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Old Posted Jul 12, 2006, 3:39 AM
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hmmm, Bystanders mention of the McClinton pics made me look for their website.

Whoa. I didn't know. I thought you guys had visited their website before.
I would've provided a link a long time ago had I known you hadn't been there...
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2006, 4:01 AM
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never thought about it.

What they are showing for High Point is freakin' huge....

but McClinton has a long list of failures too... just look at their for sale page...

yikes.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2006, 4:25 AM
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Yes, McClinton is a sort of cut-and-run type of developer. Plus, many of his 'big development' ideas don't always pan out...or at least how he wants it to. So, like his former boss, Jim Wilson, he will simply cut and run; sell it quick and move on to something else.

Most of the time that may make good business sense, but it also leads to sprawl and blight.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2006, 6:21 PM
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LPGA tour a boon for area economy *UPDATE*

By Sarah Stephens
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It will be more than a year before the Ladies Professional Golf Association brings the Navistar Classic to Prattville and Capitol Hill, but you wouldn't know it by talking to department heads in charge of food service, the fairways, greens and hospitality.

In their minds, time is short and there is much to do.

"This is a very important event and we will be ready for it," Sean Curry, director of golf, said.



The announcement last week of the new golf classic lifted the spirits of golf enthusiasts, who were disappointed when Nationwide opted not to return to Prattville for their tour.

Prattville Mayor Jim Byard Jr. said that immediately after learning Nationwide was not coming back, city and state officials went to work looking for a replacement.

"We knew there were other possibilities out there and we knew we wanted to them to consider Prattville and what we have to offer," Byard said. "This is going to be a great thing for the Prattville community and it means millions and millions of dollars in revenue."

It also means that the city will have to dole out some money as incentives, just as it did to get Nationwide here. That amount is still up for debate, Byard said, and under negotiation.

The difference between Nationwide and the LPGA event is huge.

"With Nationwide, you had about 50 golfers compared to the 140 we are expecting for Navistar," Curry said. "With Nationwide, we fed about 300 people breakfast and lunch. If you do simple math, you can expect to at least double that amount for this event in the fall."

In order to make that happen, it will taken an increase in staff, something Curry has already considered.

"Fortunately, we have other facilities to draw from in order to make sure we are prepared," Curry said. "We would rather pull in experienced people who know what they are doing than try to train someone during that time."

Curry expects the The Legends at Capitol Hill Hotel to be full, but surrounding hotels and motels will reap the benefits of the thousands of people expected to come and be a part of the gallery for the four-day event.

"They are going to be staying in the hotels, eating at the restaurants and shopping at the stores," Curry said. "This is going to benefit everyone."

Prattville Area Chamber of Commerce Executive Vice President Jeremy Arthur echoed Curry's sentiment, adding the event will mean an additional $4 million to $8 million in additional revenue to the area.

"It is hard to gauge the exact amount, especially considering this is our first time to have an event of this size," Arthur said. "But whatever it is, it is more than we would have seen, and something that will have a huge, positive impact."

While other officials may be busy calculating the expenses and revenues, Robert Wingo is more concerned with grass, fairways, bunkers and drought.

Wingo is the director of maintenance for the three golf courses at Capitol Hill, and he is paying particular attention to The Senator course these days, as it will be the home of the Navistar Classic in the fall of next year.

"In this, you are talking about a double-tee event and that is really going to change our morning and evening routines," Wingo said.

Double tee means that the entire course will have golf action at one time. With Nationwide, the golfers started on the first half of the course, then moved on to the second half. This allowed for maintenance crews to flow in directly behind golfers and make repairs. With a full field event and 140 golfers, that will not be an option during the Navistar Classic.

"What it means is we will be here around 4 a.m. preparing the course, and here late at night making repairs," Wingo said.

Even without a tournament on the horizon, the task of maintaining more than 500 acres of golf courses is daunting for the 45-person crew. There are no days of rest where mowing and water are concerned, and the recent drought has given Wingo sleepless nights.

"Right now, there are places on the course that are just burned up and brown," Wingo said. "But we are working on that."

All greens are mowed twice a day by the staff, which is also always on the lookout for unexpected surprises or divots left by golfers on the fairway.

"We will really start the process of preparing for Navistar in earnest in January," Wingo said. "The plan is to do everything so the course will peak about the week of the event. That means the proper timing of fertilizer and chemicals and a lot of planning."

Of the three courses available for the tour, Curry explained why The Senator was the best choice.

The Senator is designed much like golf courses in the Scottish Highland, without trees but with many dunes.

"It has bent grass and, logistically, it makes more sense when you consider having to move in bleachers and stands," Curry said. "You also consider emergency situations if we have to get everyone off the course quickly due to a lightning storm or other emergency."

However, Curry said perhaps the biggest reason for choosing The Senator is that it will be very different than most golf courses found stateside, because it does mimic the Scottish courses.

"When you look at The Legislator, it is kind of a mixture of what you can find in other courses," Curry said. "The Judge is by far the most difficult course and has 14 holes along the water."

When it comes to golf, Curry knows what he is talking about. As the senior golf professional on staff, he began his love for the game at the age of 12.

"I was fortunate in that my family was a member of a country club and my parents would drop me off for the day and pick me up in the afternoons," Curry said. "I spent my time on the golf course, and even in that first year ended up being a pretty good golfer."

Curry believes the key to improving the game and growing the fan base is to reach out to younger players. Young, professional golfers like Tiger Woods and Michelle Wie have done a lot to bring in younger players, Curry said.

"Golf is the kind of sport that once you go out and do it a couple of times, it can really hook you and draw you in," Curry said. "We offer complimentary clinics throughout the summer to try and draw in new golfers. But I believe the best way is still to reach out to the junior players. That draws not only them, but their parents as well."

While everyone at Capitol Hill will have his or her hands full in the fall of 2007, Curry said he tips his golf hat to the maintenance crew.

"People really don't give these people enough credit, but they are the ones that keep it going," Curry said. "This is a team and the members lay it on the line day in and day out to make the courses as beautiful as they are. They make my job a lot easier, in fact."
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For those of you interested and can watch:

Robert Trent Jones Information
John Cannon, President of Sunbelt Golf that operates the Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail, will appear on Alabama Public TV's For the Record tonight (July 12) at 6:30pm. This will be Channel 5 (Montgomery) on most cable systems. He will discuss the new LPGA tournament at the Capitol Hill golf course as well as plans to lure more tournaments. He will also take viewer calls at 866-552-0025
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Wow..... we could turn ourselves into a golf city! Major tourism!
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2006, 7:24 PM
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Auburn has the nod for best public courses, but Montgomery has it's share of nice ones too... while the middle of the summer can get too hot to play, we've got killer fall, winter and spring golf options.

The hotel downtown really needs to be finished quickly... this made me think. You know the Montgomery area has only got 2 really nice hotels? The Embassy and the Legends are it... There are decent hotels around, near the interstates (Hampton and Hilton Garden being the 2 best), but no 'destination' hotels...

never really thought about that... guess it's cause I don't stay in MTGY hotels

Sulley, why don't you work on that.
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I think with the 3 major hotels in the Montgomery CBD VERY NEAR the interchange of North/South I-65 - it's sufficient. I'm sure Prattville will soon add some "nicer" hotels considering the increased traffic/tourism with the new retail centers and golf. What do you think?
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The hotel downtown really needs to be finished quickly... this made me think. You know the Montgomery area has only got 2 really nice hotels? The Embassy and the Legends are it... There are decent hotels around, near the interstates (Hampton and Hilton Garden being the 2 best), but no 'destination' hotels...

never really thought about that... guess it's cause I don't stay in MTGY hotels

Sulley, why don't you work on that.
I think Sulley likes it just the way it is...
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2006, 9:44 PM
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A. Unknown development – PUD – plans submitted to planning commission
B. Unknown development – luxury apartments – plans submitted to planning commission
C. Community Village – mixed use development – plans submitted to planning commission
D. Unknown development – PUD – plans submitted to planning commission – turned down by city council; must make changes and resubmit plans for approval
E. Unknown development – PUD – plans submitted to planning commission
F. Unknown development – PUD – roads, sewers, sidewalks, and lakes are currently under construction
G. Taylor Lakes – PUD – under construction
H. Unknown development – PUD – plans submitted to planning commission
I. Hampstead – new urban development – plans submitted to planning commission
J. *Aronov property*no plans submitted as of yet
K. Ryan Ridge – PUD – under construction
L. Jim Wilson development – mixed use development – plans submitted to planning commission

UPDATE: Project "F"

Finally found info on this project. It's called Somerhill. They (Watts Homes) claim its a "smart growth" development but it doesn't look like one to me. Seems to be a good infill project though.


Here's the layout.



http://somerhill.net/
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Montgomery Plans to Host Wi-Fi Hot Spots

Panera Bread has more than its danishes to draw a crowd. They also host a "hot spot," a place where anyone with a laptop computer can log on to the Internet wirelessly.

More and more coffee shops and bookstores are offering this service as the demand increases. The city of Montgomery may soon be hosting a few hot spots of it's own to promote growth downtown.

Jeff Downes, Assistant to the Mayor, says, "As we were developing and improving our Court Square, we could lay the ground work for some wireless hot spots."

Montgomery wants to encourage the creation of free public "hot spots" in the metro area. The demand for Wi-Fi is already here at Troy University. One group of graduate students gathered Wednesday in coffee shop on the east side because of limited Internet access downtown, but even this comfortable setting has it's drawbacks.

Graduate student and Wi-Fi user, Marilyn Turner, says "If we had more hot spots downtown, then places like this... The other day there were so many people in here. That's one thing, it's becoming overcrowded."

Most so called hot spots are in crowded airport terminals and loud coffee shops. Just imagine having that same free wireless access outside at the city's scenic waterfront. Having free wireless access could bring visitors to the new convention center out of their rooms to conduct business and compel people who work and attend school downtown to hang out a while before going home.

Student, Demetrius Coleman, adds,"It would bring more restaurants and just people down there who can enjoy our wonderful city. It has a lot of heritage and things to see and it would be nice to be downtown and enjoy it a little bit more."

Cities such as Chattanooga and Louisville have already put a Wi-Fi system in place in their revitalized downtown areas. Montgomery wants to follow in its lead.

The city hopes to partner with businesses to make this concept become a reality.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2006, 12:43 PM
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Charlston had a free local wifi service that was neat. The Radius.
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More and more coffee shops and bookstores are offering this service as the demand increases. The city of Montgomery may soon be hosting a few hot spots of it's own to promote growth downtown.

Jeff Downes, Assistant to the Mayor, says, "As we were developing and improving our Court Square, we could lay the ground work for some wireless hot spots."

Montgomery wants to encourage the creation of free public "hot spots" in the metro area. The demand for Wi-Fi is already here at Troy University. One group of graduate students gathered Wednesday in coffee shop on the east side because of limited Internet access downtown, but even this comfortable setting has it's drawbacks.
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Sounds like the suggestion worked.
My sister-in-law asked about it because it would work well with a possible restaurant/coffee shop plan she may invest in downtown. What we heard from the city was that it's currently being studied but there is no definite timetable for implementation.

BrownDuckz, where's the source of this article?
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I found it on Montgomery Advertiser's site under the top "breaking news" column earlier today.
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Bystander, the AWF building has excellent potential as a restaurant/coffee shop.


Articles from the Cottage Hill Historical Foundation.









you know... I didn't know that Winter Thorington was actually living in that place.... creepy...
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The condos are a go? How high will the structure rise? 3-4 stories?
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Bystander, the AWF building has excellent potential as a restaurant/coffee shop.


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Thanks for the info Thoraudio. Very interesting read...

I may need some more info from you about the City Federal building later on.
I don't know if my sister-in-law went into the AWF building, but I'll ask her about it when she gets back to Atlanta.
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State office gets grant for job-training center


Worldwide Interactive Network, a national publisher of work force training materials, has named the Alabama Office of Workforce Development the top employee development agency in the United States.

The honor is accompanied by a $1 million grant for a state-of-the-art interactive job training center. The site of the center has not been determined.

The purpose of the center will be to prepare employees for Alabama's high-growth advanced manufacturing industries.

Gov. Bob Riley combined several state work force development programs into one with the signing of an executive order in December 2003, and he named Enterprise Mayor Tim Alford the director.

Seven different state agencies oversaw more than $104 million in federal work force funds before the 2003 executive order.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2006, 5:40 PM
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Brown, you said you worked on Perry right?

any idea what they are doing next to 1st Baptist where they tore down the Hardin's office furniture place (looks like the Kwik Stop is next).
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