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Old Posted Jun 29, 2026, 2:32 PM
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But how do you put them put of reach when they are on an urban street? Attach them to private buildings, which would probably require some sort of long term financial agreement?

Obviously we need to find someway to protect these, like a plexiglass cage or something, which would impact legibility.
STOs are on same pole as the stop flag, right below it. You could probably reach up and touch it, but it's a lot harder to get a good blow on it and cause damage.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2026, 5:12 PM
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STOs are on same pole as the stop flag, right below it. You could probably reach up and touch it, but it's a lot harder to get a good blow on it and cause damage.

If it’s to high, visually impaired people will have trouble seeing them.
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2026, 6:16 PM
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Any bus fleet updates?

I seen on the ZEB tracker site they've got 133 in service and 156 delivered. At least by the end of this month, we should be seeing noticeable improvement in service reliability.
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2026, 12:43 PM
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Long story short, it's for peak demand and power outages. They estimate they will be used 30 days a year, 120 hours per year.

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Why is OC Transpo installing natural gas generators for a zero-emission bus project?

The pair of four-megawatt generators are expected to be installed at the 1500 St-Laurent Blvd. garage by September.

By Natasha Baldin, Ottawa Citizen
Published Jun 11, 2026[/I]
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/oc-transpo-natural-gas-generators-buses
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What public servants need to know about the city’s $30M plan to handle return-to-office traffic
Sidewalk to National Defence campus, expanded bus service and steeper penalties for parking violations among solutions proposed by City of Ottawa staff.

By Ben Andrews, Ottawa Citizen
Published Jul 15, 2026 | Last updated 7 hours ago | 5 minute read




https://ottawacitizen.com/public-service/return-to-office-traffic
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A kilometer long sidewalk in the winter will be a fun walk
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All told, measures in the plan will cost around $30 million, with the city looking to recoup much of the expense from the feds.

In the case of the Moodie Drive sidewalk, the project will only go ahead with federal support.

“It’s all about the funding,” Kavanagh said. “Since (DND) themselves have expressed desire for this, we expect that they’ll come through.”

Because the project responds directly to a request from the department, Kavanagh said she expected the city to ask for a “hefty chunk” of the $3.92 million required to build the sidewalk and expand bus service to the campus from Tunney’s Pasture and Kanata.

Exactly how much of the total, she didn’t know.
And this is exactly why the feds should stop doubling down on Ottawa. This is some BS.

Ottawa politicians push for RTO.
Ottawa collects property taxes from all those public servants who live in Ottawa.
Ottawa doesn't want to pay for the infrastructure to get them to work just because they are federal employees. Do they make the same demand for other employers?
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And this is exactly why the feds should stop doubling down on Ottawa. This is some BS.

Ottawa politicians push for RTO.
Ottawa collects property taxes from all those public servants who live in Ottawa.
Ottawa doesn't want to pay for the infrastructure to get them to work just because they are federal employees. Do they make the same demand for other employers?
Honest question, does Amazon run a shuttle from the Vars Park and Ride to their warehouse or something similar. I don't see OC stopping there on the website.
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And this is exactly why the feds should stop doubling down on Ottawa. This is some BS.

Ottawa politicians push for RTO.
Ottawa collects property taxes from all those public servants who live in Ottawa.
Ottawa doesn't want to pay for the infrastructure to get them to work just because they are federal employees. Do they make the same demand for other employers?
The pushing for RTO and then whining about it is bonkers but the city doesn't have to connect employers the process should work in reverese. What did DND think would happen without enough parking? Were they using the NDHQ commuting numbers?:

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Honest question, does Amazon run a shuttle from the Vars Park and Ride to their warehouse or something similar. I don't see OC stopping there on the website.
No they provide parking like a normal employer. For $20/hr jobs. Taking the bus to a $150k DND desk job is just weird imho. I know it's normalized in Ottawa.
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"A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It's where the rich use public transportation." - Gustavo Petro
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The last kilometer.

In an alternate reality, DND would have talked with OC Transpo and negotiated the location of Moodie Station. DND or GoC would have ponied up the funding to have the stop located at the Campus.

But we have what we have. Oh well.
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Honest question, does Amazon run a shuttle from the Vars Park and Ride to their warehouse or something similar. I don't see OC stopping there on the website.
Amazon is in the middle of nowhere. The Carling Campus is 1 km from a station the city built. Pretending this is the same thing is nuts.

I hope that DSR Bank HQ selection committee is getting clippings of stories like this in their weekly brief. They should know the cheapskates they'd have to deal with if they setup here. "The DSR Bank caused a $30M infrastructure bill for its employees to get to work. They should pay that. Why should the Ottawa taxpayer be stuck with the bill of getting their employees to work?"
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The last kilometer.

In an alternate reality, DND would have talked with OC Transpo and negotiated the location of Moodie Station. DND or GoC would have ponied up the funding to have the stop located at the Campus.

But we have what we have. Oh well.
To my knowledge this was discussed. The cost to locate the station closer and the impact on options to continue into Kanata were considered to outweigh a closer location. That's fine. But then whining about building a sidewalk and providing bus service? Ridiculous.
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The pushing for RTO and then whining about it is bonkers but the city doesn't have to connect employers the process should work in reverese. What did DND think would happen without enough parking? Were they using the NDHQ commuting numbers?:
As explained before and in the Carling Campus thread, the city provided reassurances of a certain level of service when the move to Carling started. At the time, this was seen as the parking crunch being temporary with the likelihood that at least some percentage of Carling workers likely to choose transit naturally. That was not an unreasonable assumption. For example, I just asked Gemini how a transit commute could change for me after Stage 2. Goes from at least 90 mins to 65 mins with two transfers (Montreal and Moodie). Takes me 40 to 50 mins in traffic to drive most days. I would actually consider transit in this situation, if I'm still at Carling in 2028. And I can imagine, the people who live closer would see even more benefit.

However, the City first failed to deliver on Stage 2 in a reasonable amount of time. And it's now going to fail to deliver on the necessary infrastructure and service. It's why DND wants to repurpose the baseball diamonds for temporary parking and is planning another parking structure. But now we're in a strange timeline where the parking structure they build is probably going to enter service after Stage 2. I'm not sure the $75/mo they charge us will recover the cost of building that parking structure.
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Amazon is in the middle of nowhere. The Carling Campus is 1 km from a station the city built. Pretending this is the same thing is nuts.

I hope that DSR Bank HQ selection committee is getting clippings of stories like this in their weekly brief. They should know the cheapskates they'd have to deal with if they setup here. "The DSR Bank caused a $30M infrastructure bill for its employees to get to work. They should pay that. Why should the Ottawa taxpayer be stuck with the bill of getting their employees to work?"
The 222 bus literally stops 1.24km from the Amazon warehouse then hops on the highway to Vars.
Also, I wasn't 'pretending', i'm asking a question in response to someone asking if it was 'normal' to expect DND to pay for the sidewalk...so i'm wondering if Amazon did anything for their employees to get them from the nearest transit stop to their place of employment...you know, the question at hand here.
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To my knowledge this was discussed. The cost to locate the station closer and the impact on options to continue into Kanata were considered to outweigh a closer location. That's fine. But then whining about building a sidewalk and providing bus service? Ridiculous.
Agreed. It was one of I think 13 different routes that were looked at for this section. Lowest cost won/least work won.
I think its the wrong route but, here we are.
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