High-rise housing havens

[craigs]

Originally Posted by Notonfoodstamps

Yeah it going to be impossible to find buildings counts in the 4-8 story range.

SSP diagrams page(s) has minimum +100' threshold on what can be submitted but you can view "all buildings" under drowning selections and its gives a pretty comprehensive list, granted the listing is updated via submissions so take these numbers with a grain(s) of salt.

List of principle US city propers with over 100 buildings over +100' tall (includes U/C)

NYC - 7,289
Chicago - 1338
LA - 628
Boston - 597
Miami - 585
Houston - 509
San Francisco / Oakland - 507 + 73
DC - 499
Honolulu - 471
Philly - 408
Denver - 348
Dallas / Fort Worth - 325 + 63
Atlanta - 323
Seattle - 294
Austin - 218
St. Louis - 213
Minneapolis / St. Paul - 211 + 61
Detroit - 197
Las Vegas - 183
Baltimore - 177
Portland - 175
San Diego - 168
Pittsburgh - 166
Nashville - 157
Kansas City - 149
Cleveland - 122
Cincinnati - 119
Milwaukee - 119
Charlotte - 113
Columbus - 101

Cites with small geographic footprints or high-rise nodes outside the city proper are going to be artificially undercounted at this height threshold.

If you're combining SF with Oakland & Dallas with Ft. Worth, etc., you should probably combine Los Angeles with Long Beach.

[Notonfoodstamps]

Originally Posted by craigs

If you're combining SF with Oakland & Dallas with Ft. Worth, etc., you should probably combine Los Angeles with Long Beach.

I didn't include sattelite cities.

[Notonfoodstamps]

Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

I'm working on a ~300 unit, 5-storey woodframe building as we speak! That's certainly atypical though. Typical tower floorplates here have 8-10 units per floor, so you'd usually need around 30 storeys to get that unit count in a more conventional format.

Yeah I'd imagine most 5-over-1/2 wood frames on large enough lots (~2 acres) comfortably hit that +300 unit mark. Theres 3 of them under construction right now in Baltimore that each have 3-400 units. I can only imagine the pipeline in cities like Austin or Charlotte.

You'd struggle to find <50 unit building with double digit floor counts outside of luxo condo's in Miami or NYC.

[mhays]

Vancouver and Toronto have much higher percentages in highrises than most US cities.

300-unit woodframes are common in the US, including here in Seattle and our suburbs such as Bellevue and Redmond.

PS, Vancouver's towers tend to have especially small floorplates.

[iheartthed]

And here are the 50+ unit stats per MSA:

50+ unit %age of overall housing units per MSA, 2024 5-year estimates

20% -- New York City
19% -- Miami
16% -- Washington, D.C.
14% -- San Jose
12% -- Minneapolis
12% -- Seattle
12% -- San Francisco
11% -- Los Angeles
11% -- San Diego
11% -- Denver
11% -- Austin
10% -- Houston
10% -- Chicago
10% -- Dallas-Fort Worth
10% -- Boston
9% -- Portland
9% -- Las Vegas
8% -- Phoenix
8% -- Cleveland
8% -- Milwaukee
8% -- Atlanta
7% -- Philadelphia
7% -- Nashville
6% -- Baltimore
5% -- San Antonio
5% -- Charlotte
5% -- Jacksonville
5% -- Columbus
5% -- Pittsburgh
5% -- Detroit
4% -- Buffalo
4% -- Cincinnati
4% -- St. Louis
4% -- Indanapolis
4% -- Memphis
4% -- Oklahoma City
4% -- Louisville
4% -- El Paso


50+ unit count per MSA, 2024 5-year estimates

1,577,666 -- New York City
543,572 -- Los Angeles
502,227 -- Miami
390,504 -- Washington, D.C.
385,924 -- Chicago
304,854 -- Houston
300,337 -- Dallas-Fort Worth
221,210 -- San Francisco
208,819 -- Seattle
198,480 -- Boston
192,450 -- Minneapolis
189,646 -- Atlanta
188,236 -- Philadelphia
169,816 -- Phoenix
137,601 -- Denver
133,897 -- San Diego
110,606 -- Austin
98,051 -- Portland
97,903 -- San Jose
89,771 -- Detroit
82,115 -- Cleveland
81,327 -- Las Vegas
76,876 -- Baltimore
62,710 -- Nashville
61,258 -- Charlotte
57,980 -- San Antonio
55,849 -- Milwaukee
55,067 -- Pittsburgh
50,679 -- St. Louis
44,655 -- Columbus
38,957 -- Cincinnati
35,688 -- Jacksonville
35,526 -- Indanapolis
24,189 -- Oklahoma City
22,607 -- Memphis
21,850 -- Buffalo
21,637 -- Louisville
11,590 -- El Paso

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by mhays

That brings up the question of how many units each city (core city) has in the 20-49 category. Here's a partial list:

New York: 16%
LA: 13%
Seattle: 12%
SF: 11%
Minneapolis: 10%
Miami: 9%
Denver: 9%
Boston: 9%
DC: 8%
Dallas: 8%
Portland: 8%
Atlanta: 7%
Houston: 7%
Chicago: 7%

I imagined NYC's, Seattle's, and LA's numbers would be high. Buildings of that size are extremely common for new construction in Seattle because they can fit into one or two former house lots or single commercial lots particularly if they don't have much parking. They're also common in LA, often in the dingbat style though many of those are smaller than 20.

20 - 49 unit percentage of overall housing units per city, 2024 5-year estimates

16% -- New York City
13% -- Los Angeles
12% -- Seattle
11% -- San Francisco
10% -- Minneapolis
10% -- Denver
9% -- Miami
9% -- Boston
9% -- Austin
8% -- Dallas
8% -- Washington, D.C.
7% -- Portland
7% -- Milwaukee
7% -- Chicago
7% -- Houston
7% -- Charlotte
7% -- San Diego
6% -- Cincinnati
6% -- Atlanta
6% -- Nashville
6% -- San Antonio
5% -- Jacksonville
5% -- Pittsburgh
5% -- Columbus
5% -- St. Louis
4% -- Fort Worth
4% -- San Jose
4% -- Phoenix
4% -- Detroit
4% -- Buffalo
4% -- Cleveland
4% -- Philadelphia
3% -- Louisville
3% -- Indanapolis
3% -- Las Vegas
3% -- Baltimore
3% -- Oklahoma City
3% -- El Paso
2% -- Memphis


20 - 49 unit count per city, 2024 5-year estimates

590,079 -- New York City
207,245 -- Los Angeles
84,270 -- Chicago
68,612 -- Houston
48,662 -- Seattle
47,567 -- Dallas
44,168 -- San Francisco
41,668 -- Austin
37,059 -- San Diego
34,718 -- Denver
33,998 -- San Antonio
27,590 -- Philadelphia
27,330 -- Washington, D.C.
26,983 -- Phoenix
26,909 -- Boston
26,185 -- Charlotte
22,034 -- Portland
20,766 -- Jacksonville
20,661 -- Minneapolis
19,856 -- Columbus
19,497 -- Miami
19,369 -- Nashville
17,665 -- Milwaukee
16,727 -- Fort Worth
16,594 -- Atlanta
14,812 -- San Jose
13,118 -- Detroit
13,090 -- Indanapolis
10,018 -- Cincinnati
9,980 -- Louisville
8,781 -- Baltimore
8,604 -- Oklahoma City
8,440 -- Las Vegas
8,005 -- St. Louis
7,966 -- Cleveland
7,581 -- Pittsburgh
7,379 -- El Paso
7,014 -- Memphis
5,444 -- Buffalo


20 - 49 unit percentage of overall housing units per MSA, 2024 5-year estimates

10% -- New York City
10% -- Miami
8% -- Los Angeles
7% -- San Francisco
6% -- Denver
6% -- Seattle
6% -- Austin
6% -- Milwaukee
6% -- Boston
6% -- Minneapolis
5% -- San Diego
5% -- San Jose
5% -- Dallas-Fort Worth
4% -- Chicago
4% -- Portland
4% -- San Antonio
4% -- Houston
4% -- Jacksonville
4% -- Nashville
4% -- Charlotte
3% -- Atlanta
3% -- Washington, D.C.
3% -- Philadelphia
3% -- Las Vegas
3% -- Columbus
3% -- Cleveland
3% -- Phoenix
3% -- Pittsburgh
2% -- El Paso
2% -- Louisville
2% -- Indanapolis
2% -- Cincinnati
2% -- Detroit
2% -- Buffalo
2% -- Oklahoma City
2% -- St. Louis
2% -- Baltimore
2% -- Memphis


20 - 49 unit count per MSA, 2024 5-year estimates

777,911 -- New York City
383,622 -- Los Angeles
254,875 -- Miami
174,317 -- Chicago
142,482 -- Dallas-Fort Worth
125,625 -- San Francisco
115,074 -- Houston
114,951 -- Boston
108,430 -- Seattle
86,970 -- Atlanta
85,964 -- Minneapolis
83,185 -- Denver
82,176 -- Washington, D.C.
80,505 -- Philadelphia
68,306 -- San Diego
61,918 -- Austin
55,996 -- Phoenix
46,611 -- Portland
44,384 -- Detroit
43,614 -- Charlotte
42,844 -- San Antonio
41,411 -- Milwaukee
35,374 -- San Jose
33,934 -- Nashville
29,669 -- Pittsburgh
29,006 -- Las Vegas
28,630 -- Cleveland
28,309 -- Jacksonville
27,775 -- Columbus
26,531 -- St. Louis
25,037 -- Baltimore
22,406 -- Cincinnati
21,806 -- Indanapolis
14,511 -- Louisville
13,117 -- Oklahoma City
11,547 -- Buffalo
9,353 -- Memphis
7,857 -- El Paso