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Old Posted Aug 12, 2008, 8:16 PM
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The major problem with the Grand America is its location in downtown. It is not in a nice part of downtown and is much further than most other hotels near the salt palace. It's ironic(for a lack of a better word) that such a luxurious hotel is situated in the least luxurious location in downtown. I think Earl Holding should have detached the Grand from the Little and placed it to the block north. A hotel like the Grand would have fit perfectly into the development of the City Creek Center. It's too bad, Earl didn't have the vision to place it closer to the convention center. He probably would have had a much better return on his investment. Most of you know that most of the building's funding was by Earl and wll not likely see his return in the investment. He mostly did the Grand as a present to Salt Lake City. I just wished it would have been incorporated closer to the heart of the city.
I agree very much about what you are saying Orlando. It would have been nice to have focused The Grand across from the Palace, say on South Temple or somewhere very close. Although, I think that we can all agree that Holding deserves some major kudo's, not only for the opulence of The Grand, especially considering it's size. Outside of a place like Vegas, a hotel of that scale and luxury is just not done anymore. Also, I believe it is going to be a major draw over the next ten years in bringing about an upgrade and many new projects in and around that southern portion of downtown.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 12, 2008, 8:23 PM
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I do not like placing a conventional hotel on the CCC site. I think it should be located along 200 South between 300 W and W Temple. This would provide a critical mass more southernly located in downtown and promote more private investment into the southern end of downtown. Plus it would be a downtown signature that could fill in some of the holes we have in that general area. Putting it in City Creek or along 100 South creates one ginormous magnet that will suck life out of the rest of downtown.

One of the problems with the grass area around Arropress is that it is owned by Rocky Mountain Power and there are thousands of lines under that area. They have absolutely no interest in allowing building on that site. Now, if someone wanted to pay to relocate those wires and they could still have the necesary access for maintance, upgrades, etc, then maybe they would be willing to let that happen. But for the time being, they have indicated they have no interest in building or allowing someone to build on that site. Plus, with some little improvements, it could really add to the public realm of downtown by being maintained as open space with maybe some small cafes or food carts around the perimeter.
Some excellent points Cololi. Regarding Arrow Press, in all of our discussions about that sight in the past, I don't think anyone has ever brought up that critical point.
     
     
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YWCA expansion on 3rd south & about 3rd east?

YWCA plans $15.5 million expansion in downtown Salt Lake City
Enterprise, The, Jul 21, 2008 by Rattle, Barbara
E-mail Print Link Ground should be broken by the end of the year for an approximately $15.5 million expansion of the YWCA campus in downtown Salt Lake City.

Plans call for the construction of two new three-story buildings - an approximately 37,000 square foot crisis shelter and a roughly 24,000 square foot residential facility - both serving victims and survivors of family violence.
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 12, 2008, 9:27 PM
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old news?

This might have already been posted before.

Work under way on Holladay condos, developer plans downtown midrise
Enterprise, The, Jul 14, 2008 by Rattle, Barbara
E-mail Print Link JAR Development, Holladay, has broken ground for a 28-unit, five-story condominium project in Holladay and is seeking approval from Salt Lake City to construct an 11-story, high-end downtown condo and apartment project that could contain as many as 140 units.


The firm's next endeavor has the working name of Lexie Towers. Rice said he is in preliminary entitlement negotiations with Salt Lake City for an 11-story luxury condo project just east of the Heber Wells state office building on 300 South in downtown Salt Lake City. The site presently houses a bank building which Rice said he is in the process of buying from Gaddis Investments, Salt Lake City.

"We've got the land under contract and have paid some money down on it, so we'll have the deal done in about three months," he said.

As envisioned, Lexie Towers would feature three levels of underground parking, ground level commercial and six floors of apartments crowned by four levels of luxury condos. The number of units in the project has not been determined, but Rice said there will probably be between 120 and 140.

Other projects completed by JAR Development include Holladay Farms, Holladay Pines and Garden Village, all in Holladay.

Royer Management Group is contractor on the Millcreek Terrace project, designed by Brent Hilton. Marketing is being conducted in-house.

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Enterprise, The, Jul 21, 2008 by Rattle, Barbara
E-mail Print Link Ground should be broken by the end of the year for an approximately $15.5 million expansion of the YWCA campus in downtown Salt Lake City.

Plans call for the construction of two new three-story buildings - an approximately 37,000 square foot crisis shelter and a roughly 24,000 square foot residential facility - both serving victims and survivors of family violence.
Orlando: Nice to see that someone is helping those who really need it.
     
     
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I still like this location for a 1000 room convention hotel, but how can we solve the parking problem? There is plenty of room for pickup and drop-off, however, where would these cars go after dropping off the hotel patrons? how many spaces are beneath the Salt Palace Convention Center? Could those be used for the hotel while other convention visitors use the "Park Place" block? I think TRAX will sure help when it finally reaches the Salt Lake City International Airport. Any ideas?



I've always wanted a revolving restaurant in Salt Lake City!



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At least by building a tall hotel, there is no worry about leasing the space. Actually, this is the perfect opportunity to build tall!

The exterior could have a similar treatment as this Venus' Flower Basket (a deep-sea sponge):


Actually, now that I think of it, that design might not do too well in the winter.

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Now your talking. I love it! I just wish we can have a city planner or developer have the balls to really build something this tall.
I love that area because I always thought that plaza there was kind of a waste of space and that having a hotel there would of made more sense.

Sure it might look out of place. But let's keep building 20-30 story towers around that area and it will look fine. IMHO
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Agreed, I would rather have a 600 plus footer that looks a little out of place for the time being than none at all. One problem among several is that we need some developers who have deep enough pockets to finance their own tower, and market it aggressively to one of the many companies relocating or expanding into the area.

I have long felt that the planning offices, among other entities under Anderson, had gone way out of wack. That has been more than confirmed since Becker took over and has very vocally and physically completed a house cleaning. I want to see Salt Lake City pursue iconic towers as vigorously as they are pursuing the new theatre. Simply put, to put in place the pieces of the puzzle, that make it attractive enough for these large new companies to the area, to choose downtown instead of the burbs.

RFPCME or anyone else who follows Hill, Have you heard what the big announcement is suppose to be with Hill Air Force Base today? It was mentioned on the news last night.

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Tell me this...

1. How many rooms are available within 8 blocks of the current downtown Salt Lake City.

2. What is the current occupancy to vacancy rate, per month, in these hotels and even motels during a breakdown of a 12 month period.

3. Is there a real need for a 1,000 room hotel in Salt Lake City?

4. How would a 1,000 room hotel effect the other hotels etc in the area.

I am not trying to be obstinate but trying to keep a 1,000 room hotel profitable takes a consistent 50-65% occupancy rate. It used to be that perhaps that has changed but it takes a solid occupancy inertia to make that type of hotel work.

What is the current number of shows that go on in the Convention Center and what is the average attendance?

I know it would be nice to have a 1,000 room structure but just throwing out that number is easy. Making it work profitably is a whole other story.
     
     
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Rick, Here's a few blurbs and a couple of articles that give some us an idea of the ongoing occupancy rates and hotel industry health, particularly in the Salt Lake Market. The last article is a little lengthy, but it is extremely interesting and informative.

Oct 24, 2006 - Hotel occupancy rates increased in September
Deseret News (Salt Lake City), Oct 24, 2006
E-mail Print Link More Utah hotel rooms were occupied in September as daily room rates climbed, according to the Rocky Mountain Lodging Report.

The occupancy rate for Utah hotels was 72.4 percent in September, up from 66.8 percent in September 2005.

The statewide average daily room rate rose to $83.34 for the month, up from $74.35.

In Salt Lake City, occupancy rates in September were 76.9 percent, up from 70.3 percent a year ago, with rooms averaging $87.17, up from $77.30.

Utah hotel occupancy, rates rose in 2006, report says


January 23, 2007 Deseret News,

Utah's hotel occupancy rate rose to 68.3 percent in 2006 from 65 percent in 2005, according to the latest Rocky Mountain Lodging Report.

The report, which is compiled in cooperation with the Utah Hotel & Lodging Association, showed the average room rate statewide also increased to $86.27 last year from $75.90 in 2005, although some of that jump was due to the addition of several new resorts to the survey in 2006.

Occupancy for Salt Lake hotels increased to 72.4 percent in 2006 from 69.1 percent in 2005, while the average daily room rate rose to $84.17 from $76.86 year-over-year. Revenue per available room also increased to $60.92 from $53.12 for Salt Lake properties.

Hotel occupancy rate in Utah rose in May - June 19, 2007

The occupancy rate at Utah hotels in May averaged 65.4 percent, up from 62.5 percent in May 2006, according to the Rocky Mountain Lodging Report.

The average daily rate rose to $85.67 in May, up from $75.51 a year ago during the same month.

Utah's hotel industry booming
As occupancy rates rise, analysts see need for big project in downtown S.L.


By Dave Anderton
Deseret Morning News
Published: Friday, Jan. 27, 2006 3:57 p.m. MST
A killer virus, the war in Iraq and terrorist attacks once jolted confidence in U.S. travel safety. Now, a strong economic recovery and fond memories of 2002's Salt Lake Olympic glory are erasing old fears and boosting Utah's hotel industry.
In fact, Salt Lake's hotel rooms are filling up fast.

In 2005, the city's overall occupancy rate climbed to 69.1 percent, up from 62.9 percent in 2004, according to the Rocky Mountain Lodging Report, which tracks hotel trends in Utah, Colorado, Wyoming and New Mexico.

The 2005 rate is approaching those of the 1990s, when occupancy rates for the city floated in the mid-70 percent range. In 1994, Salt Lake's occupancy rate climbed to 80.1 percent, its highest ever, according to Robert Benton, sponsor of the lodging report.

"You are at an occupancy level where developers are going to start looking at the market and start looking at new projects and planning for new projects," Benton said. "Occupancies in Salt Lake have been improving since the 1999-2000 period. The market is not overbuilt."

SLC Occupancy rates of between 70 percent and 75 percent are considered good for a typical hotel, Benton said. Rates surpassing 80 percent indicate an establishment can raise room rates.

Salt Lake's occupancy rate in 2005 outperformed Albuquerque, which ended the year at 64.8 percent, and Denver at 64.1 percent, the lodging report said.
In addition to higher occupancies, average room rates for Salt Lake City also increased in 2005 to $76.85, up from $75.71 a year earlier.

"People remember Salt Lake City, but you've also had good snow. You had a record number of skier days last year," Benton said. "Commercial travelers are coming back. Now you've got group business coming back. The leisure market is coming back."

Steve Lindburg, general manager of the Hilton Salt Lake City Center and past president of the Utah Hotel and Lodging Association, said Salt Lake's hotel industry is healthy and growing.

"We became overbuilt just before the Olympic Games," Lindburg said. "In the years since then, we're starting to see a good balancing point. I think what we are going to see is demand is going to keep creeping up as long as the economy keeps going."

Lindburg said he considers an occupancy rate less than 65 percent a "bad" rate. The 499-room Hilton is currently running at a 72 percent occupancy rate, Lindburg said. Its average room rate was up 11 percent in 2005 compared to 2004.

"What we are seeing now is the average rate people pay for a room is actually growing pretty significantly," Lindburg said. "I think we are seeing positive demand growth as we move into 2006 and beyond.

"The business traveler is definitely back in a big way, and now what we are starting to see is the leisure traveler is starting to come back. I think what we are going to see is more folks getting out for long weekends."

Not As Great in 2008 for US Hotels, (with a few exceptions, such as Austin and Salt Lake City)
PKF Hospitality Research
Tuesday, 18th December 2007

Research is reaffirming a forecast for a modest slowdown in US lodging industry performance in 2008.

For the year PKF Hospitality Research, (PKF-HR) is projecting occupancy levels to experience a slight decline (-0.7 percent), while average daily room rates (ADR) should grow 5.3 percent.

The net result is a 4.5 percent gain in revenue per available room (RevPAR), the slowest pace of RevPAR growth since recovering from the 2001 to 2003 industry recession. While the PKF-HR forecast calls for a deceleration in the pace of revenue growth, it should be noted that the 4.5 percent RevPAR growth rate is still above the Smith Travel Research long-term average of 3.4 percent. These findings come from the recently released fourth quarter edition of Hotel HorizonsSM, the quarterly lodging forecast report produced by PKF-HR.

...On the consumer side, PKF-HR does not foresee an imminent catastrophic economic recession that would have a negative impact on lodging demand. “We are concerned that the residential credit-crunch might have a negative impact on leisure travel patterns in the summer of 2008. Fortunately, corporate profits continue to support commercial lodging demand and should mitigate any fall-off in leisure demand,” Woodworth concluded.

Buying, Not Building

While the total pipeline of planned hotel projects is at an all-time high, only a small number are actually breaking ground. The high costs of construction and land, combined with firmer capital market discipline, have helped to control the volume of new supply additions. In many instances, the purchase and renovation of an existing hotel continues to be more feasible than the construction of a new property.

“Given our analysis of current hotel construction activity, PKF-HR is forecasting a 2.6 percent increase in lodging supply in 2008, or approximately 115,000 new hotel rooms. This is the greatest annual supply increase since 2000, but still less than the 150,000 new rooms added in both 1998 and 1999,” Woodworth noted.

Most of the new supply in 2008 will enter the Upscale and Midscale without Food and Beverage segments of the industry. Properties in these categories typically contain a limited amount of public space that makes them relatively cost-effective to build. Conversely, PKF-HR is forecasting an 11th consecutive year of declining inventory in the Midscale with Food and Beverage chain-scale category. It should be noted during the third quarter of 2007, the greatest percent increase in pipeline construction activity occurred in the Luxury segment. However, given the time required to build these elaborate facilities, the impact of the new competition will not be felt until 2009 and beyond.

ADR Drives Revenue

Across the board, all segments of the lodging industry are forecast to experience flat or declining occupancy levels in 2008. Luxury hotels are forecast to achieve the greatest gains in ADR (6.6 percent), followed by properties in the Midscale without Food and Beverage (6.0 percent) and Upscale (5.5 percent) segments. Meanwhile, hotels in the Midscale with Food and Beverage (3.8 percent) and Economy segments (2.9 percent) are expected to lag in ADR growth.

“The ability to increase room rates will drive revenue growth for the year,” Woodworth said. “Luxury hotels enjoy a loyal base of guests that are less affected by the recent dour economic news. The Midscale without Food and Beverage and Upscale chain-scales include several select-service brands that are very popular among both business and leisure travelers.”

City Performance Varies

Geographically, all regions of the nation are forecast to experience growth in RevPAR in 2008. “However, as we always caution our clients, individual cities have their own cyclical behavior,” Woodworth added.

Hotel managers in Austin and Salt Lake City are expected to enjoy ADR;(Average daily rate) growth rates in excess of 7.5 percent in 2008, due to a relatively limited amount of new supply coming on-line. This strong growth in ADR should result in nation leading RevPAR;(Revenue per available room) gains above 8.0 percent.

At the other end of the spectrum, hotels in the Long Island, Washington DC, and Sacramento markets will struggle to grow their revenue in 2008 because of supply growth in excess of 5.0 percent. Hotel managers in Fort Worth and San Antonio will face the greatest increases in new competition. The lodging inventory in these markets is projected to grow in excess of 9.0 percent, thus resulting in a forecast decline in RevPAR for Fort Worth (-2.2 percent) and a slight 1.4 percent gain for properties in San Antonio.

Buoyed by inbound international travelers taking advantage of favorable currency exchange rates, New York should continue to enjoy particularly high levels of occupancy, ADR, and RevPAR. Like the rest of the nation, however, New York metro area hotels are forecast to experience a drop in occupancy (-1.4 percent), with the overall occupancy rate remaining above 80.0 percent. The decline is attributable to record-breaking levels of new hotel construction activity.

“The pipeline for new hotel projects in Manhattan is unprecedented, but so are the high levels of occupancy and ADR,” says John Fox, senior vice president in the New York office of PKF Consulting. “Neighborhoods are opening up in Manhattan where developers never thought of building before.” For 2008, New York metro area hotels are forecast to achieve an annual occupancy of 82.7 percent, with an average daily room rate of $299.38.

Cost Concerns

PKF-HR is forecasting a healthy 8.5 percent increase in the bottom line of the average U.S. hotel in 2008. Of concern for hoteliers is the rise in the cost of operations. While total revenues are forecast to increase by 5.3 percent, hotel operating costs are projected to rise 4.0 percent, nearly double the expected pace of inflation. Labor-related costs make up 45 percent of operating expenses at the typical hotel. Low national unemployment rates put pressure on wage rates and make it difficult for hotel managers to find staff. Further, PKF-HR has observed an increase in expenses that management has less control over, including employee benefits, utilities, property taxes, and insurance...
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Let's build this tower and lower those hotel rates! More people will be willing to travel if lodging is affordable.
     
     
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We need another Holding to generously gift Salt Lake with the Convention Hotel.
     
     
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2. What is the current occupancy to vacancy rate, per month, in these hotels and even motels during a breakdown of a 12 month period.

3. Is there a real need for a 1,000 room hotel in Salt Lake City?
I used to work in the marketing dept for the Grand and Little America hotels. I was also the liaison from the marketing dept to Little America and attended their hotel mgmt meeting every morning. This was a meeting with the hotel manager and all of the dept heads.

From these meetings, I know that over the past 10–15 years, SLC has consistently had the 2nd highest hotel occupancy rate in the nation, 2nd only to Hawaii.

Second, there is definitely a need for a 1,000-room hotel and the Convention and Visitors Bureau (which runs the Salt Palace) has been trying to get a hotel chain to build such a hotel near the Salt Palace for over a decade. Salt Lake often has a hard time fitting conventions in SLC as most convention planners would prefer that all of their conventioneers stay in one hotel located near the convention center. Most major cities have a convention hotel located ajacent to the convention center that have 1,000 rooms or more.

A few years ago, when I was still working at the Grand, there was news that Marriott was considering building a 1,000-room hotel on the site of the old DV8 bldg (and the bldgs to the north on that corner across from the Salt Palace, just south of its current hotel), but I haven't heard anything since.
     
     
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That would be a terrible idea! those are great buildings that give Salt Lake it's unique character! Many people associate these buildings with home. Again, we have lost many of our older buildings, and don't need to lose any more! Furthermore, we have plenty of parking lots and unused spaces that should be filled!
     
     
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Rick, Here's a few blurbs and a couple of articles that give some us an idea of the ongoing occupancy rates and hotel industry health, particularly in the Salt Lake Market. The last article is a little lengthy, but it is extremely interesting and informative.

Oct 24, 2006 - Hotel occupancy rates increased in September
Deseret News (Salt Lake City), Oct 24, 2006
E-mail Print Link More Utah hotel rooms were occupied in September as daily room rates climbed, according to the Rocky Mountain Lodging Report.

The occupancy rate for Utah hotels was 72.4 percent in September, up from 66.8 percent in September 2005.

The statewide average daily room rate rose to $83.34 for the month, up from $74.35.

In Salt Lake City, occupancy rates in September were 76.9 percent, up from 70.3 percent a year ago, with rooms averaging $87.17, up from $77.30.

Utah hotel occupancy, rates rose in 2006, report says


January 23, 2007 Deseret News,

Utah's hotel occupancy rate rose to 68.3 percent in 2006 from 65 percent in 2005, according to the latest Rocky Mountain Lodging Report.

The report, which is compiled in cooperation with the Utah Hotel & Lodging Association, showed the average room rate statewide also increased to $86.27 last year from $75.90 in 2005, although some of that jump was due to the addition of several new resorts to the survey in 2006.

Occupancy for Salt Lake hotels increased to 72.4 percent in 2006 from 69.1 percent in 2005, while the average daily room rate rose to $84.17 from $76.86 year-over-year. Revenue per available room also increased to $60.92 from $53.12 for Salt Lake properties.

Hotel occupancy rate in Utah rose in May - June 19, 2007

The occupancy rate at Utah hotels in May averaged 65.4 percent, up from 62.5 percent in May 2006, according to the Rocky Mountain Lodging Report.

The average daily rate rose to $85.67 in May, up from $75.51 a year ago during the same month.

Utah's hotel industry booming
As occupancy rates rise, analysts see need for big project in downtown S.L.


By Dave Anderton
Deseret Morning News
Published: Friday, Jan. 27, 2006 3:57 p.m. MST
A killer virus, the war in Iraq and terrorist attacks once jolted confidence in U.S. travel safety. Now, a strong economic recovery and fond memories of 2002's Salt Lake Olympic glory are erasing old fears and boosting Utah's hotel industry.
In fact, Salt Lake's hotel rooms are filling up fast.

In 2005, the city's overall occupancy rate climbed to 69.1 percent, up from 62.9 percent in 2004, according to the Rocky Mountain Lodging Report, which tracks hotel trends in Utah, Colorado, Wyoming and New Mexico.

The 2005 rate is approaching those of the 1990s, when occupancy rates for the city floated in the mid-70 percent range. In 1994, Salt Lake's occupancy rate climbed to 80.1 percent, its highest ever, according to Robert Benton, sponsor of the lodging report.

"You are at an occupancy level where developers are going to start looking at the market and start looking at new projects and planning for new projects," Benton said. "Occupancies in Salt Lake have been improving since the 1999-2000 period. The market is not overbuilt."

SLC Occupancy rates of between 70 percent and 75 percent are considered good for a typical hotel, Benton said. Rates surpassing 80 percent indicate an establishment can raise room rates.

Salt Lake's occupancy rate in 2005 outperformed Albuquerque, which ended the year at 64.8 percent, and Denver at 64.1 percent, the lodging report said.
In addition to higher occupancies, average room rates for Salt Lake City also increased in 2005 to $76.85, up from $75.71 a year earlier.

"People remember Salt Lake City, but you've also had good snow. You had a record number of skier days last year," Benton said. "Commercial travelers are coming back. Now you've got group business coming back. The leisure market is coming back."

Steve Lindburg, general manager of the Hilton Salt Lake City Center and past president of the Utah Hotel and Lodging Association, said Salt Lake's hotel industry is healthy and growing.

"We became overbuilt just before the Olympic Games," Lindburg said. "In the years since then, we're starting to see a good balancing point. I think what we are going to see is demand is going to keep creeping up as long as the economy keeps going."

Lindburg said he considers an occupancy rate less than 65 percent a "bad" rate. The 499-room Hilton is currently running at a 72 percent occupancy rate, Lindburg said. Its average room rate was up 11 percent in 2005 compared to 2004.

"What we are seeing now is the average rate people pay for a room is actually growing pretty significantly," Lindburg said. "I think we are seeing positive demand growth as we move into 2006 and beyond.

"The business traveler is definitely back in a big way, and now what we are starting to see is the leisure traveler is starting to come back. I think what we are going to see is more folks getting out for long weekends."

Not As Great in 2008 for US Hotels, (with a few exceptions, such as Austin and Salt Lake City)
PKF Hospitality Research
Tuesday, 18th December 2007

Research is reaffirming a forecast for a modest slowdown in US lodging industry performance in 2008.

For the year PKF Hospitality Research, (PKF-HR) is projecting occupancy levels to experience a slight decline (-0.7 percent), while average daily room rates (ADR) should grow 5.3 percent.

The net result is a 4.5 percent gain in revenue per available room (RevPAR), the slowest pace of RevPAR growth since recovering from the 2001 to 2003 industry recession. While the PKF-HR forecast calls for a deceleration in the pace of revenue growth, it should be noted that the 4.5 percent RevPAR growth rate is still above the Smith Travel Research long-term average of 3.4 percent. These findings come from the recently released fourth quarter edition of Hotel HorizonsSM, the quarterly lodging forecast report produced by PKF-HR.

...On the consumer side, PKF-HR does not foresee an imminent catastrophic economic recession that would have a negative impact on lodging demand. “We are concerned that the residential credit-crunch might have a negative impact on leisure travel patterns in the summer of 2008. Fortunately, corporate profits continue to support commercial lodging demand and should mitigate any fall-off in leisure demand,” Woodworth concluded.

Buying, Not Building

While the total pipeline of planned hotel projects is at an all-time high, only a small number are actually breaking ground. The high costs of construction and land, combined with firmer capital market discipline, have helped to control the volume of new supply additions. In many instances, the purchase and renovation of an existing hotel continues to be more feasible than the construction of a new property.

“Given our analysis of current hotel construction activity, PKF-HR is forecasting a 2.6 percent increase in lodging supply in 2008, or approximately 115,000 new hotel rooms. This is the greatest annual supply increase since 2000, but still less than the 150,000 new rooms added in both 1998 and 1999,” Woodworth noted.

Most of the new supply in 2008 will enter the Upscale and Midscale without Food and Beverage segments of the industry. Properties in these categories typically contain a limited amount of public space that makes them relatively cost-effective to build. Conversely, PKF-HR is forecasting an 11th consecutive year of declining inventory in the Midscale with Food and Beverage chain-scale category. It should be noted during the third quarter of 2007, the greatest percent increase in pipeline construction activity occurred in the Luxury segment. However, given the time required to build these elaborate facilities, the impact of the new competition will not be felt until 2009 and beyond.

ADR Drives Revenue

Across the board, all segments of the lodging industry are forecast to experience flat or declining occupancy levels in 2008. Luxury hotels are forecast to achieve the greatest gains in ADR (6.6 percent), followed by properties in the Midscale without Food and Beverage (6.0 percent) and Upscale (5.5 percent) segments. Meanwhile, hotels in the Midscale with Food and Beverage (3.8 percent) and Economy segments (2.9 percent) are expected to lag in ADR growth.

“The ability to increase room rates will drive revenue growth for the year,” Woodworth said. “Luxury hotels enjoy a loyal base of guests that are less affected by the recent dour economic news. The Midscale without Food and Beverage and Upscale chain-scales include several select-service brands that are very popular among both business and leisure travelers.”

City Performance Varies

Geographically, all regions of the nation are forecast to experience growth in RevPAR in 2008. “However, as we always caution our clients, individual cities have their own cyclical behavior,” Woodworth added.

Hotel managers in Austin and Salt Lake City are expected to enjoy ADR;(Average daily rate) growth rates in excess of 7.5 percent in 2008, due to a relatively limited amount of new supply coming on-line. This strong growth in ADR should result in nation leading RevPAR;(Revenue per available room) gains above 8.0 percent.

At the other end of the spectrum, hotels in the Long Island, Washington DC, and Sacramento markets will struggle to grow their revenue in 2008 because of supply growth in excess of 5.0 percent. Hotel managers in Fort Worth and San Antonio will face the greatest increases in new competition. The lodging inventory in these markets is projected to grow in excess of 9.0 percent, thus resulting in a forecast decline in RevPAR for Fort Worth (-2.2 percent) and a slight 1.4 percent gain for properties in San Antonio.

Buoyed by inbound international travelers taking advantage of favorable currency exchange rates, New York should continue to enjoy particularly high levels of occupancy, ADR, and RevPAR. Like the rest of the nation, however, New York metro area hotels are forecast to experience a drop in occupancy (-1.4 percent), with the overall occupancy rate remaining above 80.0 percent. The decline is attributable to record-breaking levels of new hotel construction activity.

“The pipeline for new hotel projects in Manhattan is unprecedented, but so are the high levels of occupancy and ADR,” says John Fox, senior vice president in the New York office of PKF Consulting. “Neighborhoods are opening up in Manhattan where developers never thought of building before.” For 2008, New York metro area hotels are forecast to achieve an annual occupancy of 82.7 percent, with an average daily room rate of $299.38.

Cost Concerns

PKF-HR is forecasting a healthy 8.5 percent increase in the bottom line of the average U.S. hotel in 2008. Of concern for hoteliers is the rise in the cost of operations. While total revenues are forecast to increase by 5.3 percent, hotel operating costs are projected to rise 4.0 percent, nearly double the expected pace of inflation. Labor-related costs make up 45 percent of operating expenses at the typical hotel. Low national unemployment rates put pressure on wage rates and make it difficult for hotel managers to find staff. Further, PKF-HR has observed an increase in expenses that management has less control over, including employee benefits, utilities, property taxes, and insurance...
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Obviously, the percentages are going up and the future health looks promising.

The complaints about the cost of land, construction and the daily rise in cost of just running the business have to be worry anyone in that industry.

I think that no matter how it is looked at, 1,000 rooms at one hotel are far to many for Salt Lake City at this time.

Of course if they would promise to blow up the Plaza Hotel then I would be all for it...hell, if they blow up the Plaza eye sore I would be for anything.

Who said the palm trees made a huge difference in viewing the Plaza?...LOL...that was hilarious.
     
     
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Obviously, the percentages are going up and the future health looks promising.

I think that no matter how it is looked at, 1,000 rooms at one hotel are far too many for Salt Lake City at this time.
I think you underestimate SLC and the number of conventions we have and the numbers of conventions we could have booked if we had a convention center hotel.

I personally was working to get a particular convention to come to SLC about 5 years ago and the main problem was that we would have had to split their guests over anywhere from 2 to 5 hotels, depending on which hotels they booked. (The two hotel-option would have been Grand and Little, but those two hotels were too far away from the Salt Palace for them and the Grand was too expensive.) So, they chose St. Louis instead. I've heard that many other conventions have bypassed SLC because of our lack of a 1000-room convention hotel.

Also, when the Outdoor Retailer convention comes to SLC 2x a year, we don't have enough hotel space in downtown SLC and visitors are spread out over hotels in 5 counties.

The co. that manages Outdoor Retailer was quoted in an article this week saying that they would consider bringing other larger conventions they manage to SLC if we had a convention center hotel to accommodate them.
     
     
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That would be a terrible idea! those are great buildings that give Salt Lake it's unique character! Many people associate these buildings with home. Again, we have lost many of our older buildings, and don't need to lose any more! Furthermore, we have plenty of parking lots and unused spaces that should be filled!
I agree. There is a hotel in Trondheim, Norway that incorporated older buildings into it's site plan. These several hundred year old bldgs are mostly still intact and then the new hotel rises above them. When I heard about the Marriott hotel going on that corner, I thought it would be cool if they did something similar, but alas they probably wouldn't.

Here's a picture of the hotel in Norway, but unfortunately, it's not taken from the other side, which looks much better/cooler. I can't find any other photos of it on the 'net.


Photo by Mahlum (in public domain from Wikipedia)
     
     
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Here's a picture of the hotel in Norway, but unfortunately, it's not taken from the other side, which looks much better/cooler. I can't find any other photos of it on the 'net.


Photo by Mahlum (in public domain from Wikipedia)
Hmmm... the picture didn't even show up. If you're interested, the link to the pic is:
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilde:Olavskvartalet_Trondheim.jpg
     
     
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I worked at the Little America for a number of years while I was living in Salt Lake and am confused why you think that this 70's looking boring monolith is one of the finest convention hotels in the nation?!? Don't get me wrong, it is a nice hotel- nothing extreme or fabulous- but many people would complain and bitch at check out because of issues with that dated hotel and many out of towners staying there for conventions were rarely impressed...
I don't know when you were last in the Little America, but it has been completely renovated inside about 6 or 7 years ago and is almost as nice inside as the Grand America. It is far from dated inside. The outside (except for the portico entrance) still looks mostly the same, however.
     
     
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