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Old Posted Aug 20, 2006, 1:56 AM
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Isn't Mandel Lofts under construction? And I walked by the Victor Clothing lofts and there was construction going on.
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^ Yes. Both are under construction. In fact, if any of the characters from Mean Girls or Material Girls were to walk by there, they would say they were like, sooooooo under construction.
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^ They wouldn't say that. If anything, they would be pissed that dust got on their clothing.
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Is that an updated rendering of Venice Investment's Hope Street Condo Tower adjacent to Packard Lofts? If it is, it looks a helluva lot better than the old one!




I checked on the map, and this is right between 1100 Wilshire and the Medici. I'm not familiar with this one at all. Who's the developer?
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Is that an updated rendering of Venice Investment's Hope Street Condo Tower adjacent to Packard Lofts?
Unfortunately not. This is CIM's tower planned at 8th and Hope, directly "behind" the Market Lofts (Ralph's). It's currently a surface lot they're using as a construction staging ground for Ralph's.
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Plans Build for Downtown L.A.
Moinian Group expects to put up two condo towers, restaurants and shops on a four-acre parcel by Staples Center.
By Roger Vincent, Times Staff Writer
August 22, 2006


Efforts to make the Staples Center area of downtown Los Angeles a hub for housing, retail and entertainment got a boost Monday when a New York developer announced plans to build two condominium towers, shops and restaurants across the street from the arena.

Moinian Group, one of the country's largest privately held real estate firms, said it paid $80 million for four acres at the corner of 11th and Figueroa streets and plans two residential towers of 45 stories and 33 stories with more than 700 units combined. The land, sold by Staples owner Anschutz Entertainment Group, was previously slated to be developed as housing by KB Home and Lennar Corp. It is across the street diagonally from the $2.5-billion LA Live development under construction north of Staples.

"We have a great deal of faith in the redevelopment of downtown Los Angeles and we think we can add to what is happening in a significant way," said Oskar Brecher, director of development at Moinian, which has major luxury high-rise residential and hotel projects in New York.

The company expects to break ground in 2007 and complete the nearly 2 million-square-foot project within three years. It was founded in 1990 by Joseph Moinian, who leveraged his earnings in the fashion industry to acquire loft buildings in Manhattan. Today, the company owns and manages more than $8 billion in residential, retail and hotel properties including the former Downtown Athletic Club in New York, home of the Heisman Trophy.

KB and Lennar's planned project unraveled after KB withdrew to instead form a partnership with AEG to develop a hotel and condo tower at L.A. Live.

Moinian's residential towers would house three types of units: lofts that could include condominiums, penthouses and so-called live-work units that could house small businesses. The target buyers are young professionals who work downtown. Prices are likely to range from $500,000 to $2 million.

At street level would be 250,000 square feet of retail space earmarked for a specialty grocery store, health club, shops and restaurants.

Several buyers bid on the property, said broker Rich Mayo of O'Donnell/Atkins, who represented Moinian in the deal.

"It demonstrates there is a lot of confidence in downtown," Mayo said, even as residential builders have been pulling back in other regions.

Moinian also plans to develop condominiums and perhaps a small hotel at a nearby site it recently acquired at 808 S. Olive St., Brecher said. That project would include 250 to 300 condos and cost as much as $100 million.

Partnering with Moinian on the Los Angeles projects is investor Henry Shahery, a partner at Miami-based Cabi Developers, which is a subsidiary of GICSA of Mexico City. Other downtown projects are being considered by the team, Shahery said.

"It's a growing market and we see opportunity," he said.

AEG, the developer of Staples Center and L.A. Live, has been selling land in the area with the intent that it be used for upscale housing. Developers have completed one condominium tower and have three more under construction on former AEG property.

AEG is the sports and entertainment subsidiary of the Anschutz Co., which is owned by Denver billionaire Philip Anschutz. Among AEG's properties are Home Depot Center in Carson and Nokia Theatre in Grand Prairie, Texas. It is developing arenas in London, Berlin and Kansas City and owns the Los Angeles Kings hockey team and four Major League soccer franchises.

The company also has increased the housing component it is building at L.A. Live to about 2,000 apartments and condos by reducing planned office space and other uses, bringing the total number of housing units planned around the arena to about 3,000.

The strategy, said AEG Vice President Ted Tanner, "is to build a vibrant residential community — and add a lot more patrons for our restaurants, clubs and other venues" at L.A. Live.

The tourist-oriented "sports-entertainment" hub is slated to have a 54-story hotel and condo tower, 7,100-seat live performance theater, broadcast facilities, a 14-screen movie theater and nearly a dozen restaurants and clubs.

Excavation of the L.A. Live site is underway and completion is expected in phases starting in fall 2007. Tanner said AEG hoped to start work next year with co-developer KB Home on the hotel and condo portion of the project that is expected to house a JW Marriott and a Ritz-Carlton with a combined total of 1,000 rooms.
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You should also bold the new project on 8th and olive! as well as the 2007 groundbreaking date! what a great project. they also have a rendering in the actual newspaper, but i couldnt find it online.
     
     
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Is that an updated rendering of Venice Investment's Hope Street Condo Tower adjacent to Packard Lofts? If it is, it looks a helluva lot better than the old one!
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Unfortunately not. This is CIM's tower planned at 8th and Hope, directly "behind" the Market Lofts (Ralph's). It's currently a surface lot they're using as a construction staging ground for Ralph's.
It's a great look, very active. Plus, the building across Hope Street is covered with mirrored windows, so this will effectively double the amount of visual activity generated by this building.

Now my attention turns to the north corners of 8th and Hope. These corners have Macys Plaza (on the NW) and some piggy little garage (on the NE). Neither of these corners are taking full advantage of the value of their property. I'd love to see a major redesign of Macy's Plaza, as well as some high-rise construction where the little garage sits.

Here is the desciption from CIM's Website:

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801 - 821 South Hope Street, Los Angeles, CA

Acquired in December 2001, this property is located just south of the city’s Central Business District. It totals approximately 40,000 square feet and occupies the southwest corner of the intersection of 8th Street and South Hope Street. The site is currently vacant.

A mix of residential and retail uses are planned for the site. Residential parking will be afforded by a new garage to be constructed on the adjacent “Market at 9th and Flower” property immediately to the south. The residential development envisions market rate loft style apartments, with appropriate amenities. Fronting 8th Street and South Hope Street, this site is only a block’s walk to the city’s business district and a few blocks north of the entertainment complex at The STAPLES Center. There is also excellent access to Metro Rail and the 110 (Pasadena and Harbor) and the 10 (Santa Monica and San Bernardino) freeways.
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what a great project. they also have a rendering in the actual newspaper, but i couldnt find it online.
The rendering in the newspaper looks great. Similar to the previous proposal in terms of massing, with more of an emphasis on the vertical aspects of the design. It has some recessed balconies, but it's definitely more modern, substantial and not "Vancouverish". And yes, LAB, it appears they have lots of signage for the "Times Square" effect. If anyone has a scanner, it's in the print version of the Business section.
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Here is a close up picture, I noticed that Moinian Group is calling this project LA Central:

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Is this the tower labeled as Market Lofts on the DTLA interactive map? Wow, CIM literally owns the block and that block along with Hanover, Concerto, LA Live, etc. will be very vibrant. CIM is doing a good job of reviving not just DTLA but all of LA really.
     
     
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I checked on the map, and this is right between 1100 Wilshire and the Medici. I'm not familiar with this one at all. Who's the developer?
Not sure who the developer is but the land is for sale and it is fully entitled. Here is the blurb and a better picture of where it is located:

Best priced fully-entitled multifamily land in Downtown Los Angeles! This High-rise development parcel is fully entitled for a 330 unit, 378,635 gross FAR square foot tower at an acquistion cost of approximately $54,545 per unit or $47.54 per gross FAR square foot. Buyer/Developer has the potential to build an iconic, freeway visible, residential condominium tower that boasts views of the Los Angeles Skyline, Staples Center, Catalina Island, Santa Monica Beach, and the Hollywood Hills. This unique land opportunity is perfect for the developer seeking to capitalize on the "for sale" residential condominium market in Downtown which has skyrocketed to an average sales price $572/square foot as of Q1 2006.



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So LASportsFan, I think it's time to update your list. Add:

Park Tower
8th and Hope
LA Central
1110 Ingraham


There are also plans for:

1247 West Seventh Street

808 South Olive Street

Four Seasons at Figueroa and Seventh Streets

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Thanks LAMG! That new rendering of 1110 Ingraham is awesome as an infill project. City West is slowly going to help Downtown LA connect with MacArthur Park and Koreatown.
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^ Least it isn't another Medici/Orsini/Visconti/Piero.

Very much looking forward to LA Central. Lights + sound + prime location (across the street from Staples/LA Live + vibrant design=
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Hum ok well I don't seem to sound like an 🞵🞵🞵 but the "Rundown" of projects is well... sort of confusing everything is mixed up with each other. You have new projects mixed up with Conversion. Then it goes to the forum and then it jumps back in again with more rendering and well its just a mess . Don't get me wrong i appreciate the effort and all that's put into it but i just think it needs to be cleaned up just a little bit. I am just giving some constructive criticism, i mean am i wrong that i think its a little all over the place . It just need to be consistent. I have to say that having the conversion rendering or the pics of the old building going through a make over is very helpful that way, well at least for me cause then ill know what people are talking about when they mention a certain building. Some of the new rendering i think look pretty good . But it just needs to be consistent que no?
     
     
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Yeah LA Central will be great and if they add lights and neon and giant screens man that will look awesome. I agree with you 3hundred no more orsini and the others.
     
     
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Hum ok well I don't seem to sound like an 🞵🞵🞵 but the "Rundown" of projects is well... sort of confusing everything is mixed up with each other. You have new projects mixed up with Conversion. Then it goes to the forum and then it jumps back in again with more rendering and well its just a mess . Don't get me wrong i appreciate the effort and all that's put into it but i just think it needs to be cleaned up just a little bit. I am just giving some constructive criticism, i mean am i wrong that i think its a little all over the place . It just need to be consistent. I have to say that having the conversion rendering or the pics of the old building going through a make over is very helpful that way, well at least for me cause then ill know what people are talking about when they mention a certain building. Some of the new rendering i think look pretty good . But it just needs to be consistent que no?
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So I'm pretty sure that LA Central replaces Figueroa Central and should be reflected on the first page.

Also, add the Northwest Gateway (on the former Toluca Yard in City West [where Second, Lucas, and Glendale all meet]) to the first page for "Under Construction."




EDIT: Also, the "Metro Center" picture is incorrect. The actual picture is this one:


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Park Tower
8th and Hope
LA Central
1110 Ingraham
They're already on my list...except LA central says Fig Central

1247 West Seventh Street: I'm waiting for more details on that one, im not going to simply post an address.

Four Seasons at Figueroa and Seventh Streets
W Hotel at Grand Avenue Project

Can you link me to these? Is it anything more than speculation?

RAlossi: Fixed Metro Center, Northwest gateway isn't even downtown, I'll put down major projects directly west of the 110, but we have to draw the line somewhere. There are dozens of projects in the neighborhood surrounding northwest gateway.

And LASportsFan? Have I missed anything from your list? If not, you may want to take down your post, because it seems to be confusing LA420 and Westsidelife

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