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Old Posted May 23, 2025, 12:32 PM
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Jim Reynolds shared that Pritzker and Preckwinkle were luring the Bears to Michael Reese by offering $400 million for infrastructure improvements. No idea why the Bears rejected the offer, especially since AH won't offer them any funding

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Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle and Gov. JB Pritzker had been speaking with Chicago Bears management and business leaders, including Reynolds and Quintin Primo, CEO of Capri Capital Partners, in an effort to get the team to reconsider the long-vacant Michael Reese site on the city’s Near South Side, Crain’s reported last week.

The talks included discussion of $400 million in public infrastructure spending to prepare the site for a stadium surrounded by a mixed use development, but the Bears balked, instead informing local leaders they were focused on building a stadium in Arlington Heights on their $197 million property at the 326-acre shuttered Arlington International Racecourse.
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/politics/jim-reynolds-talks-plan-tackle-chicagos-1b-gap
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Old Posted May 23, 2025, 3:37 PM
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Stuff like this cements my lack of trust in that organization, because the Bears are clearly run by inbred idiots.
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Stuff like this cements my lack of trust in that organization, because the Bears are clearly run by inbred idiots.
One has to wonder if they are trying to get more concessions from Pritzker/Preckwinkle by continuing the play the AH hand ... or if are they truly that stupid?
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Old Posted May 24, 2025, 4:42 PM
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Not sure it's obvious or not but throwing a half billion dollars of free money towards the site is indicative of the sites appeal. It's a questionable site and the city/state know it. McCaskey's probably don't want another Comiskey.

In my best Jagger voice: "Tracks on the east side, bed bugs next door..."
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Old Posted May 25, 2025, 7:21 PM
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Not sure it's obvious or not but throwing a half billion dollars of free money towards the site is indicative of the sites appeal. It's a questionable site and the city/state know it. McCaskey's probably don't want another Comiskey.

In my best Jagger voice: "Tracks on the east side, bed bugs next door..."
I get it... trying to be clever^ with the "bed bugs" thing. I would rather chalk that up to a somewhat ill advised attempt to be clever, as opposed to you stereotyping the people who live in that community. I write this with the caveat that I travel a lot and have been away from Chicago on work, so I may have missed news regarding a bed bug infestation of sorts, but short of that, I will just chalk it up to an attempt at being clever with nothing nefarious lying underneath. Why is this a bit of a sensitive area for me?

I know quite a few the people who live in that area.... and every time I have visited with them, I have never seen a bed bug in sight. Does not mean that just because I have never personally seen them, that there aren't some... but if you search hard enough, you can find a person or two who has that going on in just about every area of the city. Moreover, if such an infestation does exist, that should not, by definition, be a mark against their character as your remark intimates.

I own a home in area code 60615 - which is a stones throw to the South of 60616 - the area code for Michael Reese. Almost 10% of the households in 60615 make over $200,000 per year - with many making substantially more than that/there are mansions in the area/some U of C professors and administrators own homes there, etc. The average household income for 60615 is estimated at just under $100,000. Directly abutting 60616 to the north lies 60605 where just over 24% of the household make $200,000 per year and the average household income is $154,000 per year.

Why am I saying that? This is no wasteland. There are upwardly mobile people and well established people and communities all within close to fairly close reach. Then you have the poor/working poor in some parts of that area too. Its called "city living" - with some in 60616/60653 - it comes with city life. There is no large city in the world that does not have some poorer communities. But here again, this does not have to be seen as a negative. We have to move away from this notion that wealth means "good character" - if nothing else, the times we currently live in should dispel that notion on an almost daily basis.

I know solid people that live in 60616, people of great character who work hard every day and take good care of the home or apartment that they have. And keep in mind that the Prairie Shores development, etc. is close to MR site - filled with young professionals who recently graduated from college who are working their way up in the word... also housing middle to older citizens who are hard working and law abiding. This area, by definition, presents nothing to fear. It just needs more opportunity -- that is where the incentive money that the state may be offering comes into play -- to help bridge gaps in perception and in reality (infrastructure) with respect to many of the drawbacks that the site offers.

On the subject of wealth - South Loop, Motor Row, Hyde Park, Obama Center, Bronzeville - lots of change is going on in these areas - with most of it being positive. Certainly the Obama Center is proving to be quite a catalyst for that area. There is wealth already there as I have pointed out... and these areas are primed to attract more wealth with another catalyst joining the mix such as Bears or White Sox stadium.

I agree this site is not as prime as where the Bears' home currently sits... or the site they were proposing (parking lot) if they were to build in Chicago. Those sites are already pretty much built out around the location and give the impression of being directly adjacent to the lake... including being closer to the heart of downtown Chicago -- all of which present a tough act to follow. But here again, that is where the substantial incentive money is designed to bridge these gaps and make this a much more viable option.

If built out at MR, the decking over of LSD would be a huge boon for the stadium and that area. It would also help bring the lake closer to the fans and the action. It is quite nice. But if I were a betting man, I would wager they move to AH. That having been said, longshot though it may be, don't sleep all the way on MR - particularly with that bucket of cash the state may be throwing at this.
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I think everyone needs a friendly reminder that the Bears do not have the taxpayers in mind during any of these negotiations. If you think the Bears are thinking about how a shiny new stadium will lift up the city and immediate neighborhood it resides in - I have a nice plot of land in Arlington Heights to sell you......
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Old Posted May 25, 2025, 10:29 PM
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I think everyone needs a friendly reminder that the Bears do not have the taxpayers in mind during any of these negotiations. If you think the Bears are thinking about how a shiny new stadium will lift up the city and immediate neighborhood it resides in - I have a nice plot of land in Arlington Heights to sell you......
I get it... it seems you may be a bit emotional on this subject. I could tell by how quickly you fired off this response to my post. Most telling of all is I could tell from your previous posts how badly you want this thing in AH. But lets dissect what you wrote... and juxtapose it with what I wrote.... where did I ever mention that the Bears care about how a new stadium will lift up the city and the neighborhood it resides in??

Not one time.

Writing that a stadium will help an area versus saying that the Bears want to help an area... are two entirely different things.


And oh yeah, regarding the edit that I made to the post you responded to.... I merely added the words "longshot though it may be". Other than that minor edit, that post remains unchanged. I am a fairly decent lawyer... not the best but I do alright... being foolish enough to speak for the Bears is something I would NEVER do.

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Old Posted May 25, 2025, 11:21 PM
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I get it... it seems you may be a bit emotional on this subject. I could tell by how quickly you fired off this response to my post. Most telling of all is I could tell from your previous posts how badly you want this thing in AH.
Nope - At this point, I could give a crap where they build the stadium. It won't change the fact they still haven't won a Superbowl since I was conceived.

I would love nothing more than the Bears to stay along the Lake in the city and build a big beautiful new stadium that has massive infrastructure tying it into a sexy mega development.

But I don't expect that because what I would like the Bears to do and what the Bears see as priority are two different things. This is why I'm keeping my expectations super low here.
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Bears President mentioned in press confrence today that they plan on breaking ground in Arlington Heights before end of this year!
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If that means the Bears are self-financing it, then that's marvelous news!

They can build the fucking thing on the dark side of the moon for all I care, just no more public handouts to these multi-billion dollar sports teams.
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Bears President mentioned in press confrence today that they plan on breaking ground in Arlington Heights before end of this year!
I'm skeptical. They are going to get the legislature to agree on public financing of infrastructure AND start the construction schedule in the dead of winter?

My guess is they're finalizing design and infrastructure plans now while locking down material cost and contract bids. My guess is an early spring groundbreaking. We'll see.
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I mean..... I am even more skeptical considering for the mayor of AH, this was news...

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Arlington Heights Mayor Jim Tinaglia said he was not aware of Friday’s announcement made by Warren, but said his office feels the same way about moving forward.
https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/bear...-forward-this-year-in-arlington-heights/

So the mayor is just finding out about this and it's a done deal? Sure.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2025, 12:54 PM
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This is so fing annoying. Just go away to some cheap POS AH stadium already and stop bothering us. No, you are not getting state money either way.
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I'm skeptical. They are going to get the legislature to agree on public financing of infrastructure AND start the construction schedule in the dead of winter?
What infrastructure exactly? All the Hwy 53 interchanges are being rebuilt right now, new stadium or no. The Arlington Park Metra station already exists.

If utilities inside the site need to be relocated, that's private infrastructure, not public.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2025, 6:15 PM
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What infrastructure exactly? All the Hwy 53 interchanges are being rebuilt right now, new stadium or no. The Arlington Park Metra station already exists.

If utilities inside the site need to be relocated, that's private infrastructure, not public.
Street network. Street lighting. Utility relocation to fit the new grid away from the stadium etc.

Perhaps the Bears SHOULD pay for all of that, but we know they won't. Needless to say that they will likely just be expected to pay only for the confines of the stadium itself.
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https://patch.com/illinois/arlingtonheig...-arlington-park-plan-could-take-10-years

No, they shouldn't.
What Arlington Heights chooses to do with their side of the property is their business, they can fund it how they see fit, has nothing to do with the Bears.
Cities zone land, lay out street grids, run utilities. In return they collect ever increasing property taxes till the end of time.

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I was listening to one of the reporters on this, and they believe this is a ploy to make the city of Chicago build the stadium on the lakefront.
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Could be. Johnson has not made it a secret that he is willing to have the city fund the Bears stadium, despite the city's dire financial straits. He isn't exactly the best with money matters however. Hopefully there is enough opposition in City Hall to keep him from handing the Bears org a blank check.

Frankly I am ready for them to go. Bears have been an absolutely awful team for almost the entirety of my life. The only reason I watch football anymore is for my fantasy leagues
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