Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport (YOW/CYOW)

[RomanR27]

Originally Posted by MountainView

I said this regarding Porter.
Adding this as an Edit.

Ah gotcha, yeah IIRC last summer there was also a ~1400 departure, but an evening departure (which I think turned back to YOW as a redeye?) rather than a morning departure for the second frequency.

It looks like that 1400 departure goes YOW-YYC-YHM.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

Cutting YYG to 1x daily is enough capacity for local O&D without really needing connections, but certainly limits YYG connectivity.

So with today's addition, PD’s changes for summer 2026 are as follows (looking at late June):

Jet routes:

- MCO reduced from a max of daily to 3x weekly (days 156)
- FLL reduced from a max of daily to 2x weekly (days 16)
- YYZ reduced to 3x on day 6 (believe it was 4x in 2025)
- YVR reduced from 14x to 11x weekly
- YWG increased to 13x weekly (2x daily X6 at 1x)
- CUN added on days 256
- YLW initially added 5x weekly, now at 6x weekly (ops X1)
- YDF added 5x weekly

Net jet change: +7x weekly

Prop routes:
- YTZ reduced by about 12x weekly
- YQM reduced by 1x daily
- YYG reduced by 1x daily
- YQT reduced by 1x daily
- YQG added daily
- YSB added daily

Net prop change: -19x weekly

So as things currently stand, PD’s total YOW summertime capacity is approximately -1,116 seats/week.

So with the YYT additions, capacity for PD this summer is now -60 seats/week, so it’s now flat for all intents and purposes.

I still think there’s more to come from PD this summer…especially so long as the YQB-YYZ schedule makes no sense.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by RomanR27

Nice, appears YYT is indeed up to 11x weekly. Really surprised that wasn't included in the YDF press release. Nicer timings for O&D traffic for sure.

I believe the YWG flight was originally 12x weekly too, but as Dominion301 noted above it's now 13x weekly, with second flight ops x6. I also see YYC is up to double daily (originally was 13x weekly - second flight was x6).

PD297 YOW 0845 1250 YYT x256
PD298 YYT 1345 1518 YOW x256

So YWG morning flight added day 2, YYT flight added days 1347, YLW added day 5, and YYC added day 6 accounts for another fin's worth of flying.

The new outbound to YYT has very little inbound traffic to connect to, but here’s what’s available as things currently stand:

From: YVR (day 1 only thanks to the redeye being only 4x weekly) and YYZ, that’s it for 1-stops, but it can also do double connects from YVR, YEG & YYC.

For the inbound from YYT, it can connect to YFC, YYZ, YTZ, YWG, YEG & YVR (days 147) and a double connection to EWR, YQT, YYC, YLW & YYJ.

Also, for the new YDF, on some days double connections to/from YXE are possible.

The new YYT flight highlights how if PD had more DH4 flights with twice daily each from YXU, YKF & YHM, they’d be able to arrive early enough to feed this new YYT flight (as would bringing back an 0700 YTZ departure). It would also help to have red eyes from YEG, YYC and YVR (and maybe even YYJ too if traffic were ever to build enough beyond daily in summer). It’ll be interesting to see if this new 4x weekly can sustain itself on largely O&D.

Today’s departure count: 93 - could tie the record today

Sun flights count (both transborder & international): 16

Today's cancellation count (so far): 1 - WS to SNU is not currently showing as cancelled but if this operates to collect the last of the rescues, I can’t imagine the outbound will truly carry any pax

[RomanR27]

Tonight's AC889 was 12/21 PY and 11/20 J. AC888 on the other hand was full in all cabins except two J seats.

[Dominion301]

Today’s departure count: 82

Sun flights count (both transborder & international): 17

Today's cancellation count (so far): 4 - one of which is WS to CCC that’s showing up as not cancelled on the FIDS

[fanofYOW]

Would anyone have any insight on what TS is trying to do in YOW? To me it looks like they are testing the TATL market with a safe LGW run with only a small number of connections from YTZ, YEG, YYC, and YWG. If successful, the plan will be more EU destinations in 2027? This is my hope.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by fanofYOW

Would anyone have any insight on what TS is trying to do in YOW? To me it looks like they are testing the TATL market with a safe LGW run with only a small number of connections from YTZ, YEG, YYC, and YWG. If successful, the plan will be more EU destinations in 2027? This is my hope.

Testing the market certainly seems to be the case. Assuming it’s a success, hopefully they try to copy here what WS are doing at YHZ…or at the very least YYT.

Today’s departure count: 79 - including AC 490 to YUL, but it’s a 320 FIN 419 - what days will the 788 be rotating on to/from YUL?

Sun flights count (both transborder & international): 11

Today's cancellation count (so far): 8 - including PD to PVR and an assumed WS cancellation to VRA. Turns out PVR is currently closed (I’m assuming due to cartel related violence)

[RomanR27]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

Testing the market certainly seems to be the case. Assuming it’s a success, hopefully they try to copy here what WS are doing at YHZ…or at the very least YYT.

Today’s departure count: 79 - including AC 490 to YUL, but it’s a 320 FIN 419 - what days will the 788 be rotating on to/from YUL?

Sun flights count (both transborder & international): 11

Today's cancellation count (so far): 8 - including PD to PVR and an assumed WS cancellation to VRA. Turns out PVR is currently closed (I’m assuming due to cartel related violence)

Today was supposed to be a day the 788 was rotating to YUL but AC889 was cancelled. There is no AC888 scheduled tonight. I believe this coming Friday and Sunday see the aircraft rotate through YUL (both ways -- tonight would have just been a YOW-YUL turn).

[MountainView]

This morning's red-eye AC341 and the turn back to YVR as AC348 were on a B789.

[RomanR27]

Originally Posted by MountainView

This morning's red-eye AC341 and the turn back to YVR as AC348 were on a B789.

Yeah, I saw AC341 this morning was full in both J (30 seats) and PY (21 seats). Still is surprising to see the drop in YVR capacity this summer. Even in the winter, seems underserved.

[RomanR27]

Inspired by MountainView, I compiled the PD schedule for the whole week in the peak summer. You can see how some things correspond - the CUN/MCO morning departures on days 256 with the YYT morning flight x256, the FLL days 16 with the YLW/YWG x1/x6. The main gaps at this point are the extra YYT flight arrives at 1518 and doesn't have anything to turn to (ditto the CUN flight on day 2), and still the gap with the YVR evening departure not running days 236 - really with the AC and WS departures they should bring this back, or it's a good timing if they wanted to increase YYJ with an evening departure or a red-eye return.

[Dominion301]

Lots of cancellations today. Mostly to the US NE and Maritimes thanks to the big nor’easter.

Today’s departure count: 73

Sun flights count (both transborder & international): 13

Today's cancellation count (so far): 14

[MountainView]

@RomanR27

Super cool - thanks for putting that together.

One thing I am wondering, is with Porter's maintenance being here, if that is why certain planes don't see a turn as you point out. They could be going for a check, etc. (whatever the technical terms are).

Pure example, but C-GKYS on Feb 17 flew PHX-YOW (landing 21:30), went to the hangar, and then flew YOW-YYC on Feb 18 at 18:55.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by MountainView

@RomanR27

Super cool - thanks for putting that together.

One thing I am wondering, is with Porter's maintenance being here, if that is why certain planes don't see a turn as you point out. They could be going for a check, etc. (whatever the technical terms are).

Pure example, but C-GKYS on Feb 17 flew PHX-YOW (landing 21:30), went to the hangar, and then flew YOW-YYC on Feb 18 at 18:55.

Maintenance is a possibility, but you'd think they'd still schedule regular turns within 90 minutes during the daytime and just tow aircraft to/from the hangar as needed.

Today’s departure count: 78 - including an extra PD to YHZ this morning to make up for all the cancellations yesterday

Sun flights count (both transborder & international): 12

Today's cancellation count (so far): 6 - including WS to HOG - the government confirmed that the last Cuba rescue flights were on the weekend, so after this any Cuba departures showing up on the FIDS, I simply won't count.

[RomanR27]

Speaking of Cuba, looks like Sunwing/WS have added a second CUN flight on Thursday to replace one of the Cuba flights. That's the only additional flight I can see, so that's still -7 net weekly frequencies overall compared to the original WS sun schedule.

PD is resuming YOW-PVR today as well, in line with most other Canadian airlines.

[Dominion301]

Today’s departure count: 79

Sun flights count (both transborder & international): 11

Today's cancellation count (so far): 2 - including PD to PVR

AC 345's delayed 2 hours tonight and strangely enough it and AC 888 are both assigned gate 28 on a day when AF doesn't even operate.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by RomanR27

Inspired by MountainView, I compiled the PD schedule for the whole week in the peak summer. You can see how some things correspond - the CUN/MCO morning departures on days 256 with the YYT morning flight x256, the FLL days 16 with the YLW/YWG x1/x6. The main gaps at this point are the extra YYT flight arrives at 1518 and doesn't have anything to turn to (ditto the CUN flight on day 2), and still the gap with the YVR evening departure not running days 236 - really with the AC and WS departures they should bring this back, or it's a good timing if they wanted to increase YYJ with an evening departure or a red-eye return.

Ah one of the YYZs is X36 and not just X6. That means instead of -60 seats/week, PD are currently an estimated -324 seats/week vs summer 2025.

[RomanR27]

Today's AC889 was 13/19 J and 19/21 PY and AC888 this evening is 15/20 J and 17/21 PY.

I noticed that WS has removed the Monday YEG flight in March, leaving only a weekly Friday flight. April is still 2x weekly.

[Dominion301]

I’m no longer counting Cuba cancellations in the counts.

Today’s departure count: 86

Sun flights count (both transborder & international): 14

Today's cancellation count (so far): 4

[Dominion301]

For those that use AF and collect Flying Blue points a hugely positive change is coming in May as both flying and non-flying points earned will be treated equally with the same two year reset period.

https://onemileatatime.com/news/air-...ration-policy/