebook would be interested in One American Center.
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I was also under the impression that WeWork was doing well specifically in the Austin market.....and that was the reason they were going to buy and develop those vacant lots. If the company as a whole goes under maybe the Austin properties are some of the few profitable leases they have and may continue to function in their current form?
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2019, 6:18 PM
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I was also under the impression that WeWork was doing well specifically in the Austin market.....and that was the reason they were going to buy and develop those vacant lots. If the company as a whole goes under maybe the Austin properties are some of the few profitable leases they have and may continue to function in their current form?
Who knows how well they are doing in the Austin market. The cited article suggests that they have been juggling the books to create the impression that their existing leased properties in NY and Chicago were filled with tenants and generating profits. This paragraph from the NY Magazine article seems to sum up WeWork's current predicament:

"There probably are a minority of WeWorks that are cash-flow positive and could sustain a corporate headquarters with 80 percent fewer staff. They have 15,000 employees; I don’t see any path that doesn’t involve 5,000 to 10,000 layoffs in the next 60 days. Then the question is how to restructure. This is now a distressed asset that requires immediate restructuring. So does SoftBank want to put more capital in? If SoftBank does not want to put more capital in, they can’t cut costs fast enough and it will be a Chapter 11. If SoftBank does want to put money in, they need to basically cut costs. They’re going to need to close a massive number of offices, and they’re going to need to lay off somewhere between a third and two-thirds of staff at corporate. The consensual hallucination here continues. This is a distressed asset in free fall that is inarguably worth less than zero. Because all we have here is an entity burning $700 million a quarter."

And this: " There’s reports that they were giving 100 percent commissions to put tenants in the buildings and then figuring out some sort of accounting jiujitsu to try to turn those expenses into revenues."

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Yeah, that's what I was thinking in the immediate term. Lots of suddenly-open coworking space up for grabs.

Medium/longer term, I think The ATX has it -- prime open lots ready for someone to pounce on them.
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2019, 7:39 PM
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WeWork only has about 5M square feet in NYC. That's just a drop in the bucket for the 550M square feet available in NYC.
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