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Old Posted Mar 6, 2009, 12:27 AM
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Well, at one point they may have. At least the gangsta wannabes.

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Old Posted Mar 6, 2009, 12:50 AM
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Well, at one point they may have. At least the gangsta wannabes.

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Old Posted Mar 6, 2009, 1:26 AM
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o/~ even if you in the Benz I remember you were riding on the *skytrain chimes* o/~

but the song does condone getting a ride for free....
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2009, 7:12 PM
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I went to the site office last week, nothing really there as of yet that we have not seen on this thread, but i did give them an earful of what i think about the development of the line. Such as recommending that the line should open with 8 stations, and those two extra stations should be at Cameron and beside Coquitlam Center, not in Poco (there is no need for poco to have 3 stations) etc...
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2009, 7:23 PM
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Interesting thoughts.

Here's one... if they put in a station at Cameron... what zone would it be in? It would be on the boundary, either in the median or on the Burnaby side... but if it was in Zone 2, people coming from the tri-cities can't travel the whole evergreen line without upzoning. If it's Zone-3, people in the Cameron area can't get to Lougheed without upzoning.

I'm thinking Zone-2 would make more sense as it's more a Burnaby station than Coquitlam... but Lougheed is a bus terminal for Coquitlam and Burnaby.

It COULD be a Zone 2/3 station, meaning when you buy a ticket it asks you which zone you would like, but disembarking passengers from both zones could get off there.

Ahh... these are the problems that a zone system opens up.
This happens a lot in Europe. If you check out the London Underground Map, you'll see that some stations are in both zones. So if you start or end your trip at one of these stations, you can travel to or from either zone for the one zone fare.

Check out the LU map at the following link and look at stations in the Northwest - Moor Park, Hendon Central, Willingdon Green, Hampstead and many others around the network - they're all in both zones.

http://www.tourstolondon.co.uk/london-underground-map.gif
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2009, 7:31 PM
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Distance based is the only way to go, just like driving a car, the further you travel the more you pay.
     
     
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Yep, and all possible with in/out faregates, like in many other places. Living on the border sucks, I did it living around Lougheed Mall.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2009, 11:17 PM
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Or how it costs $2.50 to go from Patterson to Lougheed Station but $3.75 to go from Patterson to Joyce.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2009, 11:35 PM
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Living on the border sucks, I did it living around Lougheed Mall.
But assuming you live only a few minutes away from the border and you're willing to do a bit of walking, you can basically go to anywhere except Vancouver and North Shore using 1 zone fare

(Note: This doesn't work with a monthly pass though)
     
     
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I went to the site office last week, nothing really there as of yet that we have not seen on this thread, but i did give them an earful of what i think about the development of the line. Such as recommending that the line should open with 8 stations, and those two extra stations should be at Cameron and beside Coquitlam Center, not in Poco (there is no need for poco to have 3 stations) etc...
ummm the line is not going anywhere near POCO

POMO maybe
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2009, 2:50 AM
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You know what i mean, haha, PoMo
     
     
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From the Tri-City news:

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Despite announcements, still lots of Evergreen work to do
By Diane Strandberg - The Tri-City News

Published: March 19, 2009 2:00 PM
Updated: March 19, 2009 2:33 PM

The money is (almost) in the bank but there are more questions than answers on the long-awaited Evergreen Line to Coquitlam.

In fact, you could say the silence is deafening, with provincial Ministry of Transportation officials saying little more than the project is moving ahead with a 2014 completion date.

But behind the scenes, it's likely officials are busily trying to answer some of the questions that have dogged the project from the get go.

Coquitlam Mayor Richard Stewart has spoken with Transportation Minister Kevin Falcon and is as up-to-date as anyone on the project. But even he says there are a lot of things that needed to sorted out.

"What's going on? A whole bunch of engineering... We know where it's going but every single element must be designed structurally. Land must be acquired and a whole bunch of planning for a really deep tunnel," Stewart said, acknowledging that at least a year of planning work lies ahead.

Two weeks ago, a project office was opened at the Coquitlam Transit centre, staffed by communications specialists from Kirk and Co. Consulting, which has Gateway and TransLink on its client list.

But other than a press conference, little else has emanated from that office.

Some of the remaining questions include:

• How will the tunnel under North Road be built?

• What does CP Rail say about the rapid transit route along its rail corridor?

• How will the project be staged with the Murray Clarke connector in Port Moody, where the connector is expected to cross over the rapid transit line?

• How will residents and businesses will be affected?

• Who will build the project?

• How will a $173-million funding gap be filled with private sector equity?

One of the biggest issues remains funding because even though Falcon has made assurances that the $173 million gap will be filled, one of the other biggest contributors, TransLink, is facing insolvency unless it can push through a seven-point plan to generate revenue.

The public will soon get to weigh in on the plan to raise revenue through a new car levy, a tax on cargo containers, higher transit fares or hikes to fuel taxes, parking lot taxes and property taxes, and a share of the provincial property transfer tax.

But it will be up to the region's mayors to approve it despite its political unpalatability. According to Mayor Stewart, TransLink has never been on a solid financial footing and something drastic needs to be done to preserve the region's transportation authority.

"It's finally being addressed," he said. "I am working hard with the others mayors to see that it is addressed because TransLInk delivers a massive service."

The shiny, new project office notwithstanding, Evergreen, too, is in doubt unless TransLink can find new revenues and muster up its $400 million share.
     
     
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Maybe some "design efficiencies" will be found, and the completion date will be moved up a year before a certain date in May.

Hey, one can hope, right?
     
     
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Carole James says NDP will keep Evergreen Line on track

Carole James says NDP will keep Evergreen Line on track


By Damian Inwood, Canwest News Service April 17, 2009


B.C. NDP leader Carole James speaks to onlookers, flanked by MLA and candidate for Port Coquitlam-Burke Mountain Mike Farnworth (left) and Port Moody-Coquitlam candidate Shannon Watkins (right) at Burquitlam Plaza on the Burnaby/Coquitlam/Port Moody border on April 17.

NDP leader Carole James is promising to get the $1.4-billion Evergreen Line back on track if her party wins next month's election.

She said an NDP government would totally fund the project rather than seeking a private partner, as Premier Gordon Campbell is doing.

"We should be able to see the Evergreen transit line, it should be nearing completion and it should be going into full operation this year," said James, standing in a shopping mall parking lot on the border of Port Moody and Burquitlam, site of a proposed transit station. "For local mayors and councillors, the Evergreen Line was the highest transit priority in Metro Vancouver."

James said that while Campbell promised to respect local transportation decisions, he's broken promise after promise to build the Evergreen Line.

"Because of Gordon Campbell the Evergreen Line is five years behind schedule and $600-million over budget," added James. "In fact, the price tag has almost doubled from $800 million to $1.4 billion."

The original plan called for a light rail system and the current plan is for a more expensive SkyTrain system.

"Gordon Campbell now says the construction is going to start in 2010 but we don't expect that promise will be kept either," said James.

She said under the Liberal plan, there's a shortfall of $173 million, and Campbell is saying, "Don't worry, that amount will be picked up by a private partner."

But, due to the current economic climate, private funding is hard to come by, she said.

"The NDP will end the waiting and end the uncertainty," she said. "We're going to close the funding gap, we're going to build the Evergreen Line and we're going to build it as a public project.

"Unlike Gordon Campbell, we're not going to impose further delays waiting for a private partner who may never materialize in today's financial market."

She said the NDP has put $180 million in its platform budget to make up the shortfall.

Restaurant owner Fred Soofi said he was pleased at the announcement but said he hoped it was not just an empty election promise.

"We have been hearing this for many years" he said.

"They promise for the election and after the election they forget and just bring their different reasons why they haven't done it."

He said that traffic on Clarke Road is gridlocked in the evening rush hour and the new line would help ease it.

"We've been waiting around a long time for it, right," said Dawn Rein, manager of Codfather's fish-and-chip shop. "We hope it happens. We're looking forward to it giving a little kick to the community."

As well as bringing economic benefits, she said, she's worried that it may bring in undesirables and lead to more crime.

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Old Posted Apr 21, 2009, 10:21 PM
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Carole James says NDP will keep Evergreen Line on track

"Because of Gordon Campbell the Evergreen Line is five years behind schedule and $600-million over budget," added James. "In fact, the price tag has almost doubled from $800 million to $1.4 billion."

The original plan called for a light rail system and the current plan is for a more expensive SkyTrain system.

GO CAROLE GO!!!!
Something inside of me thinks the first figure is in ~2001 dollars and the second figure is in 2009 dollars. I also wouldn't call upgrading the design to skytrain going overbudget.

Sorry ravman.
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so she would rather see a street car LRT than skytrain? is that what she is really saying?
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2009, 10:27 PM
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As long as they both plan to do it, I don't care.

Then I don't have to care who's elected.
     
     
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Because of Gordon Campbell the Evergreen Line is five years behind schedule and $600-million over budget," added James. "In fact, the price tag has almost doubled from $800 million to $1.4 billion."
So does this mean if I vote for Carole James she will find a way to reduce the cost of a skytrain to the tri-cities by 600,000,000? That would be quite a feat!
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 21, 2009, 11:32 PM
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So does this mean if I vote for Carole James she will find a way to reduce the cost of a skytrain to the tri-cities by 600,000,000? That would be quite a feat!
oh man, if it could be that easy!!
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Classic NDP complaining. Where's their results?
     
     
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