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Old Posted Mar 10, 2008, 4:47 AM
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They were working on something in the vacant lot next to Flower St lofts on saturday. Can someone remind me what is going in there?

     
     
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Anybody got recent pictures of Concerto? I still think that it will finish before 717 Ninth.
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^ Concerto has its own thread. Please refer to that thread for updates.
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LOL.....since when?

Anyways; it could be just me, but what I have often notice about steel construction is that after it's topped out, it takes a while for the rest of the exterior to catch up.
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LOL.....since when?
Before you even knew what Concerto was.
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Before you even knew what Concerto was.
Then that would imply that the thread must be dead, wouldn't it?
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Then that would imply that the thread must be dead, wouldn't it?
No, it's quite alive and it's been there since before you even started posting here.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115547
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 11, 2008, 6:01 AM
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^ Concerto has its own thread. Please refer to that thread for updates.
Isn't this the thread to get/post downtown development news including Concerto?

Didn't LADOWNTOWNER post these Concerto photos yesterday?


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Regarding LA HS # 9

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As far as I know, its completely non-functional, merely a sculpture.
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Dunno, but that sure seems like a lot of effort and expense to put into something that's "merely a sculpture." If that's the case, as a taxpayer, I'll be royally pissed! What a waste. If you want to make a statement on a public building, that's fine, great - no problem with that, but also make it functional, serve a purpose.

So I did a little more digging and from what I gather from the article below. I'm not sure if the Tower is purely sculptural, but taxpayers are not paying for the additional upgrades to the design.

The article is a little old.

June 8 2003

ARCHITECTURE REVIEW
The bold school try
The proposed design for the LAUSD's new arts academy is a boisterous vision for downtown's blossoming cultural landscape.

By Nicolai Ouroussoff, Times Staff Writer


Think small. That, at least in architectural terms, was the mandate delivered to the Los Angeles Unified School District as it struggled to come to terms with obscene levels of overcrowding in the city's schools. In November, voters approved a $3.35-billion bond issue for building upgrades, $2.58 billion of which was earmarked for completing work on up to 120 new schools during the next three years. The figure has turned out to be barely adequate -- enough to build the schools but not enough to create anything of real architectural substance. For that, the LAUSD would have to draw on other resources.

Few current school projects sum up the tricky nature of that process like the planned Performing and Visual Arts Academy at 450 Grand Ave. in downtown L.A. Originally intended as a traditional high school, the project was reconceived on a far more ambitious scale after billionaire philanthropist Eli Broad intervened. Since then, the original architecture firm, AC Martin, has been replaced by the high-profile Vienna-based Coop Himmelblau. Construction, once scheduled for completion by summer 2005, has been delayed by at least a year. And the project's cost has swollen by more than $20 million -- to a current price tag of $87 million.

To some, Broad's involvement is evidence of the continuing erosion of the wall that once separated public and private realms. LAUSD officials concede that some of the design's features will have to be paid for with private donations. Whether the money comes from Broad or someone else has yet to be determined. (Broad's foundation recently committed $1.9 million toward the school's operating budget.)

But the new design, though still in its early stages, goes a long way toward justifying such political meddling. Crackling with new ideas, its blend of pop imagery and communal idealism is a powerful statement about the vital role schools can play in a city's cultural fabric. It is also a challenge to those who see the high arts as something elitist, a distraction for the rich that is of marginal social value. At a time when local governments are struggling to provide even the most basic public services, this is a significant accomplishment.

Communities collide

Covering 9.8 acres, the complex will stand just across the Hollywood Freeway from the city's so-called "cultural corridor," which includes the Music Center, the Colburn School of Music and the Walt Disney Concert Hall, scheduled to open in October. The brooding concrete shell of the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels faces the site across the freeway; a sprawling Latino neighborhood and Chinatown flank it to the north.

In an effort to hold down costs, Coop Himmelblau was forced to retain aspects of the original AC Martin plan. Most of the structures, for example, will still be set along the periphery, with classrooms along Grand Avenue and Cesar Chavez Avenue, and the gymnasium and playing fields at the southern portion of the site.

But while the original scheme was a model of banality, Coop Himmelblau's captures the energy that can be created when such varied communities collide. A shimmering glass-and-steel lobby will anchor the corner of Grand, with a 900-seat theater and an events space extending along the edge of the freeway. Along Cesar Chavez, a grand stair leads up to a large internal court and a sleek, cone-shaped library building.

The idea is to establish a strong visual relationship between the school and Grand Avenue's civic buildings. The glass lobby will resemble an enormous faceted crystal, a piece of jewelry built on an urban scale. The events space -- perched atop the theater's concrete fly tower -- juts out toward the freeway like a futuristic periscope. Elevators zip up and down the tower's facade; a ramp spirals up around its base.

Together with the cathedral's soaring campanile, these sculptural pieces will create a portal for downtown's cultural zone, a cluster of vertical markers rising out of L.A.'s famously horizontal sprawl.

The school's tower, in particular, is loaded with symbolic meaning. It loosely recalls the odd-shaped bell tower of Le Corbusier's 1953 Monastery at La Tourette, France -- a landmark of Modernist design. In evoking such precedents, Coop Himmelblau is asserting art's spiritual value. Art now occupies a central social role; the students are its missionaries.
That vision is imbued with a deep sense of communal spirit. Stretching out along Grand Avenue, the painting and dance studios are housed in a long, low building pierced by an asymmetrical pattern of big porthole-like windows, allowing passersby to peer in at students at work. Inside, studios are arranged as generous, open lofts -- workshops for the imagination.

As the structure turns the corner of Cesar Chavez, its form cantilevers out over a small plaza, giving the complex an added air of permeability. Seen from this point, the conical library will serve as a kind of visual lure, drawing people into the central courtyard. The courtyard, in turn, functions both as a sanctuary and a communal meeting place -- a social condenser where students, teachers, artists, curators and local residents can meet, exchange ideas and take part in the kind of urban friction that is central to any creative process.

Picking up on that theme, LAUSD officials have already met with representatives of the avenue's cultural institutions to discuss possible joint ventures. The most obvious include having curators, artists and musicians teach at the school, or using the theater as an additional venue for MOCA lectures or Music Center events.



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So I did a little more digging and from what I gather from the article below. I'm not sure if the Tower is purely sculptural, but taxpayers are not paying for the additional upgrades to the design.

The idea is to establish a strong visual relationship between the school and Grand Avenue's civic buildings. The glass lobby will resemble an enormous faceted crystal, a piece of jewelry built on an urban scale. The events space -- perched atop the theater's concrete fly tower -- juts out toward the freeway like a futuristic periscope. Elevators zip up and down the tower's facade; a ramp spirals up around its base.
Thanks for posting this DCB! I think the answer to the question of whether it is simply sculptural or functional is contained in the article after all - which I have highlighted above in red. Nice find... it seems to more or less confirm my initial suspicion of it's function posited here:

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Is it too small for some sort of intimate performance space/auditorium?
And as such, since it is functional, I haven't a problem with it, even if taxpayers were footing the bill on design upgrades. Particularly since private donations will defray some of the additional expenses, all the better!!!
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It just looks like a slide that the teenager in me really really wants to ride!
     
     
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That's a pool of water at the top, right? angelenic
     
     
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Isn't this the thread to get/post downtown development news including Concerto?
Well, I post in the individual threads for Concerto, 717 Ninth, Ritz-Carlton/JW Marriott, and LAPD Headquarters to activate discussions.

The way I look at it, this thread should be reserved for developments like the Medallion, San Pedro Apartments, and adaptive reuse projects.
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What event could possibly take place in that box? It looks rather small...and its all glass, even the floor appears to be glass.
     
     
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Well, I post in the individual threads for Concerto, 717 Ninth, Ritz-Carlton/JW Marriott, and LAPD Headquarters to activate discussions.

The way I look at it, this thread should be reserved for developments like the Medallion, San Pedro Apartments, and adaptive reuse projects.
So why not do it with other future construction projects as well?
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No, it's quite alive and it's been there since before you even started posting here.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=115547
BTW, thanks for the link.
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san pedro apartments out of the ground

by Stephen Friday on March 11, 2008

When we last looked at the San Pedro Apartments development rising near the southwest corner of 2nd and San Pedro in Little Tokyo, the construction crane for the six-story structure had just been erected on site.

In the five months since, the two-level subterranean parking garage has been completed and construction is transitioning to the wood-frame levels slated to contain 7,000 square-feet of retail and 230 residential units.

Thomas P. Cox Architects designed the San Pedro Apartments, phase one of the four-phase Block 8 complex which will entail four residential structures, a pedestrian retail promenade and two-way street. Developer Related Companies anticipates a spring 2009 delivery.

Matsu, phase two expected to break ground summer 2008 at 2nd and Los Angeles, will also encompass six stories of mixed use. AvalonBay Communities, the company behind Miracle Mile’s new Avalon Wilshire, is helming the project.

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Chinatown Lofts Cancelled:

kor group bails on chinatown lofts project

by Stephen Friday on March 10, 2008

There’s trouble in Chinatown. Kor Group’s highly lauded Chinatown Lofts adaptive re-use project on Spring Street near the Metro Gold Line Station has been placed on the market for sale.

After construction delays over many recent months, news of a possible abandonment by the developer seemed inevitable. The two-building (one at ten stories and the other at seven) subject property contains full entitlements for 123 live/work units and is listed by brokerage firm CB Richard Ellis.

A new sucker investor is being sought to complete the mixed-use development, which is viewed by local advocates as a key component to the neighborhood’s revitalization. Considering the climate of the national economy and softening residential market, the future of Chinatown Lofts is unclear.

The last thing we want to see is this landmark structure sit vacant until there’s an uptick in the market. At this point, we may be lucky to even see a seafood wholesaler show interest in the building’s ground level.

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