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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN
So what is the end game? Is it for white people to pack up and leave? For some level of government to pay money to a fund? How much money? Or kick white people off the stolen land and they all live in the city or a city? Would the First Nations like white people (and black people and brown people as well) to go back to Europe, Africa and Asia?
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The end game is self determination within a land that is theirs. They don't expect settlers to leave, just to acknowledge that the land used to belong to someone else and the terms under which we acquired it weren't exactly the most honest.
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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN
Give the Government of Canada a goal that first nations would like to attain (which I am pretty sure equality with the rest of Canada would be a good start) be that true sovereign government (with all the trappings that come along with it), wide swaths of the country broken up into new provinces run by FN, or a much larger payment of money monthly forever. Give us something, because all I'm hearing right now is that I'm (the royal I'm) a piece of shit squatting settler living on stolen land who rapes FN women and murder FN men.
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I've done that dozens (hundreds?) of times on this forum. Many times in this very discussion, if you go back and read the previous 47 pages we've written over the past 9 years. I did so in the post immediately before this. They don't get many responses.
Ideas on how to split land use planning and natural resource revenue between First Nations and provinces, dozens of ideas on political structures to bring indigenous self-determination to the same level as provinces or the federal government, ideas on how to reform education and health care, ways in which we could phase out the Indian Act with an indigenous people's constitution (or constitutions). I've written more than a few 5,000+ word essays on this board about what can be done.
What happens after I hit "submit reply"? The thread goes silent for a few months until someone posts another article about how bad things are for First Nations people. Then we trade insults and talking points until I post another long essay and the discussion dies again. I've been doing this for a decade and nothing has changed. Not at the political level (because this forum has 0 influence on anything that's actually relevant to anyone, anywhere) but also not at the personal level, where several of you will say I make good points or agree with me only to disagree again the next time we have the exact same discussion.
I don't know if the problem is an inability to listen or an inability to retain information or both, but I'm tired of having to write my way out of the same accusation multiple times a year just to be ignored after I hit "send". That's largely why I have, for the most part, given up on discussing this topic here. I changes nothing. I've spent an hour on this tonight, and to what end?