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Old Posted Feb 8, 2012, 10:50 PM
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Canadian 2011 Census numbers

The results of the 2011 Census started being released today. Here are the largest cities.

City, 2011 population (2006 population), % growth

Toronto, 2,615,060 (2,503,281), 4.5
Montreal, 1,649,519 (1,620,693), 1.8
Calgary, 1,096,833 (988,812), 10.9
Ottawa, 883,391 (812,129), 8.8
Edmonton, 812,201 (730,372), 11.2
Mississauga, 713,443 (668,599), 6.7
Winnipeg, 663,617 (633,451), 4.8
Vancouver, 603,502 (578,041), 4.4
Brampton, 523,911 (433,806), 20.8
Hamilton, 519,949 (504,559), 3.1
Quebec, 516,622 (491,142), 5.2
Surrey, 468,251 (394,976), 18.6


Metro Area, 2011 population (2006 population), % growth

Toronto, 5,583,064 (5,113,149), 9.2
Montreal, 3,824,221 (3,635,556), 5.2
Vancouver, 2,313,328 (2,116,581), 9.3
Ottawa-Gatineau, 1,236,324 (1,133,633), 9.1
Calgary, 1,214,839 (1,079,310), 12.6
Edmonton, 1,159,869 (1,034,945), 12.1
Winnipeg, 730,018 (694,668), 5.1
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Why'd you include Winnipeg in the CMA list but not Quebec City, which is larger, and Hamilton, which has just 10K less than Winnipeg.

Full table: http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recens...bleau.cfm?LANG=Eng&T=201&S=3&O=D&RPP=150

CMA / 2011 / 2006 / %
Toronto............. 5,583,064 / 5,113,149 / 9.2
Montréal........... 3,824,221 / 3,635,556 / 5.2
Vancouver......... 2,313,328 / 2,116,581 / 9.3
Ottawa............. 1,236,324 / 1,133,633 / 9.1
Calgary............. 1,214,839 / 1,079,310 / 12.6
Edmonton.......... 1,159,869 / 1,034,945 / 12.1
Québec City ..... 765,706 / 719,153 / 6.5
Winnipeg........... 730,018 / 694,668 / 5.1
Hamilton............ 721,053 / 692,911 / 4.1
Kitchener-Wat.... 477,160 / 451,235 / 5.7
London.............. 474,786 / 457,720 / 3.7
St. Catharine's.... 392,184 / 390,317 / 0.5
Halifax............... 390,328 / 372,858 / 4.7
Oshawa............. 356,177 / 330,594 / 7.7
Victoria............. 344,615 / 330,088 / 4.4
Windsor............. 319,246 / 323,342 / -1.3

Canada's national population: 33,476,688

Keep in mind, these are preliminary results. The final, official results won't be released until September of 2013.

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A lot of agencies combine Toronto's metro numbers with Hamilton and Oshawa to get a better picture of Toronto's metro-area population. I think that's a reasonable approach.

In that case, Toronto-Hamilton-Oshawa would be 6,660,294 rather than Toronto's 5,583,064.
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Seems as though the Stats Canada estimates over the past year (or perhaps couple of years) was too generous for many cities/metro areas.
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As of last year the GTA was just over 6.1 million and the Greater Golden Horseshoe was just shy of 8.7 million.
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@ Tablemtn: That's called the GTA. Except, Hamilton isn't included (rightfully so) because it is a distinct region from Toronto, rather than just another Toronto 'burb. Both Toronto and Hamilton share the suburb of Burlington. Washington: Baltimore; Toronto: Hamilton; Manchester: Leeds; Amsterdam: Utrecht; Seattle: Olympia; Chicago: Milwaukee; Tokyo: Yokohama; etc.

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Seems as though the Stats Canada estimates over the past year (or perhaps couple of years) was too generous for many cities/metro areas.
That'd be because the estimates include people who otherwise don't fill out census forms and transient populations. By 2013, the official numbers will be corrected to fix that (the 2006 census numbers were boosted by 3%).
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That is an amazing number for the Golden Horseshoe.

Greater Calgary, which is more comprehensive than the CMA, also includes the adjacent Municipal District of Foothills, the Town of Okotoks, and the Town of High River bringing the entire regional population closer to 1.3 million.

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Tokyo: Yokohama; etc.
Yokohama is part of the Tokyo metropolitan area...fittingly, as its right across a small river.


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Seems as though the Stats Canada estimates over the past year (or perhaps couple of years) was too generous for many cities/metro areas.
This is generally true of population estimates vs. census figures in any country (due to the many people who don't fill out their census forms).
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That'd be because the estimates include people who otherwise don't fill out census forms and transient populations. By 2013, the official numbers will be corrected to fix that (the 2006 census numbers were boosted by 3%).
Makes sense..Thanks
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That is an amazing number for the Golden Horseshoe.
It's only about a million shy of Chicagoland...
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At a bare minimum, Toronto's metro numbers should include Oshawa (which I presume includes Whitby and probably Ajax as well.) Where is the official cut-off between Toronto's metro and Oshawa? Pickering, perhaps?

I can definitely see including Hamilton in with the metro area, but I also see it as a distinct metro area of its own. I guess I really see most of the "Golden Horseshoe" as one metro area, quite frankly...

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According to my calculations (assuming I didn't leave out or double count any census tracts), the following roughly 4.5 square miles of downtown Toronto increased from 132,434 in 2006 to 175,064 in 2011. That is a whopping 32.2% increase over 5 years.

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Downtown Vancouver had 99,233 people in 2011:

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Except, Hamilton isn't included (rightfully so) because it is a distinct region from Toronto
Hamilton is a distinct city from Toronto, but it merges right into the rest of the Toronto metro area rather seamlessly. You even have the skyway leaping across the water between Hamilton and Burlington.

Also, I'd merge the Vancouver metro with the Abbotsford-Mission metro, for a total of 2,483,519 people in that particular estimate.
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Its all based on commuter percentages. If enough people don't commute into the core city, they are not considered part of the metro region. Which explains why Oshawa is not part of Toronto's metro region, but is part of the GTA.

Toronto's inner city population is now approaching the 1 million mark, with about 990,000 residents in about 54.6 sq miles. Not bad
That includes the old Toronto, East York, and York.
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According to my calculations (assuming I didn't leave out or double count any census tracts), the following roughly 4.5 square miles of downtown Toronto increased from 132,434 in 2006 to 175,064 in 2011. That is a whopping 32.2% increase over 5 years.

This explains why Downtown Toronto seems so crowded and bustling. Thank god people are moving downtown, the stress on the subways and transit should be alleviated because of this.
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Statistics Canada has a rule that once a CMA is created, it can't be dissolved or added to another CMA. It makes things easier for people doing longitudinal analysis because you always have the same set of metros. Another reason is that the government uses CMAs for many programs and funding formulas, in which case statistics are needed for those specific geographies.

Statistics Canada does not have an equivalent to the US Census Bureau's CSA, but the Ontario government does define several higher level geographies, such as the Greater Golden Horseshoe (GGH) and the Greater Toronto and Hamilton Area (GTHA).
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This explains why Downtown Toronto seems so crowded and bustling. Thank god people are moving downtown, the stress on the subways and transit should be alleviated because of this.
Have to agree, during my few visits to downtown Toronto, i'm always borderline shocked at how busy the city seems...if only we could get American downtowns to be as heavily used as Torontos is.
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At a bare minimum, Toronto's metro numbers should include Oshawa (which I presume includes Whitby and probably Ajax as well.) Where is the official cut-off between Toronto's metro and Oshawa? Pickering, perhaps?

I can definitely see including Hamilton in with the metro area, but I also see it as a distinct metro area of its own. I guess I really see most of the "Golden Horseshoe" as one metro area, quite frankly...

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Actually Ajax (and Pickering) are officially considered part of Toronto's CMA. Oshawa's CMA is Oshawa, Whitby and Clarington (mostly the communities of Bowmanville, Courtice, Newcastle and Darlington).
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@ Tablemtn: That's called the GTA. Except, Hamilton isn't included (rightfully so) because it is a distinct region from Toronto, rather than just another Toronto 'burb. Both Toronto and Hamilton share the suburb of Burlington. Washington: Baltimore; Toronto: Hamilton; Manchester: Leeds; Amsterdam: Utrecht; Seattle: Olympia; Chicago: Milwaukee; Tokyo: Yokohama; etc.
Tokyo: Yokohama; 25km center to center
Amsterdam: Utrecht; 30km

Manchester: Leeds; 60km
Toronto: Hamilton; 60km
Washington: Baltimore; 60km

Seattle: Olympia; 85km



Chicago: Milwaukee; 140km
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