Calgary Public Transit II

[CTrainDude]

Originally Posted by Design-mind

Wow I was way off. I thought that this was going to be up and going fall 2014. What platforms still need revamping?

All the platforms will be done by the end of 2014, and you may see *limited* 4-car trains operations on rush hour keys.
All of the remaining platforms will probably fire up in spring, with the actual placement of platform extension planks scattered throughout weekends and long weekends (depending on the scope of work for each).

I believe Banff Trail is actually getting an entirely new platform, not just an extension, so it may be a bit more involved there then expected by many.

SAIT is probably the biggest project, having to remove the north building. 39th Ave will just get a quick extension toward the tunnel, while the three remaining NE platforms are pretty straight forward (other than the platforms themselves being curved), although, work on the new Bridgeland double-crossover will need to be done before some work here to allow for better single-tracking.

[Allan83]

Originally Posted by srperrycgy

That's great, but can we start a new thread to continue the HSR discussion please?

I’m not necessarily against that, but I don’t know why it should be done. This seems like the right thread to me. I’ll let a moderator make that call.


Here’s another related link:

Japan Pitches Its High-Speed Train [to the US northwest] With an Offer to Finance
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/busine...-americans-on-its-maglev-train.html?_r=0

[DizzyEdge]

Well I think the thing is HSR isn't really Calgary public transit.

[Ferreth]

Originally Posted by mersar

Things keep getting shuffled. That said the remaining NE platform extensions are simpler then the S/NW ones so you never know. The NE schedule is here

I don't know why they have zoo set for Aug long weekend. Flip with with Barlow Max bell and do the zoo Easter long weekend instead - much better for the zoo. Barlow Max Bell is good anytime for the low usage that one gets.

[RicoLance21]

Originally Posted by CTrainDude

All the platforms will be done by the end of 2014, and you may see *limited* 4-car trains operations on rush hour keys.
All of the remaining platforms will probably fire up in spring, with the actual placement of platform extension planks scattered throughout weekends and long weekends (depending on the scope of work for each).

I believe Banff Trail is actually getting an entirely new platform, not just an extension, so it may be a bit more involved there then expected by many.

SAIT is probably the biggest project, having to remove the north building. 39th Ave will just get a quick extension toward the tunnel, while the three remaining NE platforms are pretty straight forward (other than the platforms themselves being curved), although, work on the new Bridgeland double-crossover will need to be done before some work here to allow for better single-tracking.

I know some here think 39th Avenue station extension is going to be a challenge, but last time I went there, I know there is room to expand towards the tunnel. The electrical and controls equipment east of the tracks would have to be shifted though--likely even closer to the tunnel.

[Allan83]

Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

Well I think the thing is HSR isn't really Calgary public transit.

Well, it’s a form of public transit and about half the users would be Calgarians, but if a mod wants to make this topic into a separate thread that’s fine with me.

[srperrycgy]

HSR Thread in the BC/Alberta section:

http://http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=124447&page=44

[Full Mountain]

Originally Posted by VIce

The Blue line doesn't need more capacity. By CT's own numbers, ridership breakdown by leg is as follows:
South - 110,300
Northwest - 79,500
Northeast - 64,000
West - TBA (35,000 est.)
Downtown (free fare zone) - 22,800

Right now the whole driver towards 4-car trains is the southern leg of the Red line. Even if the Blue line is ready first, the Red line needs the PPHPD.

I certainly agree, but for quite a while the way the schedules were planned the Blue line was going to be capable before the Red.

[srperrycgy]

When the 4-car platforms are complete on the South Line, certain trains at peak hours could be run from 69th Street to Somerset in the same way that some trains run from the NE through downtown to the NW. Even before the remaining stations that need the 4 LRV upgrade are completed. Saying that, is the power infrastructure ready for a 4 LRV train yet?

[Design-mind]

I was very impressed with the great New Years Eve/New Years Day service. A few shots I took at LRT stations.

[Chadillaccc]

Great shots!

[DizzyEdge]

I wish there was a reasonably economical way to keep the Westbrook station platform area somewhat warm.

[mersar]

Originally Posted by srperrycgy

When the 4-car platforms are complete on the South Line, certain trains at peak hours could be run from 69th Street to Somerset in the same way that some trains run from the NE through downtown to the NW. Even before the remaining stations that need the 4 LRV upgrade are completed. Saying that, is the power infrastructure ready for a 4 LRV train yet?

I do believe that all the substation upgrades that were needed have been completed.

[RyLucky]

Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

I wish there was a reasonably economical way to keep the Westbrook station platform area somewhat warm.

I have an idea: let's surround the station in highrise buildings and fill the station with people.

[RicoLance21]

Originally Posted by RyLucky

I have an idea: let's surround the station in highrise buildings and fill the station with people.

I have one too! Cover up the trench from the west portal to 45 Street. That stretch, in my mind, should have been a tunnel with a super-wide sidewalk and bike lane on top.

[DizzyEdge]

I was wondering if a system of fans blowing towards the platform from both tunnels could keep warm air in the platform area rather than flowing out of the tunnel.

[Stang]

Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

I was wondering if a system of fans blowing towards the platform from both tunnels could keep warm air in the platform area rather than flowing out of the tunnel.

I have wondered that as well. Something like those air curtain things that stores in Banff use so they can keep their doors open in winter - except on a larger scale.

[suburbia]

Calgary’s make up has changed since last late-night transit last offered
http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/898635/...ged-since-last-late-night-transit-trial/

It would cost $350,000 to extend transit service to 2 a.m.
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roughly 2,000 people would use the extended late-night service.
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“When you break it down to 175 bucks per head — that’s too much money,"

[DizzyEdge]

My one concern is when you have a 'once off' extended service, I'm not sure if you're going to get a huge jump in numbers. It seems like the sort of thing where you need a service in place for 6 months or a year to truly see what kind of buy in you get, or in the case of just NYE service, do it for 5 years in a row so it's something people expect rather than think later "Oh right, I forgot that THIS year it's available"

[VIce]

The overnight service outage is fairly important for maintenance, has the lowest projected ridership, and the highest liability (in terms of vandalism, violence, vomit). However, I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to run regular 40-foot buses on the 201 and 202 routes for late-night service, especially on nights that expect heavy drinking.