The Official PEI Project Thread

[MonctonRad]

Looks nice. Where is it located???

[josh_cat_eyes]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Looks nice. Where is it located???

Across from the now former Sears, next to Kent.

[braymondg]

10-unit redevelopment proposed for former Home Hardware in Stratford

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edw...rd-home-hardware-redevelopment-1.4537145



"The town of Stratford has grown rapidly in recent years and more commercial space is needed," Dunphy said.

"We feel that there is a demand for additional commercial development in Stratford and we think this development is certainly going to help push that and make that happen and hopefully it will be a bit of a catalyst for additional development going forward," Dunphy said.

Recent 2018 estimates have put the population over the 10,000 mark.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by braymondg

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Recent 2018 estimates have put the population over the 10,000 mark.

Pretty soon Stratford will be chasing Summerside as PEI's second largest municipality!

[braymondg]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Pretty soon Stratford will be chasing Summerside as PEI's second largest municipality!

The way this town is growing, I'd say that by 2025 Stratford could be getting pretty close to surpassing Summerside as the second most populated municipality. That would be odd, having a town bigger than a city. The last stats showed a 13.2% growth since 2011-2016 for Stratford, while Summerside was .5%.
The way buildings are going up in Stratford and subdivisions appearing almost overnight, it is well over the 10,000 mark from the 2016 population of 9,753 by now.
Every time I go there, something new is be built. An example of this is the open fields at the end of the Kinlock Rd on the east side are pretty well filled in with houses now.
I sometimes wonder when this all may be amalgamated into a Charlottetown Capital Region including Cornwall, similar to Halifax HRM.
I could also see Stratford having its own Walmart someday. Truro is just over 12,000 and it has one. Canadian Tire may be a possibility too, maybe. Time will tell but the way the town is growing, it may happen.

Stratford - ~2018 pop. 10,158
Summerside - 2016 pop. 14,751
For comparison:
Truro - 2016 pop. 12,261
Amherst - 2016 pop. 9,413
New Glasgow - 2016 pop. 9,075

[josh_cat_eyes]

Originally Posted by braymondg

The way this town is growing, I'd say that by 2025 Stratford could be getting pretty close to surpassing Summerside as the second most populated municipality. That would be odd, having a town bigger than a city. The last stats showed a 13.2% growth since 2011-2016 for Stratford, while Summerside was .5%.
The way buildings are going up in Stratford and subdivisions appearing almost overnight, it is well over the 10,000 mark from the 2016 population of 9,753 by now.
Every time I go there, something new is be built. An example of this is the open fields at the end of the Kinlock Rd on the east side are pretty well filled in with houses now.
I sometimes wonder when this all may be amalgamated into a Charlottetown Capital Region including Cornwall, similar to Halifax HRM.
I could also see Stratford having its own Walmart someday. Truro is just over 12,000 and it has one. Canadian Tire may be a possibility too, maybe. Time will tell but the way the town is growing, it may happen.

Stratford - ~2018 pop. 10,158
Summerside - 2016 pop. 14,751
For comparison:
Truro - 2016 pop. 12,261
Amherst - 2016 pop. 9,413
New Glasgow - 2016 pop. 9,075

Stratford should have an Atlantic Superstore and Canadian Tire by now. Probably even Kent too!

Riverview is still a town and it’s bigger than Summerside and Campbellton both of which are cities.

[Taeolas]

Just looking at an overview of the area on Google Maps (and not knowing the local layout at all), it seems to me that Stratford is lacking a central core to really pull things together. Just looking at the maps, all I really see is a very spread out series of suburbs and no real central core, (unlike Summerside which seems to have a central area).

Seems to me that it should/will be pulled into the Charlottetown CA in the very near future, if it isn't already there.

That said, with 10k people it's probably way past due for a lot of core retail elements, like the big name grocers, a WalMart, and the usual cluster of fast food restaurants (McDs, Subway, KFC, etc.... )

Seems strange to not have those at 10k people, when you have towns like Woodstock, NB (~5000) with the full set of them (Walmart, Canadian Tire, Superstore, Sobeys, KFC, DQ, McDs, PizzaHuts, Subways, 3 Tims, etc....)

[OliverD]

Originally Posted by Taeolas

Just looking at an overview of the area on Google Maps (and not knowing the local layout at all), it seems to me that Stratford is lacking a central core to really pull things together. Just looking at the maps, all I really see is a very spread out series of suburbs and no real central core, (unlike Summerside which seems to have a central area).

Seems to me that it should/will be pulled into the Charlottetown CA in the very near future, if it isn't already there.

That said, with 10k people it's probably way past due for a lot of core retail elements, like the big name grocers, a WalMart, and the usual cluster of fast food restaurants (McDs, Subway, KFC, etc.... )

Seems strange to not have those at 10k people, when you have towns like Woodstock, NB (~5000) with the full set of them (Walmart, Canadian Tire, Superstore, Sobeys, KFC, DQ, McDs, PizzaHuts, Subways, 3 Tims, etc....)

Kind of an apples and oranges comparison since Stratford is just a suburb of Charlottetown and thus has easy access to all of those things. But Stratford does have a Sobeys, a No Frills, a liquor store, several fast food chain restaurants, etc.

[Taeolas]

Originally Posted by OliverD

Kind of an apples and oranges comparison since Stratford is just a suburb of Charlottetown and thus has easy access to all of those things. But Stratford does have a Sobeys, a No Frills, a liquor store, several fast food chain restaurants, etc.

Yeah I figured as much looking at the map. Woodstock's servicing not just itself but most of the Valley from Perth Andover to Nackawic give or take.

Still 10k people on the other side of a bridge from the services should be approaching critical mass for the services on their side. It probably just needs the town to designate a retail block where the boxes can build up, along with an investor to buy into it for a Smart Centres block. Once someone does that, it will probably see the stores rush in to set up.

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Taeolas

Just looking at an overview of the area on Google Maps (and not knowing the local layout at all), it seems to me that Stratford is lacking a central core to really pull things together. Just looking at the maps, all I really see is a very spread out series of suburbs and no real central core, (unlike Summerside which seems to have a central area).

Seems to me that it should/will be pulled into the Charlottetown CA in the very near future, if it isn't already there.

That said, with 10k people it's probably way past due for a lot of core retail elements, like the big name grocers, a WalMart, and the usual cluster of fast food restaurants (McDs, Subway, KFC, etc.... )

Seems strange to not have those at 10k people, when you have towns like Woodstock, NB (~5000) with the full set of them (Walmart, Canadian Tire, Superstore, Sobeys, KFC, DQ, McDs, PizzaHuts, Subways, 3 Tims, etc....)

Stratford (and Cornwall), as well as a good chunk of central Queens County are already part of the Charlottetown CA. The City of Charlottetown itself is about 39,000 or so. The CA is about 69,000.

Freddy is about 50% larger than Charlottetown (comparing CA to CA). It doesn't seem that way though when you do a walking tour of the two cities. They feel about the same size, and in term of urbanity, I would give the edge to Charlottetown.

No offense to Freddy though. Freddy is on the verge of CMA status. It'll be decades before the same will happen to Charlottetown.

[OliverD]

Yeah, Charlottetown has a very nice downtown core considering its relatively small population. It reminds me of some of the smaller New England cities in that sense.

[Taeolas]

Certainly. I wasn't really comparing with Freddy.

Freddy's advantage is that Nashwaaksis more or less kept pace with the city, so North Side and South Side stayed balanced. (South side is a bit more dominant, but most services are on both sides of the river). Nashwaaksis having a downtown area (Main street) probably really helped in that respect. That is probably why Freddy's core and Charlottetown's core feel so similar (and even why Charlottetown's core feels bigger)

In Stratford's case, it doesn't look like it kept pace with Charlottetown's growth, and didn't have a good core to keep growing, so Charlottetown serviced the full region with no mirroring across the bay.

[billy1]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Stratford (and Cornwall), as well as a good chunk of central Queens County are already part of the Charlottetown CA. The City of Charlottetown itself is about 39,000 or so. The CA is about 69,000.

Freddy is about 50% larger than Charlottetown (comparing CA to CA). It doesn't seem that way though when you do a walking tour of the two cities. They feel about the same size, and in term of urbanity, I would give the edge to Charlottetown.

No offense to Freddy though. Freddy is on the verge of CMA status. It'll be decades before the same will happen to Charlottetown.

PEI suffered a historical under count in the 2016 population census (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-census-versus-population-estimate-1.4008361) of roughly 4.5% of its total population and 90% of that under count (approximately 6500 people total) was assumed to have taken place in Charlottetown. I remember reading an estimate that the Charlottetown population was roughly 75,000-76,000 in July 2017 (I could not find a link for this no matter how hard I tried)

Charlottetown and Fredericton would cater to roughly the same number of consumers on a daily basis. Fredericton's 100,000 person population covers over 5745 Sq KM (greater than PEI itself) Charlottetown's population of 76,000 covers only 798 Sq. KM. Queens county, where Charlottetown is located contains roughly 91,000 people (https://www.princeedwardisland.ca/sites/default/files/publications/pt_pop_rep_1.pdf) and only covers 2,020 Sq KM.

[billy1]

New condo/apartment proposed for Stratford.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-stratford-apartment-building-1.4551194

[MonctonRad]

Not bad. This will be quite visible from the Charlottetown waterfront across the harbour. I'm tremendously disappointed however to hear that there is public opposition to this proposal. There really aren't any residential neighbours in the vicinity of this proposed building. It's mostly unimproved shorefrontage. Why is there this backlash???

If Stratford wants to build a downtown core, a good way to start is to build some residential density. If you can accomplish this then retail and services will be sure to follow.

[hired_goons]

Not really a PEI development post but in any event...
I am curious to know if there has been any serious discussion in recent decades about PEI giving up independent provincehood and joining up with New Brunswick?
I can't see Islanders wanting anything to do with such an idea. But there are certain economies of scale that would save a ton of money and with the Feds doing SFA to help the east coast maybe this is an idea down the road.

[braymondg]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Not bad. This will be quite visible from the Charlottetown waterfront across the harbour. I'm tremendously disappointed however to hear that there is public opposition to this proposal. There really aren't any residential neighbours in the vicinity of this proposed building. It's mostly unimproved shorefrontage. Why is there this backlash???

If Stratford wants to build a downtown core, a good way to start is to build some residential density. If you can accomplish this then retail and services will be sure to follow.

The opposition is everywhere around here. In Stratford, I think the citizens are having a hard time deciding if they just want to be a sub of Charlottetown or to be a independent community with its own stores, education, etc.
The latest new growth in the town is the Kinlock Rd corridor with many new homes, apartments and condos being built. Most are unseen from the highway so to really see the growth factor you have to take a tour down the road. It really drives home the "bedroom community" image as most development is heading in that direction.
This latest proposal above will seal it for me that Stratford would rather remain as a residential area, relying on the larger commercial and educational infrastructure of Charlottetown. And that seems to be the idea within government which has a slow approach to establish schools to accommodate the growing population. There are no junior or senior high schools in the town. They are all bused over to Charlottetown. Additions to the elementary schools are underway this June but no plans or very little discussion about introducing higher level education institutions as yet. So in saying all that, if there was a impediment to further growth the lack of schools and commerce, may cause a slowdown in growth. This again is the decision that the town has to consider to move forward from a bedroom community or to an independent community.
What do you think?

[braymondg]

Anyone hear why the 300 Capital Drive Hampton Inn project has stalled. They have the footings in and the main level concrete and pillars in place but no action since the end of January. I hope this isn't tied up in a court someplace, or worse, IRAC. INPUT PLEASE!

[braymondg]

Just to give you some idea how fast Stratford is growing, here is the latest names on new streets which are all new streets in the following subdivisions.

The following street names were approved by Council as recommended by the Planning & Heritage Committee:
• Heather Drake Way
• Fiddler’s Green Way
• Reta Gerry Lane
• Clarey Way

Foxwoods Subdivision Street Names Approved

The following street names were approved for Foxwoods Subdivision as recommended by the Planning & Heritage Committee:
• Flourish Heights
• Maple Leaf Row
• Tulip Crescent
• Hyacinth Crescent
• Lavender Lane
• Jasmine Crescent
• Dandelion Court
• Poppy Court

Koughan Heights Subdivision Street Name Approved

The following street name was approved for Koughan Heights Subdivision as recommended by the Planning & Heritage Committee:
• Craigavon Court

[braymondg]

Media Release: Special Town Council Meeting Summary (February 28, 2018)

March 1, 2018 by stratfordadmin

For Immediate Release:  February 28, 2018

At a special meeting of Stratford Town Council this evening, Council passed 1st reading of a resolution to approve a zoning bylaw amendment, as modified by Council, to rezone a portion of parcel number 327973 from the Waterfront Mixed Use Zone (WMU) to the Waterfront Residential Zone (WR), and to rezone a portion from the Waterfront Public Space Zone (WPS) to the Waterfront Residential Zone (WR).  (See provided image)

After Stratford Town Council held a public meeting on January 3, 2018, where they heard concerns from residents on the original rezoning application, Council made modifications to the proposed zoning amendment to allow for more public park space on the waterfront within this area. The Town has an agreement in principle to purchase a portion of land on the waterfront side of the proposed development property which will allow for the additional green space on the waterfront.

Stratford Town Council also had to respect the land use map designation in considering the zoning request before them. The land in this zoning amendment, zoned as Waterfront Public Space Zone (WPS), was not publicly owned land and therefore Council acted to address resident concerns around green space and to preserve the vision for the area to the extent they were able to. The agreement will see the existing street, Michael Thomas Way, extended which will preserve the overall plan for the area.

The zoning bylaw amendment will now need to pass second reading and adoption at which time, if approved, will allow Pan American Properties Inc. the ability to apply to apply for a permit to construct a 79 unit, 5 storey apartment building with underground parking.