I don't get it....why make a request that the "private court" should be open to the general public? This is a time shares hotel.."If you don't pay for a time share....you don't play on the playground."
I doubt that there will be many of these types of projects in downtown Portland. IMO the commission should be open to new concepts....especially in the Pearl. I also dislike the directive of "more brick".....aren't there plenty of examples of brick structures currently in the Pearl....geez.
The commission had better be careful with their demands. Wyndham just cancelled their hundred million dollar+ time shares project here in Florence.
Last edited by PacificNW; Oct 14, 2008 at 12:38 AM.
Portlandmaps lists the demolition, but they are leaving the basement diaphram intact. I don't expect this one to be anymore than a vacant lot for a while. But that is the pessimist in me.
I would love to see this project move forward soon. Does anyone know who the developer/designer is on this project?
There were images posted on this a few months back. It's designed by the Myhre Group, which does pretty shitty work IMHO. It will be apartments, and I bet it moves forward.
There seems to be a fair amount of mid rise buildings in the Pearl District that are not maximizing their FAR. Maybe we could sell off some of those air rights and get the new tallest in the district to appease the clamoring from the bloggers on this site.
^ Hoyt Street, the largest Pearl land owner, is asking the city for a height and density bonus for the area because the current FAR and height limits are maximized.
Whoa! I had to pull out my FAR and buildable height maps to verify this... and you are right. I was under the impression that the pearl had similar maximums to Old Town - which by the way has impressive heights of 350' and bonuses that bump up to 425'' allowable with 9:1 FAR's. Instead they have heights as low as 75' and a 4:1 FAR for most of the pearl.
I would have thought that in planning the pearl district, that the ideal would be to build as high and as dense as financially feasible. It seems so wasteful now that the city did not to capitalize on the original cache this district carried. This planning code must have wanted to preserve waterfront views of homes from the NW hillside.
Does anyone know if this will be addressed in the Central City Plan or if Hoyt Street is pursuing a LUBA appeal?
I hate to dog any development that may go forward in this tough economy, and I especially hate to dog finally having a hotel in the Pearl, but this is a real piece of crap that we will regret in ten years. A cheap stucco-on-wood box overpriced for out-of-town suckers that pay way too much to be part of a dumb club. This isn't a real hotel, it's a lame time-share that won't add significantly to the vitality of the neighborhood and will not contribute adequately to the important physical place in which it will reside. It's a shame that I actually hope they can't make it pencil because of today's economic environment. Strive for something better, guys.
^ weird, because you cannot see the river from the hills. I've been up there... no way. Mt Hood/Mt St Helens yes, but no river view except for the bridges.
Dont forget the Pearl Plan was developed by citizen groups as well... they were shooting for moderate density, and noone believed at the time that there would be a demand for highrise housing.
^ I like the open design, especially the rooftop garden and the stepped back ground floor entrance. There will be plenty of grit left until they get rid of the parking garage
The new North Pearl plan goes to City Council next week for approval.
It includes an increase in base FAR from 2:1 to 4:1 and allows a maximum FAR of 9:1 with bonus FAR. The new plan also allows unlimited height west of the train tracks. Height is limited only by available FAR and by some floor plate and facade length limitations for taller buildings.
The higher base density in the North Pearl Plan are sufficient. It's on the edge of the downtown and not as well served by transit. Plus, if developers want more density, they will participate in the bonus densities allowed by providing public amenities. Make 'em work for the additional development potential..
caught a glimpse of it down the street the other day. Looked fine to me. Better than that auburn-colored building in the same area.. what a cheap wreck!
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