Edmonton Construction 5 - Page 24

IKAN104 · #**461** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 3:45 PM**

The new Provincial Museum of Alberta - Scanned from the Journal

ExcaliburKid · #**462** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 4:08 PM**

^ Good stuff. So will this essentially double the existing museums size?

rapid_business · #**463** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 4:35 PM**

so the diagram show the old portion of the museum as renovated despite a lack of government funding to do so? I imagine the last image is a view looking west down 102 ave?

The jury is still out in this camp. I'd have to see other pictures. I like the angled incorporation in hopes they meant it to tie into our pyramid theme of sorts. Yeah, not sure what I think.

IKAN104 · #**464** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 4:41 PM**

To build the entire project would cost over $400 million at current prices. So far the government has committed only to building the new part with the underground parkade. No money has been committed to renovate the old building.

IKAN104 · #**465** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 4:45 PM**

I like it. I especially like the bold new front entrance design overhanging 102 Ave. Unfortunately that's the part that's not funded.

murman · #**466** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 4:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by IKAN104

The new Provincial Museum of Alberta - Scanned from the Journal

so another Cohos @ss-w1pe design. And why am I not surprised?

If I read this "design motif" correctly, Cohos is either giving Edmonton the shaft or giving it the finger, take your pick.

You want world class architecture? This qualifies as "third world class".

tony0911 · #**467** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 4:58 PM**

Haven't been on here long but notice that you bash and dislike everthing posted here murman....I would like to see the quality of some of your work.....maybe you don't have any......I like the new design

on the grid · #**468** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 5:14 PM**

These pictures were on the journal website. If they don't show up properly, they can be found in the photo galleries section.

EdmTrekker · #**469** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 5:15 PM**

What a pathetic announcement. Something is not right with the spin of the article in the Edmonton Journal - you have the Museum Director being the Spin Master for the Government downplaying the little matter of what is now being called "Phase 2" and the Architect talking about "function" as being so important - and actual design getting fleeting comment. That tells me there was a actual planned strategy to put a positive spin on an adequately designed and funded building that is only to be HALF built. When you have the internal Government client (the Museum Director) taking centre stage instead of the Minister, and the Architect apologizing or downplaying the design effort and suggesting 1/2 glass is really a full glass - what do you really get? - Simply a cover-up for failure to do it right - and a glass that is 1/2 EMPTY! (not full). Government SHOULD fund the entire project now - and pump in the additional $200 NOW - so there are no pitiful excuses! What really pisses me off - is that Bruce McGillivray the Museum Director is attempting to shade the Government from criticism in not funding what is clearly required and Donna Clare is talking about function and not design. Good grief Donna, if we only wanted function - we should have hired engineers does "draw up" the plans. What is the point of hiring a "design" architect if form and architectural brilliance are not part of the design? And how dare the lot of you criticize the work of other designers to "soften the blow". What utter crap and unprofessional comments in your interviews. Even the Journal took part in this!

Ralph - if you’re reading this - save us from this blunder please! Step up, build the entire project now - and let’s not have a half assed project constructed from the get go.

IKAN104 · #**470** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 5:30 PM**

Maybe Ralph will see this as a legacy project for himself and he'll spend the extra $200 million to do it right.

Kevin_foster · #**471** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 5:35 PM**

I personally like it. The underground parking is ACE.

But I agree with EdmTrekker on the whole issue on the whole.

etown · #**472** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 5:36 PM**

@ HomeInMyShoes

Oasis Edmonton is a cult run by Jon de Ruiter. I'm serious. My neighbors are involved as are a number of other people in my neighborhood. Google his name and theres lots of info on him.

Kevin_foster · #**473** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 5:42 PM**

I'm pretty pumped for tomorrow.

Too bad I don't have a digital camera (I left it at Second cup a few months ago, and it was stolen.. nevertheless, I have to ante up for a new one).

Anyone who is going, bring a camera.

IKAN104 · #**474** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 5:55 PM**

I'll be there with my camera.

rapid_business · #**475** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 6:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by etown

@ HomeInMyShoes

Oasis Edmonton is a cult run by Jon de Ruiter. I'm serious. My neighbors are involved as are a number of other people in my neighborhood. Google his name and theres lots of info on him.

Yeah, I remember reading about him and his cult in Saturday Night Mag. a couple years ago. Pretty wacked out. So I guess they have a conference centre they run? (their meeting place other wise)

sdimedru · #**476** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by on the grid

These pictures were on the journal website. If they don't show up properly, they can be found in the photo galleries section.

i really like the look actually, one thing i think would be neat is a riverside patio &/or restaurant. you could go for a nice lunch while visiting on your museum trip, or it could serve as a nice place for banquets or a reputable place to have dinner in the evenings

just a thought, maybe there's something like that already there, its been ages since i was there last

mattb · #**477** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 6:04 PM**

$200 Million for an addition to a museum? You have got to be kidding me! Why dont they spend that money on a new Oilers rink!

rapid_business · #**478** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 6:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by IKAN104

I'll be there with my camera.

Hahaha, my Dad just emailed me telling me to come with him to Shaw on Sat. for "some interesting architecture stuff". Good to hear this information is getting around!

IKAN104 · #**479** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 6:10 PM**

It should be pretty busy methinks.

Kevin_foster · #**480** Posted **Nov 17, 2006, 6:20 PM**

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It should be pretty busy methinks.

It'll be exciting, thats for sure. I'm sure this forum will be a buzz when it's over.